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Boffins show sleight-of-hand tricks to Corvids, find they are smarter than people

(2021/06/15)


Psychology boffins at the University of Cambridge have been pushing back the barriers of understanding via the unlikely-sounding practice of trying to fool birds with magic tricks.

The team of scientists from one of Britain's most august seats of learning decided to embark on [1]this project in order to test whether the birds – six [2]Eurasian Jays , formally known as Garrulus glandarius , which are chatty, strikingly coloured birds of the Corvid family – perceived the tricks in the same way that humans do, or whether their understanding of the world was fundamentally different.

The same tricks were also shown to 80 human participants to compare the reactions between the two groups.

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Eurasian Jays were chosen as they display techniques in the wild that require a certain amount of misdirection, meaning the concept is not entirely foreign to them. Like squirrels, Corvids – the family that includes crows, ravens, jackdaws, magpies and jays – are known to store food for later consumption, a technique known as caching. However, if another bird is watching them, they may pretend to put the food in several different places to reduce the chances of their rival pinching it.

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The team showed the two test groups three different sleight-of-hand magic tricks that are used by magicians to make objects seemingly appear and disappear: [6]palming , where a magician hides an object in their hand while pretending it is empty; [7]the French drop , where the magician pretends to move an object from one hand to the other, while in reality keeping it in the same hand; and the fast pass, where the magician moves an object between their hands so quickly that the audience does not see it (as seen in the tweet below).

Did someone say magic for birds?

In our new paper in [8]@PNASNews we performed three different sleight of hand effects to Eurasian jays and human participants and compared their responses

♠️🐦👐 [9]https://t.co/hij45a4EXl [10]@Dr_AlexSchnell [11]@CliveWilkins6 [12]@nickyclayton22 [13]@Cambridge_Uni [14]pic.twitter.com/IXBLD01NBt — Elias Garcia-Pelegrin (@EGarciaPelegrin) [15]June 1, 2021

According to the results of the tests, jays are actually very hard to fool with this sort of tomfoolery, seemingly because the fact they don't have hands and have no preconceptions of how they work means that they have no presumptions over what happens to the objects being supposedly passed about.

While the easily-duped human subjects were consistently fooled by all three tricks, the much smarter jays saw right through the first two – palming and the French drop – because they apparently didn't pay any attention to the trick at all and just expected the tasty worm involved to still be where it was when they last saw it.

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However, they did prove susceptible to being fooled by the fast pass. This is odd as jays, like many birds, process visual information much faster than humans and are therefore capable of picking up details humans might miss.

Elias Garcia-Pelegrin, Researcher in Comparative Cognition and Evolutionary Psychology at University of Cambridge, told The Reg : “As the trick relies on fast-paced movements... one would assume the birds would see through it. We hypothesised that in this case, the success of the effect relies, most probably, on an attention blind spot rather than the bird being unable to see the worm.”

“When the same movements are done slower or in a more exaggerated way, then the bird has no problem following,” he added, before suggesting that confirmation would require “further evidence”. Although we at The Reg feel doing this too often may lead to the bird feeling patronised and becoming sarcastic.

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Garcia-Pelegrin is himself a magician and claims he “did magic shows to pay for beers during undergrad uni”. He was one of two illusionists on the department staff who performed the tricks for the experiment, the other being his colleague Prof Clive Wilkins, the Department of Psychology's artist-in-residence and a member of the Magic Circle.

Having established that birds, or Eurasian Jays at least, would not be ideal marks for aspiring conjurors, Garcia-Pelegrin has not ruled out using his talents to try and vex more animals in the name of science.

“The more different visual systems I can perform to the better. It would then offer good comparisons,” he said.

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Suggestions that he could try to teach a crow to caw a woman in half were met with less than wholehearted enthusiasm. ®

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[1] https://www.pnas.org/content/118/24/e2026106118

[2] https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/trees-woods-and-wildlife/animals/birds/jay/

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[6] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO0_ev2cOms

[7] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJySZDJnI8w

[8] https://twitter.com/PNASNews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[9] https://t.co/hij45a4EXl

[10] https://twitter.com/Dr_AlexSchnell?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[11] https://twitter.com/CliveWilkins6?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[12] https://twitter.com/nickyclayton22?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[13] https://twitter.com/Cambridge_Uni?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[14] https://t.co/IXBLD01NBt

[15] https://twitter.com/EGarciaPelegrin/status/1399811819745722368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/07/drones_blamed_for_bird_disaster/

[17] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/24/birds/

[18] https://www.theregister.com/2021/04/15/pigeon_fanciers_fear_brexit_quarantine/

[19] https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/16/birdwatcher_lockdown_fines/

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[22] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/

Red Sceptic

Of course, they had to show us this through a tweet.

lglethal

Well there is a reason we call Psychologists "trick-cyclists"!

Here's hoping the Corvids dont start crowing about being smarter than humans...

JetSetJim

I suspect the authors will swiftly be nominated for an Ig-Nobel prize. Icon for deserved equivalent prize.

mark l 2

I saw a video narrated by Chris Packham where a corvid was up against a dog (a beagle as I recall) to solve a puzzle where they had to pull on ropes to get some food to drop. And the corvids beat the dog hands down on several attempts.

I suspect if corvids could communicate with humans they would be better conversationalists than most reality TV show stars.

GrumpenKraut

> I suspect if corvids could communicate with humans they would be better conversationalists than most reality TV show stars.

I find that pot plants are better conversationalists than reality TV show stars, without even talking.

Def

I find jam doughnuts are better conversationalists than most people regardless of their stardom. (And being a software engineer who really couldn't care less about most people or their insignificant little lives, I include myself in that category. :)

Paul Herber

Jay Leno, Jan Raven, Sheryl Crow, Homer Jay Simpson ...

they walk among us.

MOH

We need a magic show face-off between corvids and [1]orangutans

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH9swyZAE80

Bibbit

So this was that bird study everyone’s been raven about.

Bird brain ?

JimmyPage

Are avian brain cells different to mammalian ones ? Looks like they are more efficient ...

Re: Bird brain ?

JetSetJim

Perhaps not as efficient as the [1]dragonfly . Only 16 neurons for that.

[1] https://www.ted.com/talks/greg_gage_how_a_dragonfly_s_brain_is_designed_to_kill/transcript?language=en#:~:text=Now%2C%20the%20dragonfly's%20brain%20is,over%20these%20axons%20using%20electricity.

Re: Bird brain ?

Def

The neurons in a bird's brain are more tightly packed together, so their brain capacity by volume is far greater than ours.

[1]https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jun/13/bird-brained-and-proud-densely-packed-neurons-give-birds-intellectual-edge

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/jun/13/bird-brained-and-proud-densely-packed-neurons-give-birds-intellectual-edge

Anonymous Coward

> "The team of scientists from one of Britain's most august seats of learning decided to embark on this project in order to test whether the birds – six Eurasian Jays, formally known as Garrulus glandarius, which are chatty, strikingly coloured birds of the Corvid family – perceived the tricks in the same way that humans do,"

Haven't scientists learnt their lesson regarding messing with corvids? We don't want another Wuhan.

/coat

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