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Now that Trump is useless to Zuckerberg, ex-president is exiled from Facebook for two years, possibly indefinitely

(2021/06/05)


Facebook on Friday announced that former US President Donald Trump will be banned from its platform until at least January 7, 2023, having deemed two-years the appropriate period of exile for statements interpreted as an effort "to provoke further violence," as CEO Mark Zuckerberg [1]put it when the ban was announced.

Trump lost access to his Facebook and Instagram accounts on January 7, 2021, "following his praise for people engaged in violence at the Capitol on January 6," said Nick Clegg, former British Deputy Prime Minister and now VP of Global Affairs, in a [2]blog post .

The ostensibly independent Facebook Oversight Board, funded by Facebook, reviewed its benefactor's decision in May and [3]concluded that the ban was justified, but said "it was not appropriate for Facebook to impose the indeterminate and standardless penalty of indefinite suspension."

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So Facebook has standardized its excommunication times for [5]public figures mouthing off amid civil unrest in a way that imperils people. The exclusion period now ranges from one month to two years for the most severe infractions.

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Even so, Trump's ban remains indefinite because it could be extended, at the discretion of Facebook.

"If we determine that there is still a serious risk to public safety, we will extend the restriction for a set period of time and continue to re-evaluate until that risk has receded," explained Clegg, adding, "Mr. Trump is and will remain free to express himself publicly via other means."

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Trump tried that recently, launching a blog in early May, only to [9]shut it down earlier this week. The ex-prez, once a click magnet for Facebook and other websites and now just a confused loser, [10]permanently lost his Twitter account on January 8, 2021.

[11]Facebook faces competition enquiry on two fronts as EU and UK officials scrutinise its ad data

[12]Big Tech has a big problem with Florida passing a law that protects politicians from web moderation

[13]WhatsApp sues India over new law requiring ‘traceability’ of messages

[14]Facebook Oversight Board upholds decision to ban Trump, asks FB to look at own 'potential contribution' to 'narrative of electoral fraud'

Last week, Republican Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed a law to prevent politicians from being deplatformed by social media companies that don't own theme parks. Amazon, Facebook, Google, and Twitter, among others, promptly [15]sued claiming the law is unconstitutional.

Facebook's renovated rules come with a commitment to be "more transparent about the decisions we make and how they impact our users."

The social ad biz said it will no longer "treat content posted by politicians any differently from content posted by anyone else" when considering content removal and will measure "whether the public interest value of the content outweighs the potential risk of harm by leaving it up."

Except Facebook it will continue to treat politicians differently: political figures will continue to be [16]exempt from having their ads or posts reviewed by its fact-checking program. A company spokesperson told The Register that policy has not changed. ®

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[1] https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10112681480907401

[2] https://about.fb.com/news/2021/06/facebook-response-to-oversight-board-recommendations-trump/

[3] https://oversightboard.com/news/226612455899839-oversight-board-upholds-former-president-trump-s-suspension-finds-facebook-failed-to-impose-proper-penalty/

[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YLtLPTyj05QDw4S6p@Sf0QAAAAg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[5] https://transparency.fb.com/enforcement/taking-action/restricting-accounts-by-public-figures/

[6] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YLtLPTyj05QDw4S6p@Sf0QAAAAg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

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[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YLtLPTyj05QDw4S6p@Sf0QAAAAg&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[9] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/02/trump-blog-page-shuts-down-for-good.html

[10] https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/04/facebook_faces_competition_enquiry_on/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/28/florida_law_social_media/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/27/whatsapp_sues_india/

[14] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/05/facebook_oversight_board_upholds_decision_trump_ban/

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/28/florida_law_social_media/

[16] https://about.fb.com/news/2019/09/elections-and-political-speech/

[17] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/

Punishment?

vtcodger

Is being banned from Facebook supposed to be some sort of punishment? If one continues to misbehave do they escalate to more severe measures such as force feeding the miscreant ice cream sundaes?

Re: Punishment?

harmjschoonhoven

You can be punished by FB in two ways. Either you are their product or you are banned.

Re: Punishment?

Michael Hoffmann

So, when I hit the delete account button two or three years ago, that was self-inflicted punishment, then?

If that's the case... I must be into this punishment thing! Yes, YES, more! I've been a baaaad boy!

*cough* sorry...

Re: Punishment?

Adelio

Not using facebook myself I do not see the issue.

In fact i am appalled at how many people still think that facebook is the way to live their lives.

Really......

Get a life, a real one.

Co-Conspirator #1

Anonymous Coward

He entitled to *one* phone call, nothing more.

Re: Co-Conspirator #1

Anonymous Coward

Phone sex with that Ukrainian?

Sic transit

Anonymous Coward

insania.

Popcorn ready

Throatwarbler Mangrove

I await the remarkably reasonable and sane comments sure to ensue in this thread.

No difference

Joe W

political figures will continue to be exempt from having their ads [...] reviewed by its fact-checking program

So normal ads are fact checked? I find this hard to believe, with many complaining about ad scam on FB. I cannot check that, because I'm not on FB. Nor will I.

Re: No difference

Chris G

"political figures will continue to be exempt from having their ads [...] reviewed by its fact-checking program"

This is so that, although a politician may be on the naughty step regarding their ability to comment, foment or dissent, they are still able to spend those all important campaign funds on advertising.

Just ignored a Trump ad

macjules

It was from a shady organisation called WWF and they wanted money from me to help the orange tanned one. Or was that an Orangutan?

Not holding my breath

chivo243

First it was a lifetime ban... then they had to rethink it, now it is 2 years, how long before the next rethink? I've never used FB, but enough sheeple do. I wonder how long it will really take for FB to cave again, and his bilge will be fed to the oh so easily swayed masses?

On the other hand ...

Flocke Kroes

I have not seen any news directly about Trump since January (well done internet!). In part that is because I read mostly "biased librul media" who will not give him any more covfefe. Even taking that account I was expecting to see something. I put some effort into preventing my search results being selected to match my preconceptions. Even there searching for recent news about him shows mostly his legal problems with no direct quotes. I had to scroll down a long way to find anything positive and that was only on the little crazy conspiracy sites dedicated to him and rt.

Trump's effectiveness at destroying the United States was limited by his ignorance and narcissism. When the Republicans find a candidate without such limitations they do not want Trump splitting the vote. Perhaps they are keeping him out of any media they control so they can get a more competent corrupt candidate nominated. If they succeed perhaps Trump's come back will get librul support - Trump was very effective at nobbling other Republican presidential candidates and he was personally responsible for a large number of votes for Biden.

Trump was the first US president to lose the popular vote twice in a row. If he stands again he should be able to get a commanding lead and hold the record for many years to come.

Two years, let me see ...

alain williams

About 1.5 years before the next election, so time to re-enable the account if Trump is going to run for president ... which means that it might be expedient to suck up to him again.

We are all born equal... just some of us are more equal than others.