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DoorDash delivery drivers try to manipulate the food biz's payment algorithm to earn a living wage in gig economy

(2021/04/08)


DoorDash drivers are encouraging one another to turn down food delivery jobs below a minimum threshold of $7 in an attempt to game the company’s in-app payment algorithm.

Food delivery platforms like DoorDash have grown during the coronavirus pandemic as restrictions on dining at restaurants have made people turn to takeout instead. Drivers, or Dashers as they’re known, in turn, fire up DoorDash's mobile phone app and are paid for each trip they make picking up food from eateries and dropping it off to customers.

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The fee for each job varies and is determined by a number of factors; there’s the base pay of the delivery task at hand that can [2]fluctuate anywhere from $2 to over $10 depending on the time and distance it will take to complete the run, as well as the job’s “desirability." On top of that, there’s also tips paid by the customer and promotions.

Drivers have figured out that they can boost the base pay by driving down the desirability. If they repeatedly decline trips in their area, the desirability value of those journeys decreases, and in turn DoorDash will try to make up for it by increasing the base pay. The idea behind the drivers' #DeclineNow campaign is that if enough of their fellow colleagues promise to reject low-paying jobs, all drivers will benefit, since the algorithm will compensate them better for their time. Every time they reject an order, it will be offered to someone else for more money, and after time, these jobs start to offer a more acceptable level of pay.

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Dave Levy and Nikos Kanelopoulos launched the campaign in a [5]private Facebook group in 2019, and it has grown to tens of thousands of members, Bloomberg [6]reports . Dashers are advised to decline all jobs that pay less than $7 to maintain pay levels.

Another driver, Amy Lee, said that a worker who only accepted jobs that were at least $6 or paid about $1.35 for every mile could make an average of at least $20 every hour if they worked for eight and a half hours. [7]For comparison , a driver who accepted every job offered over the same amount of time would make several dollars less, depending on the cost per mile.

Old code flaw

Before accepting a gig, drivers see how much the order will pay them, though the customer tip, if paid beforehand, [8]isn't broken out .

Dashers, however, have figured a trick to see the full tip they’re being offered by downloading an older 5.68.1 version of the app on an Android-powered phone. Next, they have to disable Google Play app store, sign into the app, and then go back and enable Google Play. A widget on their home screen will then reveal the total amount of a particular job with the full amount of tips, [9]according to Vice. This means Dashers can decline orders with miserly tips.

Gaming DoorDash’s payment algorithm, however, depends on the collective effort of local drivers. These tactics also might not work as well where there just aren’t that many jobs going around. Although Lee supports the idea that drivers should be picky about what jobs they choose to accept, she believes that trying to manipulate software is only a short-term solution to pay.

“They believe that if everyone declines by their rules, it will 'force' the algorithm up and everyone will automatically be paid more money,” she wrote on a [10]website describing the #DeclineNow movement. “Umm… Algorithms are likely changing a little at a time, daily. Maybe multiple times a day. DoorDash can LITERALLY change the algorithm on a whim so thinking you can force a $16+ billion company to pay you more is naive.”

Instead, in an [11]open letter to DoorDash she urged the company to increase the base pay for all deliveries above its $2 to $3 minimum. The Register has asked Lee for further comment.

DoorDash obviously disapproves of the tactics behind the campaign. “Declining orders repeatedly can lead to increased wait times for customers and for Dasher, which can lead to lower earnings for Dashers over time and negative experiences for customers,” a spokesperson told El Reg . “We are proud of the flexible earning opportunity DoorDash provides and always welcome feedback from Dashers on ways we can better serve them."

The company also claimed that on average drivers earn over $22 per hour on deliveries in the US. “DoorDash is committed to providing fair and equitable earning opportunities for all Dashers. We work hard to ensure Dashers are active and earning on our platform, and know that on average nationally, Dashers earn over $22 per hour they’re on a delivery. When placing an order, customers select their tip amount.”

"Before accepting or declining an order, Dashers see a guaranteed, minimum amount they will earn, and after they complete an order, they see the full pay breakdown for that delivery in their app, including base pay, promotions, and 100 per cent of their tips.

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"This helps ensure that Dashers who rely on DoorDash for consistent earnings have an equal chance at high value deliveries. This also provides all Dashers with full transparency into their earnings." ®

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[2] https://help.doordash.com/dashers/s/article/How-is-Dasher-pay-calculated?language=en_US

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[4] https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/04/california_election_propositions/

[5] https://www.facebook.com/groups/543481386410567/

[6] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-06/doordash-workers-are-trying-to-game-the-algorithm-to-increase-pay

[7] https://declinenow.org/drivers/?v=47e5dceea252

[8] https://www.reddit.com/r/doordash/comments/g00u10/do_dashers_see_the_tip_before_the_delivery_will/

[9] https://www.vice.com/en/article/3anwdy/organized-doordash-drivers-declinenow-strategy-is-driving-up-their-pay

[10] https://declinenow.org/drivers/?v=47e5dceea252

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[13] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/

Sharecropper economy

Anonymous Coward

In real sharecropping, the landlord & sharecropper share the risk and share the rewards, with the landlord taking on an additional risk if the crop fails. In real sharecropping, the landlord fronts the money for owning the property & for planting the next crop, the sharecropper does the work, and the landlord & sharecropper share in the proceeds of the crop sale. If the landlords proceeds from the crop sale does not cover the landlords costs, he absorbs the loss. The sharecropper does not incur any debt. Obviously the goal is for both the landlord & sharecropper to make money and this system has them co-invest in the crop, albeit in different "currencies", and share the investment risk.

The digital sharecropper economy ah la Uber, Doordash or Airbnb, is vastly more abusive to the "sharecropper" than in real sharecropping. In the digital sharecropper economy, the "digital landlord" takes on zero risk and simply skims cash off the cash flow. The "digital landlord" thus makes money regardless of the profit & loss of the "digital sharecropper". The "digital sharecropper" takes on 100% of the risk both in terms of capital investment (owning & maintaining a car or property) and in terms of operating profit/loss.

The "digital sharecropper economy" is vastly more abusive to the sharecropper than in real sharecropping, and so the digital versions are giving the real version a bad name.

Re: Sharecropper economy

Jim Mitchell

This seems a rather ... optimistic ... description of "real sharecropping".

IceC0ld

$16 BILLION Co 'proud' to say it is allowing Dashers to make $22 an hour ................

the reality is it should be the Dashers make sufficient that they can have a life, that $22 will not include thee outgoings like fuel for the transport etc

all it takes is one Co to decide that they make enough, and profit share the rest

and it WAS done in days gone past

Sir Titus Salt moved his Co out of the polluted cities and into the fresh green country, he built a town - Saltaire - he paid his people way over what the opposition were paying, realising that if his employees were happy, they would work better, he allowed real money to be used in his town, and had outside Co's come in to help and support the workforce, built schools and hospitals too.

up until then, most Co towns were like a prison, employees were paid in Co coins, that could only be used in Co shops in the town ffs

TL/DR

there IS a better way, we just lost the vision, when the money blocked their sight :o(

Yet Another Anonymous coward

>there IS a better way, we just lost the vision, when the money blocked their sight :o(

Unfortunately we can no longer force India to only buy cloth from us.

Richocet

If the majority of delivery people refuse to take low paying jobs, then it will push up the average price. This is common in other market places. It's not really gaming the algorithm. And the algorithm is nothing mysterious, it-s just another calculation of market prices.

If Doordash are unhappy with the waiting times experienced by customers then this is also fixed by the delivery drivers being offered higher prices which they will rapidly accept and action.

There is no solution to get fast delivery cheaply without exploitation. Anything that looks like it solves that 'problem' is just disguising the exploitation.

Freedom is what you do with what's been done to you.
-- Jean-Paul Sartre