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Live, die, copy-paste, repeat: Everything is recycled now, including ideas

(2021/08/20)


Something for the Weekend, Sir? My house has gone missing. Where it used to be, there is just an absence, a nothing. I guess you could call it a gap in the housing market.

Like yourself, I was intrigued [1]after reading about [2]FourKingsMap last week to see what four rude words might describe the location of my old front doorstep back in Blighty*. Unfortunately, my previous abode is no longer where it was. Maybe it took things too literally when I told everybody I was going to "move house" and it tried running down the street after the removal van.

I called the present owners of the property to find out where the house might have gone. Had they misplaced it?

[3]

The owners were surprised to learn that their home had vanished, especially since they were in it at the time – in bed. In fact they sounded more annoyed than surprised, claiming that I had woken them up. This was despite the fact that I had made an effort to account for the difference between our respective world clock time zones by getting up in the middle of the night especially to make the call. "It's 3am here!" I laughed, self-deprecatingly. "What time is it over there?"

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[5]

Apparently, 2am.

They assured me the house was still where it was and wished me a good night – somewhat abruptly and ungraciously in my opinion, given the efforts I had gone to in their favour. So why does FourKingsMap show it as missing?

[6]

Well, obviously it can't show it as missing as it's missing. I made a screenshot of my old house's missingness to share with you but it wasn't very interesting to look at as it's not there. Like when you contact app customer support to tell them nothing happens when you tap on a certain button and they ask you to send in a screen recording that shows the problem; so you send them a video of nothing happening.

[7]Youtube Video

The issue, no doubt you have guessed, is with OpenStreetMap which underlies FourKings' sweary three-metre plots. Google Maps, Apple Maps and even my hopelessly terrible in-car sat-nav assure me the house is exactly where I was sure I'd left it. This raises the question: why does OpenStreetMap uniquely omit my ex-house from its database while showing those of all my ex-neighbours? (Notably, it also answers the question as to why those Yodel deliveries never turned up.)

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I suspect a bit of half-arsed, casual data recycling by an OpenStreetMap contributor might be the culprit. Either that or a worldwide conspiracy of paedophilic lizard aliens to no-platform my previous abode and re-landscape its digital location with a false pandemic narrative mountain overlooking a fake vaccine lake. Anyone got some [9]tin foil and a spare yellow tabard ? I must remember to post more messages to Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, Pinterest, Reddit and TikTok to tell the sheeple how governments are tracking my personal life.

Recycling is generally regarded as a good thing – as is upcycling, to some extent downcycling and, of course, cycling. The original map data of my old street must have come from somewhere and I guess it just got a bit garbled along the way.

Perhaps my house slipped unnoticed to the floor as an OpenStreetMap contributor's Mum moved the data off the kitchen table onto the bottom stair to be taken up to the spare bedroom later because dinner was ready and she was fed up with data lying around all over the place.

[10]Before I agree to let your app track me everywhere, I want something 'special' in return (winks)…

[11]Q: Post-lockdown, where would I like to go? A: As far away from my own head as possible

[12]You MUST present your official ID (but only the one that's really easy to fake)

[13]Is it broken yet? Is it? Is it? Ooh that means I can buy a sparkly, new but otherwise hard-to-justify replacement!

Now, not all recycling is a good thing. French 1980s crooner Ringo's recycling of "Video Killed The Radio Star" – the Buggles hit that launched MTV some 40 years ago – is a case in point. Its lyrics were incomprehensibly recycled as "Who's That Big Black Crow?" and its video featured the popular MOR singer in an Elvis fancy dress costume with Madonna's bra cups glued onto the shoulders, miming the finest air guitar performance you will ever see for a song with no guitars on it, in the middle of a children's playground patrolled by Dementors while a man runs around without any trousers on.

[14]Youtube Video

It's like every John Waters movie you ever saw rolled into three minutes. A masterpiece.

You will be pleased to hear that most of the contents of my old house were recycled. Chairs and sofas found new bums to sit on them; unfashionable clothing (i.e. everything on my side of the wardrobe) went to charity shops for NGO workers to gape at in horror when unpacking them from airdrops all around the developing world; and even the teetering Manhattan of cardboard boxes in the garage ended up being recycled into more cardboard boxes.

The one problem I had at the time was what to do with obsolete tech kit. I had tons of it because I could never bring myself to get rid of any "just in case". I did sell an old gadget on eBay once upon a time – an 88MB [15]Syquest removable drive, I think it was – only to find later that very week that I absolutely needed it for an urgent project. I never disposed of anything ever since.

Oh, yes, I've had all the beardies chuckling: "If it were me, I'd use that pile of 512 kilobyte Compact Flash cards as the basis for a home media server" or "Those broken mice could be turned into a the command module for the Mars mission if you slap on a bit of Sugru." But not a single one of these smug bastards would actually take any shit off my hands when I was moving house. Not only is obsolete tech hardware tricky to recycle, it seems you can't even give it away.

The only thriving sector of tech recycling appears to be in the field of ideas.

It's the only way I can explain the rise, fall, rise, fall and rise again of handheld gaming consoles. I've been through a few myself, starting with Nintendo's monochrome dual-screen LCD [16]Donkey Kong II in the early 1980s. My all-time favourite handheld console, which I find impossible to justify, remains Sega's Game Gear (basically a compacted Master System), which was the size of a brick and weighed as much as two.

[17]According to research , 70 per cent of gamers prefer playing games on smartphones than PCs and consoles. And yet dedicated handheld consoles keep coming back on the market again and again.

Not only are the manufacturers recycling the form factor, they are increasingly recycling older platforms for newer generations to lap up for the first time. Retro Games has even promised to bring back two dozen 16bit Amiga titles from the 1980s to run on its forthcoming [18]TheA500 Mini console. The device is said to be able to emulate both the Amiga A500 (original and enhanced chipsets) and A1200. Just imagine the faces on those hipsters when they experience Battle Chess , Worms and Speedball 2 for the first time!

Well, I am not going to be left out from the recycling craze this time around. With one eye on protecting our environment and the other on reviving culture from the past, there's a lot we can all do. For example, I have stopped flushing harmful dishwasher detergent into our fragile seas. I've done this by switching to disposable plastic plates and cutlery which I can dispose of without having to clean them. Disposal is achieved through the car window as I drive past my local park, where fellow citizens can recycle them for their own use. Their gratitude is palpable as they wave at me with their fists and shout something or other in gratitude as I speed off.

That just leaves the bloody TiVo. Everybody used to want one of these a while ago; everyone except me, that is. My internet provider asked me if I wanted one for free, and I said no, so they sent it to me anyway. Could I get rid of the bloody thing when I moved house? Even my internet provider refused to take it back. And all those people who used to get excited about TiVo began bleating about mine being "the wrong type".

It's not like it can't rewind or goes too far.

I put the blame on DVR. ®

Alistair Dabbs is a freelance technology tart, juggling tech journalism, training and digital publishing. He believes there should be a law dictating that toilet paper should be made uniquely from recycled fibres, since the life journey of toilet paper is a one-way trip. If there's any recycling to be done, it'll have to be before it swipes your bum. More at [19]Autosave is for Wimps and [20]@alidabbs .

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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/14/sweary_four_word_map/

[2] https://www.fourkingmaps.co.uk/

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[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/18/magna_carta_edinburgh_castle/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/13/something_for_the_weekend/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/06/something_for_the_weekend/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/30/something_for_the_weekend/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/23/something_for_the_weekend/

[14] https://youtu.be/9_FvJh_pHlQ

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2012/11/23/early_days_of_pcs/

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/07/nintendo_gameand_watch_revival/

[17] https://mejoresapuestas.com/en/2021/08/17/over-70-of-people-choose-smartphones-for-gaming-more-than-pcs-and-consoles-combined/

[18] https://retrogames.biz/thea500-mini

[19] https://autosaveisforwimps.substack.com

[20] https://twitter.com/alidabbs

[21] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Under cover

b0llchit

Your house has gone undercover and is enjoying the anonymity of that state.

The same can be said for most of the old electronic gadgets. When the modern world advances, then the old world goes undercover. Quite literally, most of the time under the cover of sand and other stuff. You remember the local landfill of the time? While under the cover, all of the systems will attain an anonymous state until the archeological society, sponsored by the tech industry searching for new old ideas, will partially de-anonymize and brand it with a new wave of modern.

So, it may take a generation or so, but your house will resurface. It will then be valued triple that what you got and you feel like a fool to have parted with it in the first place. All perfectly normal. Cheers!

Re: Under cover

Anonymous Coward

Naah, it's simpler than that: Dabbsy used to live in a Trap Street. That's why it only appears on certain maps.

Re: Under cover

Outski

his old address:

Dabbsy

23 Leinster Gardens

London

W2 3AN

**Note to Mods: this address is notable for a reason

--->why not, it's Friday

Re: Under cover

The Oncoming Scorn

Once stayed just up the road from there Henry 8th Hotel (Icon), there was also a very good Turkish restaurant (Also icon) we frequently made a habit of re-visiting on trade show trips (Also also icon).

Re: Under cover

NoneSuch

Hmmm, I saw this exact article on Reddit two years ago.

(Yes, joke icon for the less imaginative)

Re: Under cover

Chris G

Aside from the second house I ever lived in, all of the others have disappeared and the sites redeveloped. My personal belief is that the Langoliers are eating my past, that might explain why I have such a bad memory at times.

The French chap murdering the Buggles song can't play the guitar in addition to his other lacks of talent. Couldn't decide if he was wearing a wig helmet or had a deal for industrial sized containers of hair spray.

Re: Under cover

Sam not the Viking

I can only think Alistair's old abode is either being prepared for a Blue Plaque or having one removed after that awful video.

You can imagine the 'French chap murdering the Biggles song' not wanting his home to be recognised. You might wonder if 'Ringo' and Alistair have ever been observed together in the same room? Deduce what you like.

Temporary solution -> see icon

Better to light a single candle than curse the darkness

Dave Pickles

I'm sure OpenStreetMap and their users would be delighted if your were to add your former house to the map, after having so thoroughly assured yourself of it's continued existence. Actually most buildings on OSM are traced (legally) from Bing, so maybe it's a dastardly plot by Microsoft to remove you from history.

Nice

Flightmode

>It's not like it can't rewind or goes too far.

>I put the blame on DVR.

How to get rid of old stuff...

Anonymous Coward

Sneak out in the dead of night when everyone else is still asleep & leave it on their doorstep. Don't leave a note, don't ring the bell, just leave it on the step & run away. There, you've just gotten rid of old stuff...

It even works for grampa computers! *Cough*

Re: How to get rid of old stuff...

Warm Braw

Sneak out in the dead of night... & leave it on their doorstep

Can't do that if their house has gone missing. Have the new owners of the former Dabbs abode perhaps heard of your methods?

Dr. G. Freeman

Know, how you feel, went back to the ancestral hometown last weekend for a look around, and introduce the youngling to family there.

The house I was born in, knocked down so they could widen the road to the 14th century abbey.

The one I grew up in (after moving) is now the site of said Abbey's car park.

Luckily, the house my parents had when I was at high school (third council house) is still there, so as my brother said "At least there's somewhere to put [my brother's] blue plaque".

That many changes to the old place, including renaming of school, you'd think I never lived there.

Ditching Kit In France

Dr_N

I've said it before: The déchetterie or the "recycle" collection boxes at supermarkets and other stores. We paid the éco-taxe. (And Taxe d'habitation.) It's someone else's problem now.

So long as they aren't burning it round here it's fine and dandy.

Another title might be "Tech hoardings"

picturethis

"I never disposed of anything ever since"

- I was chuckling to myself before I read the following line: "Oh, yes, I've had all the beardies chuckling"

Anyways:

Re: "512 kilobyte Compact Flash cards" - I have a bunch of 512 MB CF cards because I use them in an older (very expensive Canon 1DsMII) camera that doesn't recognize cards > 2GB. At 16MB imager - the camera is still in service and takes awesome images. I just used it last month to take pictures of my niece's junior prom.

Re: Old 80GB (40-120GB) SATA SSD drives - I have just recently started using this pile to add SSD USB 3.0 boot drives to my Pi 4b's. They make a great pair - performance is 10x over any SD card I've tried.

I just inventoried my "card" drawer and the smallest CF card I could find is 4MB and the smallest SD card I found is 16MB along with numerous CF->PCMCIA adapters - remember those? Cards aren't worth much (now-a-days), but they're small and don't take up much room, so I keep them...

Re: Another title might be "Tech hoardings"

TomPhan

Somewhere I've got a 2mb card, used to expand the memory of my digital camera in 1997.

"Mobile" home?

My other car WAS an IAV Stryker

My first residence was in a "mobile" home, made in Minneapolis and towed out to a patch of former farmland (as opposed to the usual "trailer park") that my parents bought directly from the farmer -- no banks involved.

It has not been moved in 50 years (I don't know the exact date, but this is the year).

I think its "mobile" status should be officially revoked as a misnomer, but "manufactured home" is usually reserved for newer affairs of higher quality than this, so I don't know what to call it anymore.

(Also, Dabbsy's footnote that Blighty = UK -- anyone reading El Reg should be right quick to pick that up; he shouldn't have to explain it. It seemed so natural to me I that ignored the asterisk until I saw it at the end.)

Aleph0

"Madonna's bra cups" on his shoulders is a charitable way of putting it... All I can see is two poop emojis.

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