This won’t hurt a bit, says Veeam, as it flags end of socket-based licensing
(2021/09/27)
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2021/09/27/veeam_to_end_socket_based_licenses/
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Backup vendor Veeam is almost certainly going to ditch per-socket licensing.
Senior veep for product management Anton Gostev has floated the idea for months in user forums, but last week [1]revealed that the change is now all-but a fait accompli .
"All in all, it is looking like Veeam will in the end go ahead and stop selling Socket-based licenses sometime next year, just as I expected."
[2]
As [3]recently reported on our sibling site Blocks and Files , previous speculation about the change has not been well-received by Veeam customers.
[4]
[5]
Gostev's post therefore tries to quell discontent, stating that existing socket-based licenses will remain valid, and owners can renew them – even for "future product versions".
Nor will customers be forced to migrate. "The upgrades to VUL will be driven using [a] 'carrot' (incentives) versus 'stick' (end of life) approach," he wrote.
[6]
The vendor's preferred "Veeam Universal License" (VUL) will be sold as both a subscription and a perpetual license, "because in some markets customers only have the option to purchase on perpetual contracts".
Veeam already offers the VUL – a per-workload license that can be applied on-prem or in the cloud, for apps or servers, and is portable.
Gostev suggests the VUL reflects how IT runs these days, and that socket-based licenses "cannot be used for the majority of workloads Veeam can protect these days".
[7]
"Since I like analogies: there's no point to keep selling gas that allows cars to drive on certain types of roads only," his post explains.
[8]Back up a minute: Private equity outfit coughs $5bn for Veeam
[9]'This repository is private' – so what's it doing on the public internet, GE Aviation?
[10]The eyeopening multi-billion-dollar merry-go-round of Insight Partners, Veeam – and their one-time beau N2WS
He may have a point: cloudy workloads are not tied to the concept of server sockets, and a great many organisations now operate in hybrid clouds. Veeam may therefore escape the kind of user anger that followed, for example, [11]VMware's inflationary decision to tweak licensing on terms that meant prices rise with CPU core counts, rather than the number of physical CPUs present in a machine.
That change was made in response to hardware vendors, especially Lenovo, pointing out that a single-socket server with a 64-core AMD EPYC CPU could run an awful lot of virtual machines at lower license fees than a machine with a pair of 32-core CPUs. ®
Get our [12]Tech Resources
[1] https://forums.veeam.com/veeam-backup-replication-f2/phasing-out-our-socket-based-licensing-t74168-60.html#p429213
[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YVGWaS@6JdVNWur3xNAizAAAAAE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
[3] https://blocksandfiles.com/2021/09/13/socket-to-me-veeam-instance-license-confusion/
[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YVGWaS@6JdVNWur3xNAizAAAAAE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
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[8] https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/09/insight_partners_gobbles_veeam_for_5bn/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2019/07/09/ge_aviation_jenkins_dns_snafu/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/15/veeam_n2ws_insight_partners/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2020/02/04/vmware/
[12] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Senior veep for product management Anton Gostev has floated the idea for months in user forums, but last week [1]revealed that the change is now all-but a fait accompli .
"All in all, it is looking like Veeam will in the end go ahead and stop selling Socket-based licenses sometime next year, just as I expected."
[2]
As [3]recently reported on our sibling site Blocks and Files , previous speculation about the change has not been well-received by Veeam customers.
[4]
[5]
Gostev's post therefore tries to quell discontent, stating that existing socket-based licenses will remain valid, and owners can renew them – even for "future product versions".
Nor will customers be forced to migrate. "The upgrades to VUL will be driven using [a] 'carrot' (incentives) versus 'stick' (end of life) approach," he wrote.
[6]
The vendor's preferred "Veeam Universal License" (VUL) will be sold as both a subscription and a perpetual license, "because in some markets customers only have the option to purchase on perpetual contracts".
Veeam already offers the VUL – a per-workload license that can be applied on-prem or in the cloud, for apps or servers, and is portable.
Gostev suggests the VUL reflects how IT runs these days, and that socket-based licenses "cannot be used for the majority of workloads Veeam can protect these days".
[7]
"Since I like analogies: there's no point to keep selling gas that allows cars to drive on certain types of roads only," his post explains.
[8]Back up a minute: Private equity outfit coughs $5bn for Veeam
[9]'This repository is private' – so what's it doing on the public internet, GE Aviation?
[10]The eyeopening multi-billion-dollar merry-go-round of Insight Partners, Veeam – and their one-time beau N2WS
He may have a point: cloudy workloads are not tied to the concept of server sockets, and a great many organisations now operate in hybrid clouds. Veeam may therefore escape the kind of user anger that followed, for example, [11]VMware's inflationary decision to tweak licensing on terms that meant prices rise with CPU core counts, rather than the number of physical CPUs present in a machine.
That change was made in response to hardware vendors, especially Lenovo, pointing out that a single-socket server with a 64-core AMD EPYC CPU could run an awful lot of virtual machines at lower license fees than a machine with a pair of 32-core CPUs. ®
Get our [12]Tech Resources
[1] https://forums.veeam.com/veeam-backup-replication-f2/phasing-out-our-socket-based-licensing-t74168-60.html#p429213
[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YVGWaS@6JdVNWur3xNAizAAAAAE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
[3] https://blocksandfiles.com/2021/09/13/socket-to-me-veeam-instance-license-confusion/
[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YVGWaS@6JdVNWur3xNAizAAAAAE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
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[8] https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/09/insight_partners_gobbles_veeam_for_5bn/
[9] https://www.theregister.com/2019/07/09/ge_aviation_jenkins_dns_snafu/
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/15/veeam_n2ws_insight_partners/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2020/02/04/vmware/
[12] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Convenience
Mixedbag
Let's hope that they have changed their approach to converting to per VM licencing.
They tried to get us to convert about 2 years ago but wanted somewhere in excess of £1000 per socket as a 'convenience fee'
VUL + VA = ???