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You've got to be shipping me: KatherineRyan.co.uk suggests the comedian has diversified into freight forwarding

(2020/12/11)


Comedian Katherine Ryan has found her eponymous website redirected to an Australian shipping company following a domain expiry.

It's normally the certificates that catch people out, but it seems Ryan had a chum deal with the website – an ideal arrangement at the time, we're sure, but less than handy when things turn sour.

In this case, according to Ryan, a friend is divorcing the person who ran the site and, as she observed: "THIS COULD BE A LOT WORSE."

It’s a long story but my friend is currently divorcing the person who makes my website SO THIS COULD BE A LOT WORSE TBH [1]https://t.co/7pWrkoFKNH — Katherine Ryan (@Kathbum) [2]December 10, 2020

It certainly could. Although a glance at the urban dictionary indicates that "shipping" is not an entirely innocent word nowadays either.

Register reader Gordon Lawrie spotted the oopsie and directed us to the Whois resources, which showed the domain expiring in August. It was eventually picked up in November (by the marvellously named Domeinwinkel, judging by the records), although we're not entirely sure when it began to be used for the freight company, Cargo Masters.

Ryan reckoned the situation could be sorted, if not for that pesky relationship issue.

It’s not even his career, he just did it cause he knew how. And I’m sure he would fix it but I don’t speak to him because I’m enemies with my friends’ enemies. — Katherine Ryan (@Kathbum) [3]December 10, 2020

Lawrie, a cyberlaw and trademark student, undertook some further sleuthing and told us: "From what I can see, the website was originally built by Baker Creative Design Consultants Ltd. On 19/09/2017 the domain was moved from their nameservers to 123Reg, and the Internet Archive shows that the site lost their credit around that time, so it appears that that is when the friend's ex took control. From there the domain expired on the 21st of August 2020, was dropped on 17th September 2020 and was finally deleted and grabbed by CatchTiger.com on the 17th November 2020. They then appear to have sold it on on the 18th of November."

He came up empty as to exactly when the forwarding began, or why: "I've not been able to ascertain when it started advertising Aussie Freight services," he said, "though given the current lockdown strangling the performing arts and Brexit meaning that trade with the other side of the world is going to be more important, maybe it's not such an outlandish area for the new owner to diversify into."

Indeed, while it may occasionally seem (to UK viewers at least) that Ryan has reached levels of ubiquity on television panel shows that her peers can only dream of, it would be fair to say that the entertainment industry has had a grim 2020. A bit of diversification is probably on the cards for many performers.

As for Ryan, her representatives directed The Register to the comedian's social media feed, where she seemed to be getting into the spirit of things.

Sorry, I only do large freight — Katherine Ryan (@Kathbum) [4]December 10, 2020

And CargoMaster? It did not immediately respond to our enquiry. UK-based readers seeking tickets for Ryan's 2021 tour of the country can find them [5]here unless some international shipping is truly what you desire. ®

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[1] https://t.co/7pWrkoFKNH

[2] https://twitter.com/Kathbum/status/1337036795394076675?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[3] https://twitter.com/Kathbum/status/1337041259102396420?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[4] https://twitter.com/Kathbum/status/1337042288099332096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[5] https://www.livenation.co.uk/artist/katherine-ryan-tickets?omq=katherine

[6] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/

website redirected to an Australian shipping company

Brewster's Angle Grinder

Ahhh, another benefit of an Australian-style Brexit! Getting in the spirit, earlier I see.

Re: website redirected to an Australian shipping company

Warm Braw

In Boris-speak an Australian shipping company is one that has been contracted by Chris Grayling.

Re: website redirected to an Australian shipping company

Anonymous Coward

I assume she gives Canadian conditions... which are apparently superior????

Can somebody explain the economics?

Silas S. Brown

I find this hard to understand: why would someone pay good money to buy an expiring domain and then redirect it to a completely irrelevant business? Yes there might be a small number of new customers from those "oh look where my old link or bookmark takes me now" moments, but are we really talking about enough profit to justify the cost of doing this? And if what they really want is to sell the domain to a higher bidder later, then they don't make it at all obvious it's for sale. Or could the redirection just be a front for some more clandestine operation that somehow requires a long-established domain?

The same thing happened to homenet.org in 2017. That one used to be a hobbyist dynamic DNS site for home servers (with 105 users), but when it expired, DropCatch sold the name to a certain resident of Kiev who somehow thought it was worth bidding 2,060 US dollars just to redirect it to a list of hotels in Vienna. Apparently that buyer paid similar amounts to win other domains and redirect them to random other hotel sites. And yet I don't think any of the old Homenet users are going to say "wow, I should book a trip to Vienna" instead of "bother, the server I wanted has moved". How can it possibly be worth paying thousands of dollars per domain to redirect that kind of traffic?

(I suppose buyers might think there is a small possibility of gaining a little extra Google PageRank from other sites that fail to update old links to the domain they bought, but is this negligible PageRank really worth over 2000 dollars? How many non-updating incoming links did they think HomeNet had?)

Re: Can somebody explain the economics?

ThomH

I've always assumed it's a way for the domain-name squatters to earn an extra few pennies, presumably there's some service somewhere you can throw a small amount of money at for them to redirect some of the domains they're sitting upon for some period of time?

The one domain name I've ever given up, which I didn't even use, is now under the ownership of such a company and would apparently cost me $2,400 to buy back. Given that I'm not interested, and I don't imagine anybody else would be, maybe this is how they'll squeeze back some of the £10 or whatever that they invested in the hope that I might pay?

Re: Can somebody explain the economics?

Silas S. Brown

I can understand why they'd do that if it cost them £10, but I still don't understand how anyone thinks it's worth $2,060 to do that. Unless they plan to do something else later, but homenet.org is still redirecting to Hotels in Vienna after more than 3 years. Seems like the catcher companies have a good business from highly-speculative investors though.

I'm glad you asked this question

Dabooka

I was thinking I was missing something really obvious but apparently not.

I can see the logic if the name was similar, if it was the same but a different TLD, even if it was a competitor (for sport and general amusement) but otherwise what is the point?

Boringly, winkel = shop in Dutch

CT

and domein = domain obvs.

mark l 2

I believe having links from a popular website that ranks well on Google search pointing your own relatively obscure website, will give your obscure website a boost in Googles ranking.

So I suspect that with Katherine Ryan being relatively well known now her website would have be well ranked on Google and thus this shipping company would find its website doing better in Google searches after getting all those links now pointing to it.

I am not expert on SEO but I remember reading that a while ago, and with Googles search algorithm changing all the time this may no longer be the case

james_smith

Any potential benefit would probably be negated by Google downgrading websites that have multiple domain names pointing to them unless the only differ by TLD.

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