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Leave.EU takes back control – and shifts its domain name to be inside the European Union

(2021/01/08)


Faced with a stark choice between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the evil technocracy of the EU's Brussels dictatorship, plucky little campaign group Leave.EU was only ever going to make one choice.

That's right. It domiciled itself in the European Union. Ireland (the Republic of), no less.

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The Irish Times [2]spotted yesterday that Leave.EU, which brought such characters as Arron Banks and Andy Wigmore to the British political conversation, has registered its eponymous web domain in an EU state – seemingly to avoid losing its name altogether.

Faced with the hideous prospect of jackbooted EU commissars [3]grinding their online faces into the dirt forever , Leave.EU, doyennes of this nation of shopkeepers, heirs to Radio 4 and cricket and the White Cliffs of Dover, bravely took back control – and moved their moniker firmly within the European Union's legal and political domain.

The domain name leave-dot-EU, set up in the name of Brexit-supporting businessman Banks, is now, [4]according to The Guardian , "registered in the name of Sean Power, the chief executive of the Ireland-based professional services company BSG."

Barmy ban on businesses, Brits based in Blighty bearing or buying .eu domains is back: Cut-off date is Jan 1, 2021 [5]READ MORE

When The Grauniad asked Mr Powers why he, a resident of Waterford in the Republic of Ireland, was now the registered owner of Leave-dot-EU, the response was more Maggie Thatcher's handbag than GDPR. Powers told the paper he was not involved with the pro-Brexit campaign group and that he would be "looking into the matter" of why his name was on their domain registration.

As reported by El Reg over the past few years, the dot-EU top-level domain (TLD) has become a political football, with domain registry EURid trying to keep up with the ever-changing whims of the bloc's leaders. On 1 January, the British owners of 81,000 dot-EU domains awoke to find they had stopped working [6]thanks to an EU rule change – the third within two years – meaning that only EU citizens or residents of a EU country could own a dot-EU domain.

Those rules had repeatedly changed during the Brexit transition period as the 27-member political bloc argued over who could operate websites from a particular top-level domain. The number of British-registered dot-EU domains dropped from around 300,000 to 81,000 at the time of writing, and will doubtless drop further. The move hurts the domain registry by cutting EURid's income from registration fees.

As several readers have pointed out, there is a loophole in that the domains can be registered to British holders if they are also EU citizens, (independently of their [7]"place of residence" ).

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While the domain rules were hardly written on the side of a bus, after this titbit nobody can doubt Leave.EU's [9]Churchillian commitment to core principles. Or, at least, its snappy-but-unwise domain name. ®

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[1] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_datacentre/networks&sz=300x250%7C300x252%7C300x600&tile=3&c=33X-iPpW@WxhEdCE57L9DAUQAAAhc&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[2] https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/pro-brexit-campaign-leave-eu-relocates-to-waterford-1.4452308

[3] https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/05/brexit_81000_eu_domains/

[4] https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/07/leaveeu-leaves-britain-after-brexit

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/04/eu_domain_ban/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/04/eu_domain_ban/

[7] https://eurid.eu/en/register-a-eu-domain/rules-for-eu-domains/

[8] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_datacentre/networks&sz=300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251&tile=4&c=44X-iPpW@WxhEdCE57L9DAUQAAAhc&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[9] https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/speeches/1946-1963-elder-statesman/united-states-of-europe/

[10] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/

So Leave have left?

Version 1.0

Why didn't they simply buy the Leave.UK domain, it's available for sale and moving those .EU domains that the Tories hated to .UK domain names was the plan wasn't it? Surely they want to take control of their domain and move it to the .UK?

Re: So Leave have left?

Brewster's Angle Grinder

How much longer before the .UK domain has to be dissolved?

Re: So Leave have left?

xpz393

If only they would leave.uk :)

Re: So Leave have left?

Phil O'Sophical

Why didn't they simply buy the Leave.UK domain,

Or stay.uk ?

.eu domains

macjules

Doesn't the organisation itself have to be registered within the EU to qualify for the .eu domain or is it enough to just have a Dublin address? Currently it is still registered at 2430/2440 The Quadrant, Aztec West, Bristol, BS32 4AQ

Re: .eu domains

Anonymous Coward

The registrant is in .ie, so they fit the criterion:

https://whois.eurid.eu/en/search/?domain=leave.eu

Surely now they need to bring themselves up to date...

msknight

...and try to register left.eu ?

Re: Surely now they need to bring themselves up to date...

Anonymous Coward

It was too late even before Brexit :D

https://whois.eurid.eu/en/search/?domain=left.eu

Re: Surely now they need to bring themselves up to date...

Fruit and Nutcase

...and just in case, register letusback.eu

Re: Surely now they need to bring themselves up to date...

PerlyKing

...and try to register left.eu ?

And risk looking like a load of lefties?

Re: Surely now they need to bring themselves up to date...

Anonymous Coward

alt.right.eu?

Anonymous Coward

"As several readers have pointed out, there is a loophole in that the domains can be registered to British holders if they are also EU citizens, (independently of their "place of residence")."

So now a loophole is something that's explicitly listed as a feature? ElReg is really contorting itself to find issues with how .eu is handled :D

"*You are an individual: [...] a citizen of one of the European Union Member States."

https://eurid.eu/en/register-a-eu-domain/

Anonymous Coward

This isn't the Brexit I voted for!

Anonymous Coward

I voted for B o r is exit.

A.P. Veening

Nice one, unfortunately he didn't get the hint.

EURid

GioCiampa

Should be a leaver campaign group, surely...?

Doctor Syntax

"snappy-but-unwise domain name"

But very consistent in their forward thinking.

But why?

Teiwaz

The UK has left. I really can't see the Business case for any continued need for it.

Apart from perhaps to field any complaints from those dissatisfied with the end result..

Re: But why?

Cederic

"Why did the UK leave the EU?" "Here, there's a website that has several years of articles and commentary that represents many of the arguments used."

Whether you agree with the campaign or not it's historical evidence, so why not keep it? The domain name is itself part of that history, as well as a familiar reference.

Of course, the other option is to use that domain to promote leaving the EU within other countries. Maybe only English speaking ones though...

Re: But why?

Anonymous Coward

"Maybe only English speaking ones though..."

English had become the common language of the EU - and will probably continue so.

Can he keep it?

TheFifth

If this domain is now registered to Sean Power, could he legally take control and repoint it?

....and the beat goes on.............

Anonymous Coward

Dyson --- Moved to Singapore

Ratcliffe -- Moved to Monaco and moved Land Rover Defender production to France

Farage -- family have German passports

Martin -- can't name a single EU law he dislikes (link: https://www.joe.co.uk/politics/brexit-tim-martin-owen-jones-217024)

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.....and the beat goes on........all these Brexit boosters are hypocrites......why is anyone surprised about the internet URL?

Re: ....and the beat goes on.............

Disgusted Of Tunbridge Wells

Try reading the article again you absolute weapon.

Re: ....and the beat goes on.............

Miss Config

Careful Now. We don't want anybody thinking you're a Brexiteer yourself.

Re: ....and the beat goes on.............

R Soul

You forgot Jacob Rees-Mogg, the MP for the 18th century. He's moved his investment/stockbroking business to Dublin.

And now Daddy Johnston is getting himself a French passport.

Re: ....and the beat goes on.............

A.P. Veening

Apparently he didn't pass on his smarts to his offspring. And as he voted against Brexit, it is more or less logical with a French parent.

Re: ....and the beat goes on.............

Anonymous Coward

"[...] it is more or less logical with a French parent."

Watch for Boris claiming the same with his French grandparent.

chocolate fireguard

Anonymous Coward

Never really understood .eu domain, bought ours just to cover ip at the time but with the advent of .anything gave up doing that.

Didn't bother renewing it last year and won't lose any sleep over it.

Can't remember ever being on an .eu site, I guess it might find use at sometime in the future

But as a domain generally its fairly pointless other than to say based in the eu and .de .fr etc does that. I guess its the equivalent of .us, enough said.

Now that day wearies me,
My yearning desire
Will receive more kindly,
Like a tired child, the starry night.

Hands, leave off your deeds,
Mind, forget all thoughts;
All of my forces
Yearn only to sink into sleep.

And my soul, unguarded,
Would soar on widespread wings,
To live in night's magical sphere
More profoundly, more variously.
-- Hermann Hesse, "Going to Sleep"