Want your broadband fixed? Best write to your MP, UK's Zen Internet tells customer
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2021/02/18/write_mp_to_fix_zen_internet/
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The suggestion was made to one El Reg reader in North Leatherhead who contacted the Rochdale-based ISP after experiencing repeated disconnections and a marked slump in network performance.
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Alan Brown, a network manager at University College London, told us he had experienced no less than 28 breaks in service on 16 February, adding: "I am paying for 80Mbps service and am currently getting 16Mb/s with loads of DSL carrier drops."
In response, Zen Internet passed the buck to its infrastructure provider Openreach.
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"I've looked into this issue for you, and I'm afraid that we will not be able to raise a DSO in this case, as Openreach will not accept it. This is because our relationship with Openreach is one of supply and repair where we will supply a service on the line, and repair it if it breaks. However, our relationship doesn't extend to infrastructure issues such as this," the company rep said.
"The best way forward would be to report this to your local MP, who will hopefully be able to get this issue addressed," the Zen rep added.
The acronym "DSO" refers to Openreach's Directors Service Office, which is the highest point within the infrastructure provider's fault escalation procedures. It is reserved for the most pressing issues such as those likely to cause reputational or financial damage for Openreach's downstream providers, or pose a risk to public health and safety. It's understood the DSO can also respond to requests made from MPs acting on behalf of their constituents.
Openreach itself says [3]on its website that as a wholesaler, it is "set up to work for communications providers – the companies that you buy your home or business phones or broadband from. Contacting them is the fastest way to fix a whole range of problems." However, the nation's broadband plumber adds, "if they think the issue is with our network, they’ll contact us and arrange for us to fix it."
Brown, who has worked in the telecoms business for several decades, speculated the problem may be caused by water damage to a nearby cabinet.
"This is an ancient ECI cabinet and the lines here have been problematic forever (lead sheathed paper insulated - which might give an idea of the age)," he told me.
"On top of that it turns out the DSLAM cabinets can be latched closed without properly buttoning up the weatherproofing - and as a result, water damage has occurred/is occurring in a number of the things (including mine). The situation here has been a story of: 'rotten weather, DSL goes intermittent/rotten for weeks, then clears up with the weather and then stays OK until the next round of bad weather'," he added.
Zen definitely isn't known for bad customer service. Between 2016 and 2019, it was the recommended broadband provider of consumer champion Which?, regularly [4]scoring high marks for customer satisfaction . The outfit was also [5]dubbed Britain's best internet provider in 2020 by Broadband Genie, handily trouncing larger competitors like BT and Virgin Media.
The ISP has since made an about-face and said told Brown it will submit a DSO request to Openreach. In a statement provided to The Register , Mike Piggott, operations director at Zen Internet, said:
“We pride ourselves on our reliable customer service and this case obviously falls short of our high standards. We can confirm due to an initial mix up on the Director Services Office (DSO) escalation process, that a DSO case was not opened, but this has since been rectified. Furthermore, we are in direct contact with the customer to keep him updated and have initiated refresher training for our support team on DSO criteria and how such cases should be handled.”
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Why the change of heart? An inquiry to Zen PR firm from this humble Liverpudlian telecoms journalist? Or did Brown's insistence on copying Zen Internet CEO Paul Stobart into all our correspondence have something to do with it? Hmmmm. We may never know. ®
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Re: We may never know
Zen have been rubbish for a while now. I had a couple of issues with them a year or so ago (just before lockdown) and while they always answered the phone quickly, I was never able to get any sense out of them. Lots of "oh, the person who was dealing with you is out of the office" and having to explain the issue over and over, it was as if they had no ticket system for dealing with ongoing issues.
They've now joined the legion of companies still using Covid-19 as an excuse to provide slow responses and not answer the phone. This sort of excuse always looks a little thin when the company is literally in the comms business. They are going to find themselves having retention issues if they charge AAISP money for TalkTalk service.
Lead and Paper.
Ye Gods! I remember seeing that stuff as a kid! I'm astonished there's any left at all. By 1960 it was all going plastic, and now even the evil copper coated steel figure of 8 stuff is disappearing.
Sounds familiar
I've had Openreach out 6 times since December to fix a similar sounding issue. Each time the engineer claims to have fixed something stupid done by the last guy. Currently it's stable but I'm waiting for the speed to start dropping again and then the frequent disconnects. Openreach are poor.
Nope.
Sorry Zen. Your customer, your problem. End Of. Don't pass the buck in this shitty manner.
If I was the customer I would take this and raise an official complaint. No joy, small claims court.
Orange Internet (as it was back then) tried a similar stunt, only the court paper work got them to fix the issue and also compensate for the losses..and got me out of the contract.
Clearly a maintenance schedule issue
" This is an ancient ECI cabinet and the lines here have been problematic forever (lead sheathed paper insulated ... "
If this is true, then Openreach is guilty of not having upgraded that thing in due course. Openreach just let it rot to avoid the costs of ensuring proper service.
I'm guessing that a new cabinet costs a pretty penny, for sure, but unless I'm mistaken, Openreach is making a lot of pretty pennies. Time to drop one and make your service better.
Oh, and you might want to take stock of the age of all your cabinets and start planning their replacement dates.
We may never know
either, or, both. No matter, it appears to make the impossible ("MP issue", aka magnetic pulse / minion probe) into possible :(
p.s. did you say he was with TalkTalk? VM? BT? It's so reassuring to see that Zen Internet has FINALLY joined the rest of the merry customer disservice crew :)