If you're Intel, self-driving cars look an awful lot like PCs
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The segments of premium and mid-range cars will need extra compute and over-the-air update capabilities to enable increasing levels of autonomous driving, said Erez Dagan, executive vice president at Mobileye, Intel's self-driving car system division, speaking at the Evercore ISI Autotech & AI Forum this week.
On the other hand, low-end vehicles will have basic equipment, sensors, and features as mandated or incentivized by regulations like the EU's General Safety Regulation, which focuses on improving driver safety.
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"You don't need to have a strong computer or upgradable computer on a vehicle where you know the likelihood of over-the-air updates is very low," Dagan said, responding to a question about how he conceived future architectures for cars.
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It's no surprise that more expensive products will get more features than less expensive alternatives; what is interesting to consider, which many not have, is a future in which autonomous vehicles on the road will have varying levels of abilities. Like PCs and smartphones, self-driving cars won't all be created equal.
Dagan was addressing how the autonomous vehicle market was developing, and not specific products the microprocessor giant will deliver. Intel, NXP, and others are actively talking about next-generation car architectures for autonomous driving, which are set to feature high-speed connectivity, advanced cameras and sensors, a reliance on cloud services, and so on.
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Components will be more integrated in the premium cars, though Dagan couldn't directly comment on whether Mobileye or automakers using the company's tech will deliver the over-the-air updates.
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Mobileye has a dual system – one based on cameras, and the other based on depth sensors like radars and lidar – to enable autonomous driving. It is also using Intel's silicon photonics and radio frequency intellectual property to develop sensors and camera systems. The company is also building a cloud-based mapping system based on information provided by cars equipped with its cameras.
Intel last month [9]announced a partnership with Sixt to launch an autonomous taxi in Munich next year.
And speaking of cloud-connected cars, Arm this month unveiled [10]SOAFEE – that's Scalable Open Architecture for the Embedded Edge – which developers can use, for instance, to build backend services and software update mechanisms, and integrate them with applications and firmware running on vehicles. ®
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Trickle-down effect?
The regulatory system will also have to specify how long manufacturers support software updates. If the support lifetime resembles that of most Android phones then the autonomous capability will be useless, dangerous or both within five years. It also needs to regulated what happens once updates cease so that it's impossible to drive the vehicle in autonomous mode.
Re: Trickle-down effect?
Frankly, autonomous vehicles need to be built with lifetime updates in mind. Not necessarily for new features, but certainly for updates to core function.
Anything less, and the autonomous functions will degrade to the point of uselessness and/or danger, and I would strongly foresee lawsuits being bought against the manufacturers that let their vehicles get into that state.
Re: Trickle-down effect?
Unless we all, except from those who can afford not to, move to subscription-based cars and using them like taxis, instead of being something personal.
Re: Trickle-down effect?
Although that seems like a good idea and it would reduce the scourge of on-street car storage, er, parking, it would dramatically increase the miles driven.
Instead of driving your own car A --> B then B--> A, it will be
Depot--A--B--A--Depot,
or even D--A--B--D--B--A--D.
Granted sometimes it might go D--A--B--E--F--E--G--H--D, but not every time and hardly ever in rural areas.
Re: Trickle-down effect?
I prefer D-A-D-G-A-D tuning for folky blues guitar. :-)
I don't see how this is going to be very different to today. All cars must meet a minimum standard defined by the regulations, such as crash safety, lighting, performance (the UK MOT test checks this) etc. And if you pay more, you get more: better brakes, better lights, more airbags and so on.
If cars become more like PCs, then I just hope it doesn't mean my car will need continual hardware updates and memory increases to carry on working whenever I install a now OS, I mean, whenever I drive along a new road.
In the future car brands will be competing
with creating high priority CVE's, since any publicity is better than none.
"cheaper self-driving cars getting the bare minimum"
As long as it is clear that the bare minimum is being able to arrive at one's destination without plowing through a tree, another vehicle, a cyclist or a pedestrian, then I'm fine with that.
If, however, your "bare minimum" includes a monthly subscription to avoid baby strollers, you can fuck right off.
There is no bare minimum in autonomous vehicles. Either it does the job perfectly, or it is useless.
Strippers are a bonus. Millionnairs can pay for that. The rest of us just need it to work.
Re: "cheaper self-driving cars getting the bare minimum"
No it's simply Intel's business model.
If you have a 3series BMW you need an I3, if you have a more powerful 5 series it has an I5 and a 7 series needs an I7. If you use your car for business it needs a Xeon
Re: "cheaper self-driving cars getting the bare minimum"
>There is no bare minimum in autonomous vehicles. Either it does the job perfectly, or it is useless.
The bare minimum for current modern cars is ABS, stability control, 87 airbags, automatic braking, lane departure warning, blind spot warning - we don't ban all older cars that don't have this.
Do you have to press the 'Start' button
to stop the car?
Re: Do you have to press the 'Start' button
I already do, and my car is 6 years old and has none of this fancy autonomous stuff.
Fuck it. I'm buying a peddle car.
No electronics of any kind, no fossil fuel, no batteries, no IOT shit, just a reconfigured bicycle with a bench seat & a metal shell around me. I'll get one that resembles a fire truck, I always liked fire trucks. Bonus if it includes the loud clangy bell to ring while I shout at people to get out of my way...
Re: Fuck it. I'm buying a peddle car.
A neighbour just got one of those Japanese micro fire-trucks.
It's red and has the Japanese fire service writing on it - he just had to remove the flashing lights and the word FIRE (in English) to make it legal
I assume the added value will have nothing to do with safety and function regarding traffic and driving laws and regulations.
There needs to be a thorough and well regulated set of standards that will apply to all self driving/autonomous vehicles, any superfluous bits beyond those will be for the status driven.