Happy with your existing Windows 10 setup? Good, because Windows 11 could turn its nose up at your CPU
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2021/06/25/windows_11_processor/
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Although the latest version of Windows 10 (21H1) will go [2]all the way back to the fifth generation of Intel's chippery, Windows 11 is a [3]good deal more choosy and starts at the eighth generation.
The eighth generation of Intel processors, codenamed Coffee Lake, turned up in 2017.
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The change means that while Windows 11 might install on older kit, there is every chance that setup will whinge – followed by a possible wholesale failure at some undefined point in the future. Microsoft has, after all, made it quite clear that it won't be supporting such hardware.
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And that even includes Microsoft-made hardware.
A glance at the company's flagship Surface Studio 2 (starting at a mere £3,549) shows an Intel Core i7-7820HQ lurking within the chassis, meaning that at time of writing it is not on the guest list as far as the [7]Windows Processor Requirements are concerned.
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The same applies to the company's [9]first generation of Surface Laptops .
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It is almost as if the Surface and Windows teams are not talking to each other despite both being headed by Panos Panay.
Much of the current Dell, HP, and Lenovo line-up have more recent chips but older systems may need replacement if Windows 11 is to be installed, despite being more than capable from a performance standpoint.
According to [14]Microsoft's documentation , Windows 11 also requires the presence of a Trusted Platform Module (TPM) – version 2.0 – and UEFI Secure Boot enabled.
Owners of more recent PCs might have to delve into their BIOS settings to flip the required switch. Others wanting the Windows 11 experience could be looking at new hardware.
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Still, Windows Insiders on the Dev Channel have been given a slight reprieve. Until Windows 11 goes to General Availability, Microsoft will allow the bravest of Insiders to play with it, even if their hardware does not meet the minimum requirements. It is "our way of saying thanks," [16]said Microsoft .
Beta Channel users without the appropriate hardware will not be so lucky. The first preview builds of Windows 11 are expected there later this summer, at which point anyone without the correct kit will get booted into the Release Preview channel. "Some of these PCs may be able to move back to the Beta Channel, but at their own risk."
While the insistence on TPM is understandable to a certain extent, it is a shame that Microsoft is yanking support for older CPUs. During its Windows 11 presentation, it sought to portray itself as a more kindly custodian of application stores than certain other tech giants.
By abruptly pulling the rug from beneath users with older hardware, it risks the ire of its customers even as its hardware partners look forward to a potentially lucrative upgrade wave.
According to Dell, there are about [17]700 million PCs out there that are older than four years. ®
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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/24/microsoft_windows_11/
[2] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-10-21h1-supported-intel-processors
[3] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YNZR-smjuwBQ1sd0daZn9gAAAMY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
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[7] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/windows-processor-requirements
[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YNZR-smjuwBQ1sd0daZn9gAAAMY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[9] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/surface-laptop-1st-gen-features-30b1b484-4587-928f-ea9a-351d411569af
[10] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/24/microsoft_windows_11/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/24/windows_teaser/
[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/21/windows_11_column/
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/windows_11_leak_microsoft/
[14] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-hardware/design/minimum/minimum-hardware-requirements-overview
[15] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/front&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33YNZR-smjuwBQ1sd0daZn9gAAAMY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0
[16] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/06/24/preparing-for-insider-preview-builds-of-windows-11/
[17] https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/03/lenovo_on_pcs/
[18] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: Irrelevant
"While the insistence on TPM is understandable to a certain extent..."
No it's not.
Another option:
From the article:
According to Microsoft's documentation, Windows 11 also requires the presence of a Trusted Platform Module (TPM) – version 2.0 – and UEFI Secure Boot enabled.
Owners of more recent PCs might have to delve into their BIOS settings to flip the required switch. Others wanting the Windows 11 experience could be looking at new hardware.
The rest of us will likely be looking at a new operating system.
That's me screwed then. My desktop dates back to 2013. Having said that, I only run Win10 in a VM on this machine anyway, it has always been a Linux box and it's got 32GB RAM in it.
What benefits might I get (running Win11 is not considered a benefit) from an upgrade to a more modern CPU. I don't consider a lighter wallet to be a benefit either. If one is not doing high-end graphics or CAD then why upgrade something that's still working just fine?
Its a benefit, just not for you.
Icon - Wheres me flipping wallet!
What the Hell
is wrong with MS?
Well that’s the end of the road for my Z800 then. Wait a minute - what are the minimum CPU requirements for Linux? Guess I’ll be okay for a while longer then!
The good ol days
Z80 assembly, and no need for an emulator... that must be something ;)
Heard on next year's earnings call....
"We failed to notice the short supply of chips available when we decided the minimum requirements for Windows 11. While our users are delighted to run our newly regurgitated user interface, they are painfully disappointed because the hardware industry cannot keep up."
What gen?
"Although the latest version of Windows 10 (21H1) will go all the way back to the fifth generation of Intel's chippery..."
I must be imagining the fact that I have 21H1 installed on two 3rd gen and one 4th gen Intel chipped devices then.
Re: What gen?
Yes definitely works on an i7-3770, and at a very useable speed, unless you want to play the latest games.
I've been happily using my core i5-750 since 2009. Currently runs Windows 10 with dual 4k / 1080p monitors just fine. Only reason I even bothered switching to Windows 10 was for the independent monitor scaling.
> 3.2 Connectivity
> Windows 11 device must include at least one network connectivity option, such as Ethernet or Wi-Fi.
Hmm. I wonder why?
Foot meet bullet
Really?
How f'in stupid can they get?
They're meant to entice more users, not kick out and exclude a majority. Someone needs their heads looking at.
Encourage a mass ditching of either perfectly capable hardware OR a perfectly incapable new os. Either way, it's a dumb strategy.
And I'm a long term reasonably happy user of Windows ten.
Given over Microsoft, such draconian nonsense hasn't worked well before, why try it now?
Ooh aah Ooh aah
I drove my tractor through your haystack last night (ooh aah ooh aah)
I threw me pitchfork at your dog to keep quiet (ooh aah ooh aah)
Now something's telling me
That you'm avoiding me
Come on now darling you've got something I need
Cuz I got a brand M$ 'operating system'
An' I'll give you the key
bad for the planet
The company I work for has a refresh cycle on hardware running at around 7 to 10 years now as the hardware is so much more reliable than 20 to 30 years ago. So Microsoft's deciding to obsolete so much good gear is madness and morally bankrupt.
I guess if M$ were to continue to support and fix Windows 10 for another 6 or 7 years then the win11 limitation won't be a such a problem (I hate the updates anyway, always moving shit around).
Wait for Windows 12
On the basis that every alternate version of Windows is crap, Windows 11 is bound to be as well so by the time 12 comes out I'll be ready for a new machine and it might all work.
Will it run
On my Xeon E3 ?
Looks like the main problem is that my graphics card won't be supported for much longer: the 780 is basically obsolete.
This is ultimately great for us. All those people and companies chucking out perfectly good computers just to run the next update of Windows.
I haven't had to buy a new PC for over 10 years. And what is best is ~5 years old is the sweet spot for open-source operating systems. And this is exactly what we will get :)
Irrelevant
I haven't even got a useful, functional WIndows 10 yet.
Who cares about 11 ?