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Today's tech giants won't be as naive as I was in DoJ dealings, says former Microsoft chief Bill Gates

(2020/10/22)


Microsoft co-founder and long-serving ex-CEO Bill Gates has admitted naivety in his dealings with Washington around the software giant’s [1]fabled antitrust case with the US Department of Justice (DoJ).

But, as Google set out to defend itself against DoJ claims levelled against it this week, the latter-day philanthropist of Redmond fame [2]told CNBC the tech giants are unlikely to make similar errors to him.

In a not-so-veiled reference to Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon, Gates said: “Whenever you get to be [a] super valuable company [having] political discourse mediated through your system and a higher percentage of commerce go through your system, you're going to expect a lot of government attention. I was naive at Microsoft and didn’t realise that our success would lead to government attention and so I made some mistakes in saying, ‘Hey, I never go to Washington DC’.”

But times have changed, he said.

“Now, I don't think that naivety is there. These companies have lots of sophisticated advisors and they've tried to engage

with lawmakers

in various ways but the rules will change,” he said.

The suffering heaped on hundreds of millions of Americans struggling through the COVID-19 pandemic and its related restrictions could be reflected in the political optics of the case, at a time when tech industry figureheads have seen [3]astronomical increases in their wealth .

“It is kind of poignant that the tech companies have done so well at a time when things are very tough and so that's an element of the increased attention,” Gates claimed.

On Tuesday, US Department of Justice launched [4]its antitrust case against Google , saying the dominant search company was unlawfully protecting its search monopoly through “anti-competitive and exclusionary practices”.

With echoes of [5]Microsoft’s DoJ case , which began in 1998 and hinged on whether the Redmond giant was using its dominance in desktop operating systems to gain unfair advantage in the browser market, the federal legal team said Google was the “monopoly gatekeeper to the internet for billions of users and countless advertisers worldwide.”

“For years, Google has accounted for almost 90 per cent of all search queries in the United States and has used anti-competitive tactics to maintain and extend its monopolies in search and search advertising,” the DoJ said.

Although it does not explicitly say it is seeking to break up Google, the DoJ did ask for "structural relief as needed to cure any anticompetitive harm."

The DoJ is also pursuing the line that saw Microsoft lose in its initial DoJ ruling. The department is arguing that Google makes its search engine the default on billions of devices, preventing the pre-installation of services from competitors.

Gates backed some government success in clipping the wings of the tech giants, although the details would have to wait, he said.

Google screwed rivals to protect monopoly, says Uncle Sam in antitrust lawsuit: We go inside the Sherman parked on a Silicon Valley lawn [6]READ MORE

“We're in unchartered territory here. For a lot of industries like the railroad industry or the movie industry, [the government] created special policies that they thought were effective for competition. This is a new industry with different issues and so to get it right, will take a lot of a lot of good thinking. But, I'd say the chances of them doing something is pretty high,” he said.

Not everyone is convinced the chips are currently stacked in the DoJ's favour, however, due to the [7]speed at which the case was strung together .

How Gates can see the tech industry’s monopoly problems as somehow new is anyone’s guess.

What does everyone make of today's Google antitrust action? Only the stock market is happy with the status quo [8]READ MORE

After initially ruling for the breakup of Microsoft, the [9]DoJ later reached a settlement that saw Microsoft share APIs with third parties - this was little more than a slap on the wrist.

Whether the DoJ can meet out sterner punishment to Google could depend on political unity.

In partisan times, the signs are not good. The Justice Dept's lawsuit against Google is joined by 11 state attorneys general – all Republican. Last month, only Democrats supported a Congressional report that accused tech giants of abuse of their market power, even though both sides were largely in agreement. Meanwhile, a second group of state attorneys general, a mix of Dems and Republicans, are preparing a separate antitrust case against Google. ®

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[1] https://www.theregister.com/1998/10/20/microsoft_on_trial/

[2] https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/10/14/bill-gates-big-tech-regulation-squawk-box.html

[3] https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/18/pandemic_billionaires/

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/20/us_google_antitrust/

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2000/06/19/ten_years_hard_microsofts_long/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/20/us_google_antitrust/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/20/us_google_antitrust/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/20/google_lawsuit_reaction/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2001/11/06/all_you_ever_wanted/

[10] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/

Still the same liar, then

Anonymous Coward

> didn’t realise that our success would lead to government attention

By success I think he means underhanded tactics to exclude competitors.

Some philanthropist! Just redistributing pennies of the money ripped off from others.

Re: Still the same liar, then

Snake

It's the Carnegie Capitalist mentality: capitalism is good, more capitalism is better, and anything done to attain the apex of those goals - from worker subjugation to market manipulation - is all part of the game.

We'll fix our historical legacy by doing good will projects with the monies that we rampantly abused out of the system, after we decide that we've had enough and walk off the playing field (note the consistence of the paradigm).

Indeed, it's all part of the game. All's Fair in Love and War, and Business is War to them. Anything goes, because anything can be justified away for the sake of those profit reports. Enron, Worldcom, Standard Oil...it's all the same, rinse and repeat, because our societies have been brainwashed by the PTB that money is all that talks. A little bit of slight of hand , to make things work "better" (for them, at least), is quite OK.

We, the human condition, will never get anywhere unless and until we learn to move past that, to see the lives behind the numbers on those quarterly spreadsheets, and realize that it is THEY that matter, not your little paper slips with printings of famous people on them.

Re: Still the same liar, then

Anonymous Coward

> 'I didn’t realise that our success sustained predatory and abusive monopolistic behaviour would lead to government attention'

is what he meant to say

Maximum Delfango

The US government told Microsoft they had to break up Windows. They've definitely done 50% of that.

don't you hate it when you lose your account

For me the User Interface has been 80% knackered

Marketing Hack

I still believe that there is a secret clause in the DoJ/MS agreement that, in order to encourage competition, requires MS to make every second version of desktop Windows a bloated, resource-hogging piece of crap.

Naive?

Gene Jones

Gates got away scot-free with his monopolistic practices, at least here in the US.

Take Care ...... Swampy Fields Ahead.

amanfromMars 1

Sound advice to governments ...... stay well clear of entanglements opposing, and even competing against tech giants.

Microsoft is Still a monopoly

Peter-Waterman1

They still are dominant on their Desktop and they keep changing the licencing laws for Cloud to force Azure down peoples throat. Nothing is changed, Nadela is a 15 yr insider with Msft DNA in his body.

Hey, diddle, diddle the overflow pdl
To get a little more stack;
If that's not enough then you lose it all
And have to pop all the way back.