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Audacity fork maintainer quits after alleged harassment by 4chan losers who took issue with 'Tenacity' name

(2021/07/07)


Efforts to wrest control of the open-source Audacity audio editing project from corporate owner Muse Group have hit a stumbling block after the maintainer of one of the more popular forks stepped down over alleged physical harassment.

The trouble began when the two-decade-old Audacity project was [1]acquired by Muse Group in May, a freshly launched parent company holding commercial services Ultimate Guitar, MuseScore, and others. Audacity seemed like a natural enough fit, and new maintainer Martin "Tantacrul" Keary promised it would remain both free and open source.

Days later, the company [2]added telemetry to the software, which uploaded unspecified metrics to third-party servers including Google in the US and Yandex in Russia. The fact the telemetry was optional did little to pacify critics, and it was [3]was quickly reversed . Then came a change to the [4]privacy agreement , which included an attempt to prevent under-13s from using the software – on the face of it an apparent breach of the GNU General Public Licence 2 under which the software is published.

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The responses to these moves was entirely predictable: the project [6]was forked , multiple times, taking the source code from either before the telemetry was introduced or after it was removed and spinning it into a new project under a different name – outside Muse Group's control.

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Since the introduction of telemetry, the Audacity project has been forked more than 50 times – including into the Tenacity project, created by pseudonymous programmer "cookiengineer." It's this fork which attracted the attention of notorious anonymous forum 4chan, resulting in what cookiengineer claims is real-world harassment – and his abandoning of the project.

Doorstep harassment prompts departure

"I really thought long about this, and I haven't slept in two days due to ongoing harassments of 4chan," cookiengineer claimed in a post to the Tenacity [9]GitHub Issues page some 13 hours ago . "As the first people were literally arriving at my place of living, where they knocked on my doors and windows to scare us, I am hereby officially stepping down as a maintainer of this project.

"The safety of my family is worth more than an open source project. They found out my address via a YouTube video where someone was posting my nickname combined with my real legal name (which meanwhile got taken down due to my asking). The incident happened shortly 23:00 CEST [21:00 UTC], today; and the police took over this case."

The cause of the alleged harassment? A disagreement over the project's name. Being unable to use the Audacity trademark, now owned by Muse Group, cookiengineer ran a poll to find a new name for the fork. Those on 4chan who can never pass up an opportunity to influence the outcome of a poll took it into their hands to ensure Sneedacity, a reference to a [10]throwaway Simpsons gag in which a store is signposted "Sneed's Feed & Seed, formerly Chuck's", won.

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When cookiengineer deleted the poll and picked Tenacity as the project's name instead, it didn't go over well. The initial response from involved 4chan members, who are by nature of the board anonymous, seemed entirely measured: forking the Audacity project themselves, and creating the Sneedacity of which they had felt robbed.

A tale of two forks – and 4chan

If things had ended there, the two projects could have lived side-by-side – but cookiengineer claims 4chan members took things considerably further, including into physical harassment. While a search of the forum shows no evidence of cookiengineer's address details being shared nor calls for physical violence, there were several calls for action to see him banned from GitHub, multiple threads on the topic are filled with vitriol – mostly aimed at cookiengineer, but with the 4channer responsible for Sneedacity targeted too.

"They are cyber terrorists, not cringe cancel kiddos," cookiengineer alleged in his announcement. "They physically tried to harm me in real life, and this has gotten out of hand. They are physically harming people, in real life. Be aware of anything you do BEFORE trying to do the right thing.

"I am in contact with GitHub and the German BKA (federal police) as of now, therefore I will not disclose any more information publicly about what happened to anyone. Evidence has been gathered, submitted and will be acted upon. I will not legally let go of this."

The Tenacity project will appoint a new maintainer, should anyone still want the job. Muse Group, meanwhile, is potentially wondering just what it has got itself into. ®

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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/04/audacity_muse_group/

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/07/audacity_telemetry/

[3] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/14/audacity_telemetry/

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/audacity/

[5] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YOXPoaGHB0z8FF8DEhmGzgAAAAk&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/06/audacity_fork/

[7] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YOXPoaGHB0z8FF8DEhmGzgAAAAk&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33YOXPoaGHB0z8FF8DEhmGzgAAAAk&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[9] https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/99

[10] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ElIvNBYj0

[11] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YOXPoaGHB0z8FF8DEhmGzgAAAAk&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[12] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Seriously?

macjules

Someone does not like a name for a project so physically goes round to your home and threatens you?

That person (persons?) needs to be in a mental institution, and the quicker the better.

Re: Seriously?

WmK

Well, as the article says, 'a search of the forum shows no evidence of cookiengineer's address details being shared nor calls for physical violence'. Not sure how that tallies with the claim, but I guess the police will sort it out.

Re: Seriously?

Anonymous Coward

I would expect the 4chan cretins to do the dirty on private messenger apps - this won't have been their first rodeo when it comes to harassing people.

(Posting anon for obvious reasons).

Re: Seriously?

msknight

Sadly, judging by the way the world is going now, we are already living in a global mental institution and the safest place to be, is in a room with padded walls.

Re: Seriously?

Anonymous Coward

The place is called " [1]The Outside of the Asylum " and it's where Wonko The Sane lives.

[1] https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/The_Outside_of_the_Asylum

Re: Seriously?

Ozzard

Assume one person in 100,000 is sad enough to do something like this.

Assume you are in a city of 1 million people.

The law of large numbers applies, unfortunately.

Re: physical harassment

Snake

And this is why [you] have a good sized piece of (insulating) land, "No Trespassing" signs, and a shotgun...

Re: Seriously?

Anonymous Coward

Why rock salt? 00-buck works just fine.

Re: Seriously?

Anonymous Coward

Someone does not like a name for a project so physically goes round to your home and threatens you?

That person (persons?) needs to be in a mental institution, and the quicker the better.

Agreed on that, and...

Downvoters on that post = 4chan members

(also anon for obvious reasons)

Also, predict that this thread will be full of anonymous cowards.

Re: Seriously?

Geoffrey W

RE: "Someone does not like a name for a project so physically goes round to your home and threatens you?"

My reading of the article is that the 4chan choice - Sneedacity, which is almost as stupid as Boaty McBoatface - won in a poll of users for a new name, then the poll was rejected (rightly IMHO, YMMV) and Tenacity used instead. So the babies at 4chan had a tantrum. You involve the general internet denizens in your affairs at your peril. The internet is as unpredictable as a crocodile floating in the river; Or as predictable in it's unpredictability. You know you're going to get bitten, you just don't know where or when. Roll the dice and say something on the internet - Perhaps you'll be the lucky loser today! Good luck!

Re: That person (persons?) needs to be in a mental institution, and the quicker the better.

Anonymous Coward

there are over 7 bn people in this world, unfortunately, a large proportion is idiots, and within that group alone, boy, the scale goes not only from 1 - 1000, but in all possible dimensions :(

The Audacity of them!!!

knarf

Don't think they'd do this in Texas or other stand your ground states.

Re: The Audacity of them!!!

Anonymous Coward

Nope, the Texas branch of 4Chan would simply burn your house down.

Re: The Audacity of them!!!

Anonymous Coward

Or SWAT you.

Re: The Audacity of them!!!

Geoffrey W

Probably both, then dance on the ashes singing a hymn and tossing their 10 gallon hats in the air displaying to us all their righteous wonderfulness - Stereotypes? Stereotypes only become stereotypes by being often seen.

Re: The Audacity of them!!!

iron

Instead they will just SWAT you and get you killed by your own cops.

Anonymous Coward

Maybe we should set up a poll to rename 4chan and get the name SadLoosersChan to win and see how they react to that?

Anonymous Coward

4Cunts ?

Anonymous Coward

Unfortunately, I suspect there are more than 4 of them...

Anonymous Coward

Hmm but what if 4 = for?

Anonymous Coward

Or 4=Fore.

But then, 4Skins might be a better moniker.

karlkarl

Is there a reason the 4chan guys are defending Muse Group?

Is this kind of like a form of stockholme syndrome or if a company treats you mean you revere them higher on a pedestal? I do see that a little with Valve and their fairly stringent Steam DRM platform.

Or are they projecting their own inadequacy? They can't hope to ever break free of corporate / consumer control measures and so simply do not understand that others who are more technologically capable can manage and thus get jealous? Again, you see this a little bit in the Linux communities when someone tries to get away from proprietary blobs like Nvidia's.

Possibly there is enough weird human behaviour here to undertake a psychology doctorate on ;)

Robert Grant

They aren't defending them. See the article for details.

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