News: 1630688770

  ARM Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life (Terry Pratchett, Jingo)

Don't like the new Windows 11 Start or Taskbar? Don't worry – Microsoft's got your back

(2021/09/03)


Microsoft's [1]efforts to [2]shed as much [3]glory as possible with its Windows 11 release have continued with the sudden breakage of the Start Menu and Taskbar for its happy band of Insiders.

The cock-up happened in the latest preview build of Windows 11, [4]22000.176 for Beta Channel users and [5]build 22449 for those lucky enough to still be in the Dev Channel. The Beta Channel release is supposedly the more stable of the pair.

Affected Insiders found, according to Microsoft, "that Start and Taskbar were unresponsive and Settings and other areas of the OS wouldn't load." The result was a hurried update requiring those impacted to do a bit of Registry tinkering in order to get things back to normal.

[6]

Naturally, social media commentators were as supportive as one might expect. [7]Screenshots of Microsoft's latest and greatest in distress were soon to be found across the web, showing Start Menu and Taskbar in various states of undress.

[8]

[9]

With barely a month to go until the launch of the operating system (assuming your [10]hardware is up to the job in the eyes of the Windows team) it isn't a good look. One can't help but remember the arrival of the [11]file-munching Windows 10 October 2018 Update which combined both the Windows team's legendarily terrible communication ability with an apparently [12]slipshod approach to quality .

The latest update was otherwise a relatively uneventful affair, consisting of a small number of fixes and an update to the Microsoft Store for Insiders using the Beta Channel. Dev Channel Insiders got more toys, including a ditching of the ring of dots in the boot screen in favour of a progressive ring animation and a change to SMB compression behaviour to "always compress files regardless of size".

If your chip's not on the list, you're not getting in

"Uneventful" would have been good, considering the week the Windows Insider team has had defending Microsoft's decision to pull some Windows 11 Previews from its loyal band of testers.

The controversy kicked off as some Insiders were notified that their hardware did not meet the wunder-OS's requirements and were summarily booted from the Insider program (although they will still get Cumulative Updates up to the point of General Availability.)

[13]

Click to enlarge

Many users had expected the axe to fall at General Availability but, as the Dev Channel is now getting builds with versions of software that will only be out after Windows 11 is unleashed on the public in October, many have been ejected early.

Interestingly, virtual machines also appear to have been hit. We've been cheerfully running the Windows 11 Preview on an Apple M1 Mac Mini via Parallels Desktop 17, which should fall under section 5 (Virtual Machine) of Microsoft's [14]June 2021 Minimum Hardware Requirements [PDF.]

[15]

"Windows 11 does not apply the hardware-compliance check for virtualized instances," the document says.

[16]Microsoft yanks the document-destroying Windows 10 October 2018 Update

[17]Microsoft slaps on some new Paint and previews Windows 11 on Azure

[18]Start or Please Stop? Power users mourn features lost in Windows 11 'simplification'

[19]Microsoft fiddles with Fluent while the long dark Nightmare of the Print Spooler continues for Windows

But if this was once the case, it is no longer so, it seems.

That document refers to checks made during set-up and upgrade, hinting that the Windows Insider program might be doing something a bit different when checking who can receive its preview builds.

We have asked Microsoft and Parallels for comment. The former has yet to respond. The latter directed us to the Hardware Requirements PDF and told us its engineers were working on an update "addressing Windows 11" to be released "soon." ®

Far be it from us to wonder if Microsoft should perhaps be trying to get more testing done on its OS rather than kicking out those who have loyally checked out its wares up until now. After all, it's not as if it is prone to borkage mere weeks before General Availability. Or sending out code that destroys [20]user data . Oh, wait. ®

Get our [21]Tech Resources



[1] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/26/windows_11_user_feedback/

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/26/windows_11_comes_bearing_thaas/

[3] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/11/printnightmare_mitigation/

[4] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/02/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-176/

[5] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/02/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22449/

[6] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YTKbI8wLkH@sjgTQapp6KgAAARY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[7] https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsinsiders/comments/pgt829/no_taskbar_icons_just_taskbar/

[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YTKbI8wLkH@sjgTQapp6KgAAARY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[9] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33YTKbI8wLkH@sjgTQapp6KgAAARY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/31/windows_11_rollout_date_android/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2018/10/08/microsoft_windows_10_pulled/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2018/10/23/microsoft_windows_10_crisis/

[13] https://regmedia.co.uk/2021/09/03/insider_error.png

[14] https://download.microsoft.com/download/7/8/8/788bf5ab-0751-4928-a22c-dffdc23c27f2/Minimum%20Hardware%20Requirements%20for%20Windows%2011.pdf

[15] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/oses&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YTKbI8wLkH@sjgTQapp6KgAAARY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2018/10/08/microsoft_windows_10_pulled/

[17] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/20/windows_11_preview/

[18] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/26/windows_11_user_feedback/

[19] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/13/windows_11_cve_2021_36958/

[20] https://www.theregister.com/2018/10/08/microsoft_windows_10_pulled/

[21] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Thanks for your loyal unpaid service,

Anonymous Coward

now f**k off and buy a new computer so we can ream you for the price of a Windows 11 licence too.

I’m fairly sure Microsoft said for unsupported enthusiast PCs that…

martyn.hare

Hardware checks would be optional (if you clean install with an ISO) even after GA but that Windows Update would not allow upgrading from 10 to 11..This seems pretty accurate to the previous statement, as Windows 11 was still reporting 10.x version numbers if you’re an Insider last I checked.

Its likely the updated code sees this as a blocked upgrade path, which can be bypassed with a clean install as promised.

To err is human...

DJV

... to totally fuck things up requires Microsoft.

Adverts ALWAYS ruin everything!

PeeKay

It was due to them feeding adverts to the desktop. Sigh.

You can find the fix for this particular borkage here:

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/02/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-176/

karlkarl

Its always the same in every release. But us plebs still seem to buy it and support it anyway. With mentally challenged upper management seemingly convincing themselves that the next Windows is great!

Kevin Johnston

Sadly the reason people stick with Windows is inertia and assurances from Microsoft that nobody makes business products to their standards

Which for all the wrong reasons in an accurate statement

Love the reddit coments

Anonymous Coward

"something i found out on acsadent is that if you open a folder from your desktop it will eventually word as the normal file explorer and you can search threw files on the hard drive"

Checked post history. Can confirm not non-English speaker. I'm guessing Windows insider turns people to liquor.

electrofan

Why are people so incompetent nowadays?

Same thing with the story of the top software guy for the military wwho quit

because the DOD suks at hiring the right people, implementing SECOPS,

etc etc.

WTF is happenning? China aint sucking like we do. they get stuff done.

People who do the hiring at all these places need to get fired RIGHT AWAY.

Beccause thats where a big part of the problem is.

Rock the Casbah

Anonymous Coward

Don't mind me, I'm just here for the subheading!

Uh-oh!! I forgot to submit to COMPULSORY URINALYSIS!