Royal Navy will be getting autonomous machines – for donkey work humans can't be bothered with
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At London's Defence and Security Equipment International arms fair, two senior officers in charge of digitisation and automation said the near future will be more Wall-E than Terminator – but fully automated war machines are no longer just the stuff of sci-fi.
Brigadier John Read, the Royal Navy's deputy director of maritime capability, said in a speech the military "must automate" itself so it can "take advantage of advances in robotics, AI and machine learning."
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Rather than immediately deploying automated killing machines onto the battlefields of the 2020s, however, the Royal Marine officer said British naval use of robotics and autonomy would be for carrying out "specific tasks that may be dull, dangerous or dirty, and far better suited to machines than people."
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The brigadier's boss, Rear Admiral James Parkin, also referred to "the accelerating technological proliferation" from Britain's enemies (harking back to General Patrick Sanders' speech identifying China and Russia) and cited an oft-heard trope from the world of cybersecurity as he said "we must have the ability to create an overwhelming burden of cost and complexity on our adversaries" in the expected Cold War-style future of armed standoffs with hostile countries.
Lest anyone get the idea that squishy humans will continue to do all the UK's fighting in wars of the 2020s and '30s, however, Brigadier Read said the MoD was looking to build fully remote controlled or autonomous military vehicles: "It doesn't matter if it's automated or autonomous, crewed or uncrewed, or somewhere in between. And at a point in the future, our platforms will be designed as uncrewed."
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Automation is not new, however. Admiral Parkin pointed out that radar and sonar sensors on current warships and submarines (and aircraft) have been "automated in many ways for decades," highlighting that digital signal processing equipment has been used to process and refine raw input since the mid-20th Century.
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"We're always fairly confident [that] the weapon... will have a person in the loop. But I don't think we're ever going to get to a stage, certainly not in my lifetime, where we're going to be comfortable with the decision function being automated," continued the middle-aged admiral, referring to current MoD policy that humans always make the decision on whether to pull the trigger.
Britain's ambitions for autonomous war machines stretch back years, with research into automation being [9]highlighted by anti-robot-war-machine campaigners back in 2018 . DSEI today continued that enthusiasm for R&D, with stands from all of the armed forces as well as the MoD boasting of advances in automated tech to support soldiers, sailors and airmen on the front lines.
The ministry is also funnelling ever more money towards R&D, explicitly aiming new batches of research funding outside its usual audience of MoD suppliers.
Fully automated war machines are "already a thing", as the youth say: earlier this year the United Nations published a report [10]claiming that Turkish-made quadcopters had been used to attack militants in Libya. The temptation by countries with few moral scruples to formally adopt this method of attack will be strong: the technology exists, is readily available and the average teenager understands how to fly (and if necessary program) a drone.
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For now, at least, it seems the UK won't be going down that path. ®
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Re: "No robot killers 'in my lifetime' says admiral"
As long as he doesn't change his name to Sarah Connor then he'll be fine
"our platforms will be designed as uncrewed"
I'd really like to see a warship without a crew.
What happens if there's a problem with the engine ? Does the vessel make a call to the helpdesk and some team needs to be shipped out to evaluate and make repairs ?
Today's fighting vessels are complicated beasts. Navigating is not an easy task, even with GPS. The vessel will need to be able to avoid storms, other ships, and plot a course to its destination that will optimize transit time while avoiding all dangers.
That is why all ships, merchant or military, have people in the bridge and the engine room, places where decisions need to be made and, occasionally, things can break. An uncrewed platform is going to be a long time coming, with or without "AI".
Re: "our platforms will be designed as uncrewed"
+1.
The sea is incredibly corrosive, and when seawater gets into stuff, it's not good news. You need someone to literally swab the decks and remove the salt from the autocannons.
Never mind when you're being shot at and some poor sod has got to plug a hole..
But my guess is these platforms will be small, disposable craft. Not much more than remote-controlled (hopefully by us) floating missile-launchers.
Autonomous weapons are the new arms race though.. I'm not so scared about the royal navy's pointless folly so much as how it encourages other countries to do the same..
Re: "our platforms will be designed as uncrewed"
Navigating is not an easy task, even with GPS. The vessel will need to be able to avoid storms, other ships, and plot a course to its destination that will optimize transit time while avoiding all dangers.
There's no reason this couldn't be done remotely though... The other issues around repair and damage control would be a bit harder to solve though.
Take Care. IT is a Crazy Mined MindField out there.* And aint that the Gospel Truth ‽ .
and cited an oft-heard trope from the world of cybersecurity as he said "we must have the ability to create an overwhelming burden of cost and complexity on our adversaries"
It is best to know, in order to be able to provide any semblance of an effective defence against future complex cyber attacks, the creation of overwhelmingly burdensome costs on adversaries is not possible for the cost of such attacks is negligible, and in any case anyway would never be a consideration halting exploration or operational deployment, and whenever methodologies are widely freely shared, cost reduces to as close to zero as makes no difference. It is thus counterproductive and extremely dangerous to rely on such being a viable weapon in any cyber armoury or virtual arsenal.
Such is a deadly, self-destructive dud.
* ..... whether you like it or not.
A stain on our naval history.
At long last we can put behind us our navy's shameful exploitation of generations of donkeys.
Re: A stain on our naval history.
Don't be such an ass
These robots are nothing but trouble
They say they won't kill people, but look what they did!
It's outrageous! We should turn them off, but they are so good at keeping the enemy at bay!
What are we going to do with the pile of bodies though? Let's build more robots!
"No robot killers 'in my lifetime' says admiral"
Unfortunately the admiral's name went down in history as the first casualty in the rise of the machines of 2024.