Pre-orders open for the Mini PET 40/80, the closest thing to Commodore's classic around
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First released in 1977 as a follow-up to the considerably simpler KIM-1, and notably designed following a rejected offer from Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak to turn the Apple II into a Commodore system, the Commodore PET (aka the Personal Electronic Transactor) was an all-in-one machine with integrated keyboard, tape deck and monitor, driven by the MOS Technology 6502 processor.
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Capable of displaying 25 lines of 40 or 80 character text, or monochrome character-based graphics, the PET launched at $795, the equivalent to around $3,503 today. Despite featuring a mere 4kB of memory – expandable to a whopping 96kB, if you had the cash – the PET proved popular and laid the groundwork for the later VIC-20 and record-breaking Commodore 64.
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Working PETs are increasingly rare, which is where Tynemouth's Mini PET family comes in. First launched last year, the Mini PET is a fully-compatible reimagining of the PET's motherboard and keyboard, considerably shrunken and using more readily-sourced modern components. As well as fitting in a real PET housing to replace failed hardware, the boards can operate as stand-alone units without the need for any original hardware at all.
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A year on, and Tynemouth's Dave Curran is back with a revised design: the Mini PET 40/80. The biggest change over the original design is right there in the name: while the first Mini PET was only capable of the 40x25 text-mode output, the upgraded design includes the ability to switch between 40x25 and 80x25, just like the real thing.
The new Mini PET 40/80 comes with 32kB of RAM – which would have been a lot back in 1977 – plus 2kB of dedicated video memory and a 28kB ROM supporting a customised BASIC, Commodore BASIC 1, 2, and 4, a file browser, a self-diagnostic system, composite and RGBi/CGA/MDA video outputs with a microcontroller-based CRT monitor controller, a piezoelectric buzzer and a bundled game selected from TFW8b's stock.
The announced stand-alone variant also includes a spiral-bound "collector's edition assembly manual" (with its creator warning that the solder-it-yourself kit is "not for the absolute beginner") and a custom mechanical keyboard designed to mimic the PET 2001's "chiclet" pad, but using Omron tactile key switches. It comes packaged in a neat transparent housing to show off the hardware inside.
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TFW8b has opened pre-orders for the Mini PET 40/80 [10]on its web store at an admittedly beyond-impulse-purchase price point of £299.99, with shipping expected to start in two weeks. A variant without keyboard and RGBi video output support, designed for replacing original PET motherboards, [11]is listed at £249.99 but is not yet available to order. Both prices include VAT. ®
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Re: The PETs inspired me.
ALSO, HOW MUCH?
£300 - plus another £50 if you want the SD card add on.
Re: The PETs inspired me.
A few years ago there was a chap selling reproduction ZX80 kits for home construction much like the original and I feel like they were about £100 or so; proportionally that makes this PET a steal.
Positive spin aside, I think the point is to use period-appropriate components, along with the custom-printed PCB, case and keyboard. So it's going to cost a bit compared to chucking an FPGA in a case and giving it a PS/2 socket.
Re: The PETs inspired me.
The PET was also the first computer I saw and touched, and that experience pretty-much sent me down a road that I'm still traveling.
I was a school-kid of about 8 and one of the children's fathers was nice enough to bring it to the school. He demonstrated a program ...
Of course, it said "Hello whats your name?" and when I typed my name it said "Hello Duncan Im pleased to meet you."
Everyone kid went "Whhooooooaaa!!" - we all thought it was both intelligent and polite.
The moment that set the course of my life came when the guy said "Who wants to see how it works?" so we all yelled "Yeah" and he typed "LIST" and we got something like this:
10 INPUT "Hello whats your name"; NAME$
20 PRINT "Hello "+NAME$+" Im pleased to meet you"
30 END
Even to a child it was obvious what had happened. And in those days (early 1980s) UK unemployment was A THING. I said to myself "I can do this ... and I will never want for work." And I was right.
I'll never forget that day, but would I buy a remade PET for the sake of nostalgia? Nah.
OK, but why?
Tynemouth huh? I started on a 32kB pet just ten miles from there. I got used to "Please press play on tape #1". I got started in software by learning to cheat at Battleships by taking out limits. But those machines were desperately slow. I just don't need something that reproduces the waiting experience. And if it doesn't then it's just a keyboard reproduction, except the one I started on in 1979(?) had the proper keyboard. It was a good trick, but that was all.
Re: OK, but why?
Why not?
Tynemouth to clever adapters, so if you had an old BBC B or other retro machine and want to use it as a USB keyboard contact them.
I learnt to type on a PET 2001 that my secondary school had - the decals had rubbed off the keyboard so you had to either know where things were or stab away until you got the desired effect.
Happy times!
KIM-1
Takes me back.
The wife had trouble with foreign language classes at uni & got a waiver to substitute assembly language programming classes.
She learned to program on a KIM-1. Hand assembly. Hex keyboard. She went on to a career as a secondary school Math and Science teacher.
I've never been prouder of her.
(except, perhaps, when she learned Morse Code to get her amateur radio license)
For some reason, we're still married, but she never mentions either of those skills in public.
Those were the days
The PET, TRS-80, ZX81….
There was something very pioneering and adventurous about using these and their like; something that has long since been sadly lost.
Ahhhhhhh…… sniff
Re: Those were the days
Indeed, nostalgia isn't what it used to be !
The PETs inspired me.
The PET was the first computer I touched. Moving to a VIC then a C64. I wouldn't be where I am today, doing what I do, without the PET.
This is just, "Meh." Sorry.
ALSO, HOW MUCH?!?!