Mountains on neutron stars are not even a millimetre tall due to extreme gravity
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When certain massive stars finish burning all their fuel and go supernova, the leftover core matter collapses in on itself to form a neutron star. These bodies are compressed to such a degree that their electrons and protons combine into neutrons. Their mass – typically about 1.4 times the mass of our Sun – is squeezed into a sphere just 20km or so across. Our star has a diameter of 1.4 million km, for comparison.
Neutron stars are thus among the densest objects in the known universe, and have extreme gravitational fields, so much so that mountains on their surfaces may only be a fraction of a millimetre tall. This would make their surface smoother and more uniform than previously thought, according to Nils Andersson, professor of applied mathematics at England's University of Southampton. These conclusions were presented this week at 2021's [1]National Astronomy Meeting hosted by the Royal Astronomical Society.
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“Colloquially, 'mountain' is taken to mean 'quadrupole deformation,' basically stretching a spinning star in such a way that it becomes optimal at emitting gravitational waves,” Prof Andersson explained to The Register . “Perhaps the word is also ironic given that these 'mountains’ are tiny.'
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The gravitational wave aspect is interesting. Spinning neutron stars should produce these waves, which are basically ripples in the fabric of spacetime, from their surface deformations. If neutron stars' mountains, if you will, truly are so small, it may be more difficult than some anticipate to detect their gravitational waves.
Unlike mountains on Earth, these minuscule structures on neutron stars aren’t formed by geological processes. Instead, mountains on these dead stars are forged by how much material is pulled outward when they spin. It doesn’t stretch by much since the star's gravity crushes it inwards.
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“First of all, one would never expect these mountains to be huge, given that the gravity on a neutron star is so strong," the professor added. "But if you compare the relative change in the gravitational potential then the predicted neutron star mountains would no longer be so puny compared to, say, Mount Everest."
[6]You wait ages for a neutron star and black hole to collide, then two pairs come along at once
[7]Years after we detected two neutron stars crashing into each other, we're still picking up X-rays. We don't know why
[8]Grav wave boffins are unsure if they just spotted the smallest black hole or the biggest neutron star seen yet
[9]We spent billions building atom smashers – and now boffins think nature's doing the same thing for free?
Since the 2000s, at least, scientists have been trying to figure out what's going on at the surface of neutron stars. Prof Andersson and his colleagues emitted [10]two [11]papers this year and last describing computer models that aim to predict neutron stars' mountain heights; these simulate the objects as bodies of dense fluid contained in an elastic crust.
“These results show how neutron stars truly are remarkably spherical objects,” [12]said co-author Fabian Gittins, a PhD student in theoretical astrophysics at Southampton. “Additionally, they suggest that observing gravitational waves from rotating neutron stars may be even more challenging than previously thought.”
Gravitational-wave detectors like LIGO and Virgo have spotted ripples of spacetime caused by pairs of neutron stars smashing into one another; we've yet to see waves from a lone spinning neutron star. And if these surface simulations are correct, that may not be a surprise. ®
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Re: Dragon's Egg
Seconded - I came here to post the same thing but Steve K beat me to it! (I really must get up earlier in the morning...)
Re: Dragon's Egg
Thirded. Forward was also a research physicist, so the science is highly accurate. He wrote several SciFi novels, including a sequel to Dragon's Egg (Starquake) , but the former remains his best, I think.
"extreme gravitational fields"
IIRC, I once read that, if you could hold an object 1 meter above the surface of a neutron star, when you let it go it would impact said surface at a speed of 1000km/h.
So 0 to 1000 in one meter. Talk about acceleration !
Re: "extreme gravitational fields"
I think you’re a bit off there. Plugging in values for Gm1m2/r2 suggests an acceleration of around 10^12 m/s2.
v2 = 2as over 1m would suggest an impact speed of around 2000 km per second.
Re: "extreme gravitational fields"
Sounds more like it. The gravitational field around a neutron star is so strong, it forms a gravitational lens and you would be able to see some of the back of the star. Under some conditions, the gravitational field can trap photons in orbit, meaning you would be able to see the entire surface of the star from one vantage point.
The magnetic field of a neutron star is so strong, that the energy density of the magentic field is much greater than the energy density of regular matter. It's strong enough to turn atoms into long thin cylinders, and do strange things to photons.
I love neutron stars, they have such insane properties.
Re: "extreme gravitational fields"
So no chance of landing a craft on it to take pictures of the mountains?
(P.S. 1000 km/s sounds somewhat on the slow side. But I'm no astrophici expert).
Re: "extreme gravitational fields"
If the object was of any size I'd think that the differential force betwen the bottom and top of the object would pull it apart during its short journey to the surface.
Re: "extreme gravitational fields"
As explained in " Neutron Star " by Larry Niven
Re: "extreme gravitational fields"
Make it out of scrith.
Re: "extreme gravitational fields"
"If the object was of any size I'd think that the differential force betwen the bottom and top of the object would pull it apart during its short journey to the surface."
Well you couldn't stand there to drop it either, but as a theoretical exercise it's fascinating.
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Misnomer
Gravitational wave? Nah. Gravity doesn't bend space time. It propagates at the speed of light. To propagate across space at the same *speed* as light propagates, it would have to travel the same *path* as the light. In other words, it doesn't bend space, it follows the *path* of bent space.
So it's a misnomer.
This 1mm in what unit is it measured? The post-squeezed, or the pre-squeezed space?! You'd need to use a coordinate system independant of the squeezing!
Perhaps the first step is to get a clear idea of your coordinates? Pick a system of cordinates independance of space and time. Such a coordinate system has to be the path taken by some force or effect, propagating infinitely quickly (i.e. independant of time), and with some arbitrary reference scalar (independant of space).
You'd then have something you could usefully go explore the boundary case of a black hole for. In your head it is the escape velocity of light: when light cannot escape, then the blackness begins, as if light travels at a constant speed!. But using our new "non-bending" coordinate system, light's path between two points could be bent, so the distance it travels is not a constant for all bent paths, so the speed it travels is not constant!
So now you can see the boundary case model of the black hole is incorrect. Suddenly we're free from this shit "light speed is constant" confusion. Now you can see light and matter are *related* stuff, and if you compare light against matter you calculate that *related* 'constant', which won't work if the matter you're comparing it to is in a different amount of bendiness than light!.... Say for example, the light is inside a black hole and matter outside...
Even simply getting a clearer understanding of our coordinates system, gives you a clearer understanding of the boundary case for a black hole.
On astrophysicist Thomas Buchert work, yeh, it must be a finite universe.
https://www.livescience.com/universe-three-dimensional-donut.html
The trouble with trying to estimate its size in terms of the age of the universe, is you're keeping the big-bang-matter-outrunning-light-visible-universe thing which is badly flawed. For that to have worked, light would be travelling over a different version of space than matter. Yet here you are wrapping light and matter around the same way! Here we are realizing that light speed is not a constant, and suddenly you don't need that broken model anymore!
You *have* a observation of the finiteness of the universe, the "observable" universe.
The universe 'size' is the visible universe.
Dragon's Egg
Not completely relevant here, but I can recommend the novel "Dragon's Egg" by Robert L. Forward for a clever Sci-Fi novel involving life on a neutron star.