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Tesla battery fire finally flamed out after four-day conflagration

(2021/08/03)


The [1]fire in a large battery using Tesla kit in Australia is out – four days after it started.

The Country Fire Authority (CFA) in the state of Victoria [2]wrote that the fire was declared under control at 1505 AEST on Monday, August 2. The blaze fired up on Friday, July 30.

The fire burned all weekend, and at 0930 AEST on the Monday, the CFA said the blaze "has subsided significantly but is not yet under control."

[3]

Crews struggled to contain the blaze because water reacts with lithium-ion batteries to produce fire.

[4]Inventor of the graphite anode – key Li-ion battery tech – says he can now charge an electric car in 10 minutes

[5]Preliminary report on Texas Tesla crash finds Autosteer was 'not available' along road where both passengers died

[6]Apple iPad torched this guy's home, lawsuit claims

The CFA has confirmed that the blaze took root in a [7]Megapack – Tesla's shipping-container-sized batteries that can store 3 MWh of power. The project using the Megapack - 210 of them, to be precise, is called "The Big Battery" and will have capacity of 300 MegaWatt hoursonce repaired.

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A Megapack that isn't on fire. Source: Tesla. Click to enlarge

The cause of the fire remains unknown, but investigations have commenced. CFA officials said the fire is the first known such incident to afflict a Megapack.

The site is still being monitored, as two adjacent Megapacks were damaged by heat. ®

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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/30/tesla_battery_on_fire/

[2] https://news.cfa.vic.gov.au/firefighters-bring-large-battery-fire-near-geelong-under-control

[3] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_offbeat/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YQkTs5-g3mp08uefu7BtuQAAAIY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/14/rachid_yazami_the_future_of_ev_batteries/

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/11/tesla_ntsb/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2021/03/27/apple_ipad_allegedly_torched_mans/

[7] https://www.tesla.com/en_au/megapack

[8] https://regmedia.co.uk/2021/08/03/handout_tesla_megapack.jpg

[9] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



How can we dance when our Earth is turning?

wolfetone

How can we sleep when our Tesla batteries' are burning?

Re: How can we dance when our Earth is turning?

Annihilator

The point of these projects is to get *rid* of oil, midnight or otherwise.

(Terrific reference though - absolutely well done)

Re: How can we dance when our Earth is turning?

Sceptic Tank

Boo! Somebody else already pointed out in the first article that it's not just the Auzzies' beds that are burning.

Extinguishers...

Real Ale is Best

Maybe they need to keep some tanks of liquid nitrogen on-site for putting out fires; I suspect CO2 handheld extinguishers won't be up to the job.

I guess halon is out of the question.

I'm actually surprised the containers don't have piping for injecting such fire suppression measures.

Re: Extinguishers...

Graham Dawson

Won't work. LiIon cells are their own oxidiser and fuel source.

Re: Extinguishers...

John Robson

I suspect LN2 would drop the temperature sufficiently to stop combustion.

Re: Extinguishers...

Sorry that handle is already taken.

Lithium-Ion cells contain very little elemental lithium. The hazard is from the flammable liquid electrolyte combined with the tendency for thermal runaway when they're damaged. They need something other than plain water to extinguish them.

" Crews struggled to contain the blaze because water reacts with lithium-ion batteries to produce fire. " as stated by the article is not correct.

Re: Extinguishers...

maffski

Aus is big. The safest, cheapest and easiest solution is to do exactly what they did. Space the batteries out and let it burn.

My maths is bad but

Ali Dodd

210 megapacks each which store 3MWh to have a total storage of 300MWh

Where did the other 330MWh of storage go?

Re: My maths is bad but

richardcox13

ISTR the 300 was 300MW: the maximum output power, not 300WMh.

Re: My maths is bad but

Hubert Cumberdale

(In any case, whoever wrote the phrase "3 MWh of power" could do with a gentle physics lesson on the difference between power and energy.)

By "under control"

IGotOut

They mean it's burnt itself out.

fire suppression entry pipe per container?

ClarkMills

Something that the fire department or even the site staff can hook a hose up to and completely fill the problem battery container?

Obviously after the problem battery is first disconnected.

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