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What you need to know about Microsoft Windows 11: It will run Android apps

(2021/06/24)


Microsoft on Thursday announced Windows 11, or tried to as an uncooperative video stream left many viewers of the virtual event flummoxed by intermittent transmission gaps in the opening minutes.

The technical issues proved bad enough that Matt Velloso, Technical Advisor to the CEO at Microsoft, [1]suggested trying the YouTube video stream as an alternative to the Microsoft-hosted one.

But with some of the features already known as a result of [2]a leaked build last week , the impact of the intermittent video dropouts was less than it might have been.

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[4]Windows 11 has a new KDE-esque user-interface and new features like Snap Layouts, Snap Groups and Desktops (for organizing apps into collections and multitasking). Chat from Microsoft Teams has been integrated in the taskbar, Widgets have taken the place of Timeline, and there are various gaming-oriented enhancements like Auto HDR.

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A summary of developer-level changes is [7]here . The list includes the ability to mix native Windows-on-Arm code with emulated x64 code in processes and modules on Arm-powered PCs, allowing native Arm apps to run even if they still have some x64 dependencies in them.

Windows 11 shouldn't exist because 10 was [8]supposed to be the final major version number of Windows. Yet it is due be officially released around November or December this year as a free upgrade for "eligible" users. Your PC [9]will need UEFI Secure Boot firmware and a TPM 2.0 security chipset to run it. And you'll need an internet connection and a Microsoft account during setup of Windows 11 Home.

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"The free upgrade will begin to roll out to eligible Windows 10 PCs this holiday and continuing into 2022," Microsoft said. "Next week, we’ll begin to share an early build of Windows 11 to the Windows Insider Program."

There's a tool you can [11]download from Microsoft to check whether you can use Windows 11; Redmond blithely suggests you "consider purchasing a new PC" if your systems doesn't meet the requirements. Below is the launch video.

[12]Youtube video of the Windows 11 launch

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Under the hood, Windows 11 is largely Windows 10, and that's perhaps for the best. "Windows 11 is built upon the same core code base as Windows 10," said Forrester VP and principal analyst J.P. Gownder, in an email to The Register .

"That's good news; it means that the application and driver 'breakage' that famously plagued OS releases like Windows Vista is unlikely to occur. And Win32 apps will still be able to run natively on Windows 11."

Panos Panay, chief product officer at Microsoft, opened the shaky presentation with a tear-jerker monologue likening his passion for Windows to the emotion evoked by his home and family. Then again, he usually does.

Gone are the days of feeds-and-speeds marketing it seems; Microsoft wants to be loved, and with Windows 11, the mega-corp might just rekindle the passion of fans and even turn the heads of those who have focused more on competing platforms.

Adopting Android apps and kicking Apple

The software giant surprised viewers with word that developers will be able to distribute their apps through the Microsoft Store without sharing revenue and that Windows machines will be able run Android apps.

"We also want you to be able to bring any technology, the technology that you love to the Store, whether you've already built it or you're building it now, and it's a PWA or a Win32 app, or a UWP," said Panay. "We just want to make it easier for you to bring it to the Store."

"We also want to help you build your business," he said, "whether you use the commerce engine that we help you with, and you want industry leading rev share from that, or bring your own commerce engine. And if you do bring your own commerce engine, you keep 100 per cent of your revenue, we keep zero."

[14]What Microsoft's Windows 11 will probably look like

[15]Windows 11: Meet the new OS, same as the old OS (or close enough)

[16]Stop. Look... Install Linux? The Reg solves Microsoft's latest Windows teaser

[17]We've found another reason not to use Microsoft's Paint 3D – researchers

App developers who choose to rely on Microsoft's commerce engine in the Store can keep 85 per cent of revenue, or 88 per cent for games. The Store will [18]distribute a wider range of apps too – Win32, .NET, UWP, Xamarin, Electron, React Native, Java and Progressive Web Apps. Come July 28, third-party commerce engines will be an option.

That alone ought to thrill Windows-oriented developers and vex Apple executives frantically trying to defend the need to keep iOS [19]hermetically sealed from sideloaded code. But Panay had another molotov to throw.

"Before we move on from the Store, just one more small surprise: Android apps coming to Windows," he said,"and I mean coming to Windows, they can be integrated in Start, they'll be integrated in your taskbar. … And they're discoverable through the Microsoft Store using the Amazon Appstore."

Wintel relationship is back

Pany explained that Windows will use Intel Bridge Technology to make this work, but didn't provide specifics or commit to when the Android app integration would be functional.

Intel, however, has published [20]a bit more detail : "Intel Bridge Technology is a runtime post-compiler that enables applications to run natively on x86-based devices, including running those applications on Windows," it said.

"Intel’s multi-architecture XPU strategy provides the right engines for the right workloads by integrating leading CPU cores, graphics technology, artificial intelligence accelerators, image processors and more, in a single, verified solution."

It perhaps goes without saying that Apple's Arm-based M1 chips and their successors have not been invited to this party.

Steve Kleynhans, veep of digital workplace infrastructure and operations at Gartner, told The Register in an email that Windows 11 is simultaneously a big deal and business as usual.

... it is mostly just Windows 10 with an overdue facelift and some extra under-the-covers modernizing

"On the one hand it is a big marketing event ... something to stir up excitement with consumers with the overall PC (and Windows related) ecosystem," he explained.

"It’s a rallying point for the industry – something that has been missing since Windows 10 launched 6 years ago. On the other hand it is mostly just Windows 10 with an overdue facelift and some extra under-the-covers modernizing."

Kleynhans sees Windows 11 renewing consumer and developer interest in the PC and countering the attention regularly captured by Apple.

"For businesses, it is just another feature update in the annual series of feature updates they have to deal with in the new 'Windows as a Service' world," he said. "The new UX isn't so much of a change that it would require user retraining, and the OS itself is managed and deployed, just like everything they have dealt with for the past few years."

"The biggest question for most enterprises will be when to cut over, and at this point Microsoft hasn't yet provided much detailed guidance on what the coexistence roadmap looks like."

This at least may persuade some people to flip to version 11: Cortana will no longer pop up during the first boot of the OS. Internet Explorer will be disabled, and S Mode will only be available for Windows 11 Home, too.

Microsoft is the new Apple

CEO Satya Nadella concluded the presentation with a statement of purpose that positions Microsoft – the monopolist of decades past – as the champion of openness, at least compared to its rival Apple.

"Windows recognizes that there is no personal computing without personal agency," he said. "Personal computing requires choice. We need to nurture and grow our own agency over computing itself. We want to remove the barriers that too often exist today and provide real choice and connection."

"We need to be empowered to choose the applications we run, the content we consume, the people we connect to, and even how we allocate our own attention," he said. "Operating systems and devices should mold to our needs, not the other way around."

Apple once ran [21]an ad campaign that began, "Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently."

Today, that's Microsoft. Nadella, if he's to be taken as his word, believes Windows can co-exist with Linux and Android, and be better for it.

He's acknowledging that connectivity, across the internet and the cloud, and developer relations matter more than operating system boundaries. And in throwing down a gauntlet in defense of openness, he may insulate Microsoft from anticipated antitrust rules targeting platform restrictions.

We'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Windows 11, is in fact, Android/Windows 11, or as we've recently taken to calling it, Android plus Windows 11. Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully fu... [22]pic.twitter.com/zOmNqd9dzN — The Register (@TheRegister) [23]June 24, 2021

Queen's 1978 song Bicycle Race includes a passage that goes, "I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my bike, I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride it where I like." Apple co-founder Steve Jobs extended that notion of freedom to computers, [24]stating that computers are "the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds."

But those who develop software for Apple platforms have become increasingly frustrated with the iGiant's restrictions, to the point that Epic Games sued to undo them.

Last November, Jeff Johnson, who runs Lapcat Software, [25]said via Twitter, "Apple is killing general purpose computing. No other way to put it. The bicycle for the mind becomes the bike lock."

Windows 11 is ready to ride. ®

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[1] https://twitter.com/matvelloso/status/1408080919894716416?s=20

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/windows_11_leak_microsoft/

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[7] https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2021/06/24/what-windows-11-means-for-developers/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2015/07/31/rising_and_ongoing_cost_of_windows?page=1

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[14] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/15/windows_11_leak_microsoft/

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[16] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/24/windows_teaser/

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[18] https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/06/24/building-a-new-open-microsoft-store-on-windows-11/

[19] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/23/apple_ios_sideloading_apps_congress/

[20] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-tech-unleashes-windows-experience.html

[21] https://fs.blog/2016/03/steve-jobs-crazy-ones/

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[23] https://twitter.com/TheRegister/status/1408108217448554499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[24] https://youtu.be/ob_GX50Za6c?t=79

[25] https://twitter.com/lapcatsoftware/status/1331289336948666369?s=20

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Windows

Paul Herber

Windows for Workgroups 10.11

Re: Windows

Version 1.0

LOL, unfortunately it takes a lot longer to boot and get going than Windows for Workgroups.

Re: Windows

Anonymous Coward

Just checked around the office. Only half of our PC's can support Windows 11 due to the TPM chip requirement. So that's a no-go.

So, SatNad...

Someone Else

Does the New, Improved, Win11 allow me, its lowly and oft-ignored user, to disable "telemetry"?

If so, great...I'm interested.

If not, fuck off, then.

Re: So, SatNad...

keithpeter

"We need to be empowered to choose the applications we run, the content we consume, the people we connect to, and even how we allocate our own attention,"

Well, that is what the man said.

PS: the choice of the word 'even' in that last clause really bothers me.

mark l 2

"For businesses, it is just another feature update in the annual series of feature updates they have to deal with in the new 'Windows as a Service' world,"

But this Windows 11 feature update will probably come with a financial cost to businesses as no doubt MS will only be offering the free upgrade route to home users, and enterprise customers will need to pay for Windows 11 licenses. And for them this new Windows might be coming only a couple of years after they spent a lot of time and money to migrated to Windows 10 on the MS marketing promise of that was the last ever Windows version.

What . . . why?

Throatwarbler Mangrove

"Your PC will need UEFI Secure Boot and a TPM 2.0 security chipset to run it."

I mean . . . really?

Re: What . . . why?

keithpeter

To encourage the purchase of new computers in the absence of large increases in computing power?

tpm.msc tells me that the perfectly serviceable Thinkpad X230 that my partner uses to run Windows 10, teams, zoom and her basic software has a TPM 1.2 standard chip fitted, and so will not be able to run Windows 11 if we believe the press release.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/information-protection/tpm/switch-pcr-banks-on-tpm-2-0-devices

TPM 2 devices have extra memory locations that can store a set of SHA1 hashes between boots. Perhaps some form of hardware fingerprint?

Free upgrades: anyone taking bets on an auto-upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11 failing to check the TPM standard and refusing to boot once installed?

Re: What . . . why?

Roland6

>TPM 2 devices have extra memory locations that can store a set of SHA1 hashes between boots. Perhaps some form of hardware fingerprint?

Makes sense for MS to want to store Windows licence/activation keys in the TPM.

Re: What . . . why?

Gerard Krupa

This is going to generate a huge amount of waste. Even pretty recent desktops don't have TPM 2.0 modules.

Re: What . . . why?

Andy Non

Looks like the wife's elderly Windows 10 laptop wont be upgraded to 11, but rather to Linux Mint.

Doctor Syntax

"Windows 11 has a new KDE-esque user-interface"

They've caught up!

"Win32, .NET, UWP, Xamarin, Electron, React Native, Java and Progressive Web Apps"

The really sneaky thing would have been to add iOS and/or MacOS to that list.

Nick Ryan

Typically useless "Check tool" from Microsoft... run the thing:

This PC can't run Windows 11

While this PC doesn't meet the system requirements to run Windows 11, you'll keep getting Windows 10 updates.

[Learn More]

Does the [Learn More] link tell me what about my PC does not meet the requirements of Windows 11? Like fuck it does. Just a page of requirements.

Typically similar to the all too common moronic "an error has happened" type error response (as in "we know what the error is but we're too lazy or stupid to trap it and to give information").

Android?

Anonymous Coward

Eh. MS has spent the last 25 years battling the security holes they themselves put into Windows. Do they really think they can simply wave their magic wand to add Android capability to the mix and it'll all just miraculously work and take us to rainbow-unicorn land? I've got a feeling the dark-underbelly guys are already rubbing their hands together in gleeful anticipation of the coming slaughter.

Anonymous Coward

Will it still ship with unending crapware?

Anonymous Coward

"The new UX isn't so much of a change that it would require user retraining,"

HA! You want to try working with people who moan that they can't still have XP or Widows 7 and bleat on a regular basis that they can't understand why things have to change. One day I'd love to introduce someone from M$ and the rest to the few thousand OAPs (average age 87!) I have to deal with.

karlkarl

You should carry out a user study one day. You might find that users really are faster with Windows XP.

The interface was simpler, snappier and didn't have slow fades subtly slowing down the users.

Similar user studies did show that the Win9x interface was faster than the older 3.1 interface too showing that the pinnacle was reached in early 2000s and has only been downhill since.

That said, I don't think Microsoft even has the skills to carry out proper usability studies any more.

Throatwarbler Mangrove

"You want to try working with people who moan that they can't still have XP or Widows 7 and bleat on a regular basis that they can't understand why things have to change."

You mean like a sizeable percentage of El Reg's commentards? Don't get them started on the ribbon interface, either, or you'll never hear the end of it!

Except you can't upgrade most devices running current Win10

knarf

Need a 8th Gen intel or more, tpm.

My top end surface book 1 i7 16Gb can't be upgraded.

The community is going nuts already.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/windows-11-qa/d3317d2c-d0d2-4ace-8672-a9425fce9124

I still remember VISTA, went out and bought MACs for the whole family.

Except Apple is less viable than before moving to Mx.

"Will run Android apps"...

John70

Is Windows 1 step closer to becoming full Linux?

Re: "Will run Android apps"...

Fungus Bob

One of the many missteps IBM made with OS/2 was allowing it to run Windows programs - gave developers less incentive to make native OS/2 apps and more incentive to make Windows apps.

All I want to know is...

Mike Lewis

1. Will I have another frantic battle to stop it trying to install itself on my mum's antique laptop?

2. Are all the settings in one place now?

3. Will Microsoft drop its "ready or not, here I come" installation of buggy updates at the most inopportune time?

Re: All I want to know is...

Dr. Vagmeister

"1. Will I have another frantic battle to stop it trying to install itself on my mum's antique laptop?"

Judging by the article text, and comments here, the TPM2.0 requirement probably means you have no chance of installing it even if you wanted to.

Dr. Vagmeister

From the article :

CEO Satya Nadella concluded the presentation with a statement of purpose that positions Microsoft – the monopolist of decades past – as the champion of openness, at least compared to its rival Apple.

So, Microsoft are not as bad as Apple, so they can claim being open ?. Was he laughing when he said that ?

Microsoft will always be the monopoly for PC's. They know it, and that's why they can pull the crap such as forcing you to purchase a new PC when windows 10 is unsupported.

Unless you move to Linux.

2024, the year of the Linux desktop. Hurrah.

Def

2024 - The year I retire to some beach somewhere and stop giving a shit about all this horse shit. :)

Microsoft Account required

Anonymous Coward

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications

"Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft account to complete device setup on first use."

Just no. I won't be 'upgrading'.

Not that I can having either the wrong CPU (works fine with Windows 10 currently) or old TPM version (ditto). Can't tell which as the PC Health Check doesn't give any details.

What a waste for the environment come 2025. Make it an optional Windows 10 feature update instead.

Almost Yawned

John Savard

I was going to say that it wouldn't matter if Microsoft Windows could run Android apps, if it isn't licensed for Google Play.

But then I realized that even if Google's web site for apps won't recognize a Windows 11 computer as a 'compatible device', nearly everyone with an Android app they want people to use would of course also submit it to the Microsoft Store.

So this is significant.

WHY

PiltdownMan

was El Reg SO LATE in reporting this story?

Even the BBC had it hours before you.

Re: WHY

Anonymous Coward

Because its fucking night time mate.

Ganton Scum

Forced MS Accounts? I am litterally pissing my pants in excitement!

TPM 2.0 spec is less than two years old

DS999

How can they seriously make that a requirement? Very few PCs will be upgradeable to 11, so either they will have to support Windows 10 for a decade or Apple will be supporting iPhones longer than Microsoft supports PCs.

What in the world is Microsoft thinking here?

Re: TPM 2.0 spec is less than two years old

Someone Else

What in the world is Microsoft thinking here?

You assume they're thinking? You know what happens when you assume...

Anonymous Coward

One word: underwhelming.

Anonymous Coward

Nah, Android apps on it will be good. Takes power away from Google.

Let me guess, you're a salty Linux user.

viscount

Has MS explained why Windows 11 exists at all given they clearly said Windows 10 was the final release? The real reason may be marketing, but what is the excuse? Corporate customers are not going to be thrilled with another major Windows version.

Anonymous Coward

Did you really believe them? Did you believe their marketing department was going to give up on a new marketing push every 5-10 years?

J27

Is it weird that I'm exciting about the Window Tiling features AND ONLY the Window Tiling features?

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