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What a time for a TITSUP*: Santander down and out on pre-Bank Holiday payday

(2020/08/28)


Updated It's Friday at month's end just before a Bank Holiday – Pay and Bills Day – and users of Santander's UK arm have been unable to use online banking and apps since 9:49 AM BST. Thousands of companies use the bank to process UK payroll.

More than 2,000 reported having issues at publication on [1]third-party downtime monitor DownDetector , with financial hub London the pulsating red zit on the outage map.

While some have speculated that the bank hit a snag with a systems update this morning (we've asked Santander for confirmation), very little has been said by the bank itself, aside from some "try again later" messages from its Twitter support.

Judging by its [2]service status , you'd think nothing had happened – green boxes as far as the eye can see, with the exception of telephone banking, which was not so surprisingly "experiencing very high volumes of calls".

Reg readers with staff and their own bills to pay hit out at the banking giant for its lack of communication:

[3]@santanderukhelp Cannot access the Santander website on any device it states there is a problem. I need to pay my staff and i am not getting an answer on the phone. I need this resolved ASAP. whats the issue? — Stuart Buchanan (@Fuzzyligic) [4]August 28, 2020

Hi, I’m having the same issue. I have staff waiting to be paid. Could you provide an update on when this will be fixed. [5]@santanderukhelp — Nicole (@nicolejone) [6]August 28, 2020

Many frustrated customers called out the bank for not specifying what the heck went wrong when logins failed, with [7]one commenting angrily : "The login error is peculiarly useless - 'It could be us. It could be you. Who can tell?' You can. You can tell, Santander. And then you can tell us."

[8]

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Santander's Twitter help account said it was "aware of an issue with our online banking and we're currently investigating the matter. We'd recommend trying to log back on later today."

Is that inside business hours then? We've contacted the bank's official orifice to see if we can get some information beyond "try again later."

The bank's latest financial report

[9]PDF

said that, in the wake of the pandemic, the bank had been: "segregating teams and technological infrastructures, establishing shifts between critical employees and their back-ups, as well as increasing the capacity of systems and lines, carried out by the Technology and Operations area."

Updated at 15.10 BST on 28 August to add:

A spokesperson at Santander sent us a statement:

"We’re aware that some customers are currently experiencing difficulties accessing our digital banking services. We are very sorry for the inconvenience this is causing and we are working hard to fix the issue.

“Debit cards, credit cards and ATMs are not affected and customers can continue to use these as normal. Our telephone lines are operational but we are experiencing extremely high volumes of calls, so we would ask that customers with non-urgent transactions call later if possible.” ®

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[1] https://downdetector.co.uk/status/banco-santander/

[2] https://www.santander.co.uk/personal/support/customer-support/service-status

[3] https://twitter.com/santanderukhelp?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[4] https://twitter.com/Fuzzyligic/status/1299290273575510017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[5] https://twitter.com/santanderukhelp?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[6] https://twitter.com/nicolejone/status/1299303371933974532?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[7] https://twitter.com/rupertg/status/1299299459696910341

[8] https://regmedia.co.uk/2020/08/28/santander_login_error.jpg

[9] https://www.santander.com/content/dam/santander-com/en/documentos/resultados-trimestrales/2020/2q/rt-2t-2020-informe-financiero-en.pdf

[10] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/

SNAFU

trevorde

Upgrading a critical system. On a Friday. Which is payday. At the end of the month. Before a Bank Holiday long weekend. What could possibly go wrong?

Re: SNAFU

KittenHuffer

I'm sure there is no way at all that the manager who made those decisions is called Murphy?!?

Re: SNAFU

Ian K

While I hesitate to say anything that could be construed as defending Santander, in the interests of fairness the article doesn't say that this outage was down to any sort of upgrade, let alone one to a critical system.

It does mention a fairly generic promise to upgrade systems, made in the last financial report, but there's nothing to say when that actually happened/will happen.

Anonymous Coward

Mobile app is working for me, just not the online banking website

katrinab

I can log onto my business account, but not my personal account.

Though I can access my personal accounts from the business account login, and a transfer between business and personal worked.

Can confirm

NickyD

App on android phone works for me too.

Bertieboy

Fridays!

I recall a colleague of mind whose main task was to maintain and "continuously improve" a DEC based real time 24/7/365 control system. Above his desk was a large notice reading "NEVER NEVER NEVER update this system on a Friday" Over the years I have come to learn the wisdom of this advice.

Pascal Monett

I thought that was akin to religious practice in IT circles.

Obviously, religion has not been passed on to the new generation.

So, be Agile Monday through Thursday, but be wary on Fridays. Always.

TheProf

"24/7/365"

Would you like to think about that for a moment?

a_yank_lurker

Monday is often a good day to avoid also. Hangovers can mess with one's concentration.

I think I know what happened

Thomas PinkOne

This part is true - I contacted them the other day and asked them to close my account.

I assume an employee then hit Close All instead of just Close, and went on to click Yes in the 'Are you sure?' dialog. I mean, who hasn't accidentally deleted millions of customer accounts at least once in their career?

I asked for any money remaining in my account as a cheque. With any luck, one for £eleventy-billion is on its way

Re: I think I know what happened

Anonymous Coward

Considering how much Santander have annoyed me over the past few years it won't be long before I close my account too. Maybe you already got them to do it, and save me the hassle. Thanks. Can you pass part of the elevnty billion on to me, please.

Re: I think I know what happened

Thomas PinkOne

Sure. I'll make the cheque out to Anonymous Coward.

Dick Turpin wore a mask .....

amanfromMars 1

Banks are for using, not trusting.

Once upon a time, there was a business account with Barclays which was closed while it was still in credit to the tune of a very small sum. Rather than transfer the funds into another working account digitally, an authorised signatory for and on behalf of Barclays Bank PLC Sundry Persons thought it best to send by post a crossed cheque payable only to the closed account. That is tantamount, children, to being wilfully crooked, so take care and beware, and they are all tarred with the same brush.

Doctor Syntax

Somebody's bonus depended on getting some change in before month end?

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