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Audacity users stick the knife – and fork – in to strip audio editor of unwanted features

(2021/07/06)


Contributors disgruntled with the [1]recent direction of cross-platform FOSS audio software Audacity are forking the sound editor to a version that does not have the features or requirements that have upset some in the community.

One such project can be found [2]on GitHub , with user "cookiengineer" proclaiming themselves "evil benevolent temporary dictator" in order to get the ball rolling.

Oh boi, [3]#audacity issue regarding legal terms and privacy policy exploded yesterday. Like, for real.

I created a fork that removed all those features, and we're currently working on a rebrand, github orga, and automated builds via GitHub actions: [4]https://t.co/6hOI5oHVGF — Cookie Engineer (@cookiengineer) [5]July 5, 2021

"Being friendly seemed to have invited too many trolls," [6]observed the engineer , "and we must stop this behaviour."

Presumably that refers to the trolling rather than being friendly. And goodness, the project has had somewhat of a baptism by fire in recent hours as a number of 4chan users elected to [7]launch a raid on it .

This is why we can't have nice things.

[8]

The project is blunt with regard to the causes of the fork – Audacity's [9]privacy policy updates, the [10]contributors licence agreement , and the [11]a furore over introducing telemetry have all played a part.

[12]Not for children: Audacity fans drop the f-bomb after privacy agreement changes

[13]The Audacity: Audio tool finds new and exciting ways to annoy contributors with a Contributor License Agreement

[14]Audacity's new management hits rewind on telemetry plans following community outrage

[15]'A massive middle finger': Open-source audio fans up in arms after Audacity opts to add telemetry capture

As is the case with many open-source projects, discussion is ongoing concerning a name for the application and a few have already volunteered to create the logo. At least one wag has suggested "Audacious" for a title (sadly already nabbed by another project), although we're sure The Register readers can come up with a suggestion or two of their own.

Certainly, it can't be called "Audacity" – we can almost hear the firing up of the sueball machine from here.

[16]

The source can be made to compile, but the friendlier installers familiar to Audacity users were not available at the time of writing. Code around crash reports and telemetry has also been stripped, although "cookiengineer" [17]observed in a comment over at YCombinator: "I have to say that The Muse Group's intent seem to have been clearly that the code can be built without any of the tracking."

This chimes with comments from new Audacity boss, Martin Keary, who told The Register in [18]May that even if telemetry were to be introduced, it would be fully optional. His remarks followed an ill-advised GitHub [19]pull request regarding "basic telemetry" that sent the community into a spin.

[20]

However, since then, Audacity's new owners, The Muse Group, have continued to fiddle with the veteran app. [21]A CLA followed later in May and, most recently, the privacy agreement was changed. That latest move appears to have been the final straw for some.

We contacted Audacity to get its take on the forking of its code, but have yet to receive a response. ®

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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/audacity/

[2] https://github.com/temporary-audacity/audacity/

[3] https://twitter.com/hashtag/audacity?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[4] https://t.co/6hOI5oHVGF

[5] https://twitter.com/cookiengineer/status/1411913168335650829?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[6] https://github.com/temporary-audacity/audacity/issues/33

[7] https://twitter.com/cookiengineer/status/1412199105732939776

[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YOR@HVzHEOu-ErunMzyqKAAAAEU&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/audacity/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/27/audacity_cla/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/14/audacity_telemetry/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/05/audacity/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/27/audacity_cla/

[14] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/14/audacity_telemetry/

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/07/audacity_telemetry/

[16] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YOR@HVzHEOu-ErunMzyqKAAAAEU&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[17] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27727466

[18] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/14/audacity_telemetry/

[19] https://github.com/audacity/audacity/pull/835

[20] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YOR@HVzHEOu-ErunMzyqKAAAAEU&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[21] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/27/audacity_cla/

[22] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Certainly, it can't be called "Audacity"

Anonymous Coward

Audy McAudioface? :-)

Sorry.

Re: Certainly, it can't be called "Audacity"

Lon24

TINA - This Is Not Audacity aka There Is No Alternative

Re: Certainly, it can't be called "Audacity"

fidodogbreath

I vote for Gentility.

Re: Certainly, it can't be called "Audacity"

MiguelC

Audelicious?

Re: Certainly, it can't be called "Audacity"

CountCadaver

How about a squiggle with the unofficial name being "The app previously known as Audacity"

or "NotAudacity

Re: Certainly, it can't be called "Audacity"

jason_derp

"Sorry."

Emoticons are a little early oughts...

Auda-town?

John Robson

Auda-village?

Neil Barnes

Oh!dacity...

Audiance

fuzzie

Audio + Ambiance ?

Oi! Dacity!..

Anonymous Coward

"... You might be free and have a bunch of handy options that make sound editing a breeze (or more accurately, that look a bit crap really but at least it's free) but that's no excuse for prying on your cheapskate customers and their perfectly legitimate uses for your handy but cluncky looking software!"

Yours,

Frank Doberman

How about "Audible City"?

Sam Adams the Dog

How about "Audible City"?

fidodogbreath

I'm just glad to see people outside of IT pushing back hard against the ever-encroaching "telemetry" threat.

Some Auptions

Muckminded

Tuning Fork

Super Happy Audio Tinkerer

Audabull

Sagacity

Space Audity

The Last Strawdacity

Nifty

Audacious Gracious

Inventor of the Marmite Laser

Audacifork?

"Pluck" wins for me

Ozzard

Congratulations, Richard - I reckon a name that is closely related to Audacity, the plucking of a project out of the jaws of the Muse group, and plucking of stringed instruments is an excellent choice. And therefore guaranteed not to be the one chosen :-(.

Anonymous Coward

"number of 4chan users elected to launch a raid on it."

Protecting good guy Muse Group? Hah, how bizarre those 4chan kids are.

I like Audacious because it is close to Audacity. And thus a good "fsck you guys!".

However, a clear separation would possibly be better in the long run so new users don't accidentally download the obsolete Audacity rather than the proper modern alternative.

SUDO-SU

Audiotron

Audio City

WaveRider

Bodacious

wub

Or am I showing my age too blatantly?

Supposedly coined from both "bold" and "audacious": how could Bill and Ted (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_And_Ted%27s_Excellent_Adventure) have given us less than awesome guidance? Even the Urban Dictionary shows positive associations.

people seem to be using the "sh" sound lately

the lad

Audaschity?

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Audick

CountCadaver

I vote for any of the following: Agammenon, Apocalyse, Annihilation, Armageddon

or Expletive, Exclamation

Will Godfrey

I suggested AudioCity myself, no takers though :(

It seems a daft point, but they really need to pick a name that's not going to sound too geeky to ordinary folk.

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