Director of nuisance-calls company ordered to cough up £114k after ignoring £40k fine from UK data watchdog
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When the ICO handed IT Protect Ltd a "monetary penalty notice" back in 2017 for making nuisance sales phone calls, it appears few were expecting the chain of events set off by the fine.
Insolvency and Companies Court Judge Sally Barber ordered Warren Pye to repay a total of £114,508, revealing in a detailed judgment handed down on 25 September how Bognor Regis-based IT Protect Ltd simply ignored its 2017 fine and continued funnelling cash to its director, his partner, and his brother even after the ICO secured a winding-up order against the firm.
IT Protect was set up in 2013 by Pye, described by the judge as "a bricklayer who left school at 16", after his brother Steven Montague "had a good idea for a new business". Montague's plan was to buy lists of phone numbers and, ironically, ring them to sell call-blocking devices. He asked Pye to be the new company's registered director because of his own "bad credit history".
People receiving those calls complained – with many telling the ICO they were registered with the Telephone Preference Service, which is supposed to filter out unsolicited calls. After 157 complaints were registered against IT Protect between April 2015 and May 2016, with 69 of those being ignored when regulators forwarded them to IT Protect, the ICO stepped in and issued its £40,000 fine in January 2017.
IT Protect [1]appealed against the fine , issued under the EU-derived Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations, and lost. By March 2017 it had ceased trading, though cash continued to flow into its bank account until November. At the end of that month the ICO [2]served a winding-up petition against IT Protect, which was successful. The company then entered liquidation.
"At the date of winding up, the Company had nil known assets and its only creditor was the ICO, owed £40,000," said Judge Barber, noting that when the winding-up was completed in February 2018 "all [other] creditors of the Company (including employees) had been paid except the ICO".
Clawing back the cash
In an email shown to the court, IT Protect directors – Pye, Montague, and his sister Dawn – told the liquidators: "The ICO penalty was not paid due to having to pay other creditors including hmrc and as far as we where [sic] concerned this was completely unjust! As all information was sent to them."
Meanwhile, £22,240 was withdrawn in cash from IT Protect's bank account between February and December 2017. Pye was "sole signatory of the Company's bank account", as the judge found. A further £41,668.50 was paid out to various other people and companies, including £3,700 on "bakery/catering equipment" (Dawn Montague worked in "catering"), and £8,682 in "extra salary payments" after IT Protect ceased trading.
As all this money was flowing out, the ICO's liquidators were racking up bills. A [3]progress report filed with Companies House in May this year revealed accounting firm Mazars LLP had run up costs of £40,050.50 while Chiron Recovery Ltd ran up "time costs" of £45,742.75.
The total cost of the liquidation between FY2018/19 and FY2019/20 was given as £137,980.95. IT Protect's £40,000 fine has therefore cost more than three times its value to enforce – and so far not a penny has been recovered towards the fine.
In the winding-up report, dated May and covering the period to March 2020, Mazars' Adam Harris wrote that "the outcome for creditors is currently uncertain and so I am unable to estimate the likely return". The ICO is an unsecured creditor of IT Protect Ltd.
Doing the right thing – at what cost?
An ICO spokeswoman told The Register : "It is important that we rigorously pursue payment of our monetary penalty notices to ensure we protect the public from individuals and companies who repeatedly break the rules. In taking this action we are ensuring that non-compliant directors are disrupted and obstructed from further non-compliance with the legislation."
The data regulator declined to answer our questions about who would be paying the bills for the liquidation, though it did point us to its Regulatory Action Policy ( [4]PDF ), which says:
...where a company seeks to avoid a financial penalty through complex liability structures or by dissolution, we will pursue matters via winding-up orders or by referral to the Insolvency Service. We have achieved success in obtaining disqualification of directors and winding-up orders to disrupt those who repeatedly break the rules, and we will expand our work in this area.
Warren Pye has been [5]disqualified from acting as a company director until 2025. Dawn Montague was found by the High Court not to have acted as a de facto director of IT Protect, in the same case where Pye was ordered to pay £114,000. Steven Montague, Judge Barber said, "suffered from alcoholism and mental health problems" and was in "too fragile a state to give evidence" to the court.
While the ICO's actions are correct – people who set out to break the law shouldn't go unpunished or be able to evade the consequences of their actions – the high cost of pursuing IT Protect may raise eyebrows among fans of strong enforcement. ®
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[1] https://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKFTT/GRC/2017/2017_0021.html
[2] https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2932375
[3] https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08746708/filing-history
[4] https://ico.org.uk/media/about-the-ico/documents/2259467/regulatory-action-policy.pdf
[5] https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/disqualified-officers/natural/ueakHtml6xJZHkKm11HPxeIVBaM
[6] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: Good.
I wish they'd added an extra 0 to the total amount...
"the high cost of pursuing IT Protect may raise eyebrows among fans of strong enforcement."
It's almost as if having a robust legal system that doesn't just allow the government to crush you into pieces without due process costs time and money.
Note that if the director had paid the fine properly then no problem. But he didn't, and got apparently really bad (or no) legal advice. "I didn't pay the fine because I didn't like it" isn't going to work.
Sending muggers and burglars to jail also is very expensive, it would be cheaper to give half the money to the naughty people in return for staying at home and behaving themselves, but I expect you can see a big flaw in that plan.
Senior Insolvency Partner
They now typically bang out at several hundred pounds an hour! .
As I have recently experienced in failed start up that I put some money in.
Bring back publick stocks.
Let the three be publicly whipped for their refusal to pay the fine and blatant disregard for the law. Set up a booth nearby to sell rotten tomatos, feces, and other sorts of disgusting fodder the public can purchase for a quid (to help pay for all the crap the three have put us through) and then pelt the scumbags with while taunting them mercilously.
Public stocks, caning, naming and shaming, and if those fail to get folks to behave then ...
Bring out the COMFY CHAIR!
Re: Bring back publick stocks.
I was absolutely on board with you until that last sentence after the ellipsis.
You monster. (Still upvoted you though.)
Re: Bring back publick stocks.
No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Mine’s the cilice with another cilice in the pocket.
Re: Bring back publick stocks.
"Sell feces"
You guys are getting paid??
The ICO has a very bad track record for collecting on these fines. At least this shower of shites were pushed out of business but why is the ICO's enforcement so weak?
BA ain't paid
Marriot ain't paid
In fact if you Google around you'll find reports that 42% of fines aren't paid with a total of £7 million.
And those don't include the BA and Marriot fines.
So either the ICO ain't doing it's job properly, or the legal framework it operate within doesn't allow it to act properly. Either way there is a problem to solve.
Winding up takes too long, plenty of time to dispose of assets and plead poverty.
Legal judgement, followed immediately (as in the the following 5 mins) by receivers being appointed, banks notified, directors assets frozen and the company under administration until fines are paid. That'd scare the pants off legit companies enough to make sure they didn't transgress in the first place, scam outfits like this might actually be wound up with cash recovered.
Just make it illegal to cold call anybody! and then hand out prison sentences and fines to those that offend. We continue to get plenty of calls no matter what we try to do to mitigate the b*stards from calling.
Good idea. We should make murder illegal too, with stiff prison sentences for those that offend.
That would stop the murder problem overnight .
Or rather, the problem is not the penalties, but the enforcement of them, and people's perception of the risk of getting caught.
Attainder
The answer is a Bill of Attainder. That is a law, passed by parliament, that the life and property of the accused are forfeit to the state. Forbidden by the US constitution, but probably still OK in the UK.
Re: Attainder
It was one of the grievances that resulted in the American colonies declaring independence from the Crown and it is considered relative to involuntary servitude.
Curious that the UK, Canada, and other still have it.
Wrong dog in pic
Going by its effectiveness, the pic should be of a sleeping Chihuahua. That dog appears to be awake, and might actually do damage if it bit. Though it doesn’t seem interested in doing much of anything.
Blockchain blocking
I think I have found a use for blockchain that isn't just some contrived PR crap.
The problem with many unwanted calls, is that they have hidden their real number, whether that be their mobile, landline or voip address.
Surely a system can be put in place that allows your telephony provider to interrogate the source of the call, and ascertain the credentials are genuine.
And perhaps that system could be blockchain, with each onward node adding to it, so an auditable route and it's source be proven.
Users can then choose to not receive any incoming calls from entities that cannot be verified, which the last leg connector can then divert to a recorded message and thus still get the connection fee.
The money made from deploying this scheme could be funnelled into training a crack team of knuckle draggers to inflict some serious "fines and penalties" in the absence of any real justice being meted out to scam callers.
Good.
Hope they collect every last penny.