The Surface Duo isn't such an outlandish idea, but Microsoft has to convince punters the form factor is worth having
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But Microsoft's new form factor feels more earnest, probably because it's Redmond's first stab at a phone in a long time. Microsoft's hardware aspirations ride on this device, and any failure may critically damage the firm's mobile esteem, not to mention the standing of the Surface line. So no pressure then.
At nearly $1,400, the Surface Duo isn't the most expensive phone out there, and thus unlikely to raise many eyebrows. As we pointed out earlier this week, it's [3]roughly comparable to the current asking price of the Samsung Galaxy Fold.
It isn't too far removed from that of conventional flagship mobes either. On the Android front, you can point to the Huawei P40 Pro+, which retails at £1,299.99 ($1,700 at today's exchange rates). Meanwhile, the fully specced-out iPhone 11 Pro Max costs $1,499 before tax. What people might not like when asked to pay this price for the Surface Duo, however, is the ageing Snapdragon 855 platform inside and lack of 5G support.
The Surface Duo has also arrived at a difficult time for the industry. Smartphone volumes are down and the ongoing economic uncertainty has prompted many to re-evaluate their purchasing habits, with flagships increasingly shunned for cheaper mid-rangers.
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Analyst Paolo Pescatore of PP Foresight said: "The high price will deter many users from buying it; more so in light of the pandemic and competitive landscape. There are too many high-end devices chasing too few dollars."
Microsoft's biggest challenge will be convincing people they need that second display. Right now, there aren't too many consumer use cases, and as a result Redmond is heavily marketing this device to professionals, emphasising the productivity advantages of a dual-screen phone.
Demonstrating the device in a recorded press briefing, now available [5]to watch on the Surface YouTube channel , corporate VP of mobile and cross-device experiences Shilpa Ranganathan showed how the Office stable of productivity apps works in this relatively untapped form factor.
OneNote, for example, allows you to look at multiple notebooks concurrently. The Android version of PowerPoint gives you a more traditional overview at your presentations, with a list of all existing slides located on one display, and a big-picture look at an individual slide in another.
But while Microsoft's own apps looked nicely polished, the biggest hurdle will be whether third-party apps readily adopt this form factor. The press demonstration showed WhatsApp spanned across both displays – albeit with the phone "projecting" to a desktop computer – and it didn't look particularly impressive. It seemed abnormally elongated.
Baking in that third-party support will take time and, ultimately, developer interest. The latter may not be immediately forthcoming, considering the Surface Duo will almost certainly be a niche device catering to a small percentage of the phone-buying population.
It also doesn't help that, from the outset, Microsoft isn't gunning for a worldwide release. The Surface Duo will be a US exclusive at first, and it's not obvious when it'll hit European shores.
On the flip side, it's also true that people are increasingly accustomed to dual-display environments for their day-to-day home and business computing. Most businesses have quickly figured out that people can get more done if their workers are given plenty of display real estate to multitask with. So perhaps the Surface Duo as a biz device might even catch on. ®
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Early edition
This feels like an early release to test the technology and evolve the platform in the wild. MS did similar things with Kinect and MS Band. Kinect eventually yielded HoloLens, while the Band died.
For the Duo, I'm having a bit of trouble seeing the progression, however. I really like the concept, but outside of further miniaturizing computers, what's the endgame?
Does it run Windows?
Oh right, never mind then.
Re: Does it run Windows?
It actually runs Android with an MS skin.
Seriously
Seriously...why would anyone buy an Android phone from Microsoft? Why in hell is Microsoft even bothering to bring to market another Android phone?
It boggles the mind!
I Seriously want to make a Pwnie Express out of this
You ask what anyone would want to do with a dual screen clamshell phone from M$ that runs android? I'd turn it into a pwn phone, with a kali linux rom. I'd also try to fix is most glaring shortcoming, which is that like most phone manufacturers, it needs to be rotated 90 degrees.
One screen for displays and one for soft keys or context specific controls.
Though users comments are 100% correct, these are likely to be unicorn devices, and few app developers will ever add the optimizations to make apps shine on this platform.
Then M$ will quietly announce a retreat and discontinue the project they allowed to fail because they keep using the "Field of Dreams" model, where they just build the platform, and leave it as a bare skeleton, expecting others to flock to the new creation and sew flesh to it's bones for them.
I'd like to like it, but …
… an iPad Mini is a whole lot cheaper (although it can't place conventional phone calls, and it does not fold (although [1]people try [YouTube]).
[1] https://youtu.be/QtFOpkpytjw
Re: I'd like to like it, but …
I enjoyed that video.
I can only really see it being bought by people who use the compatible MS app for business use. As I don't foresee it appealing to the younger generation who would rather spent $1000+ on an Iphone due to it being more desirable as a status symbol.
And if it only has an small install base then their is not much incentive for app developers to support the second screen.
Move along, nothing to see here.
Let's see how they do with the Courier Surface Neo, whenever that's finally due.
Snapdragon 855 is not a deal breaker for me, no 5G is actually a bonus as far as I'm concerned but US exclusive... that is a deal breaker. :(
Meh.
Just, meh.
Interested, but I'll pass
At first glance yesterday I thought they can jog right on at that price with those spec's, but actually after watching the press briefing video today I'm far more interested in it. Can see the value proposition for those who commute via public transport to be fully productive without having to get a laptop out (which is never practical). The money clearly goes on the screens which whilst isn't as cool as the actual single folding screens from Huawei and Samsung seems to have a lot of engineering in it and does appear to be genuinely well thought through, well optimised and very productive.
But this is MS we're talking about, which means no way will I try a 1st generation product. (Ex-Windows Phone, Band and Groove user here!)
If this is still going strong in 3 years time, I'd be very tempted by a 3rd generation version of it. As long as they have the stamina that is.