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You can keep on changing names and words in galaxies and scripting/coding, people won't change their habits. Of prejudice, bias and general arsehole-ness.

So I am pro-change, but anti-human, lol.

your attitude of prejudice against bias and general arseholeness is terrible! For the sake of diversity and inclusiveness of all views, you MUST change yours and embrace this change with open mind. Or else.

The prejudice and bias is purely in the minds of people who assign those values to certain words, especially where no prejudice or bias is intended on the part of the users of those words. Why these people want to assume the worst in others is most likely nothing more than projection.

Correct. This mindset of seeing racially or sexually based issues in every single thing is a disease in the minds of the people who are wanting the change. That or just that everyone is scared silly of a very small vocal minority who like to control others through fear of being labelled as a racist of a 'phobe.

...in every single thing...

Oy! That's discriminatory against those of us not currently in a relationship with another entity.

See also the recent (and, in my opinion, frankly irrational) [1]resignation of a presenter from my and your favourite [2]urban hip-hop/RNB station, Radio 1Xtra, for the BBC reporting the use of an offensive racial slur [3]in context, preceded by a warning, and with the approval of the family involved . Some people seem to just be looking for ways to be offended. He said he could not work with the BBC allowing “the N-word being said on national television by a white person”. So, there are some words that people with certain heritage are allowed to say, but people of other heritage are not? He seems to be implying that it would have been fine if the reporter were black. Sounds a bit racist to me... I'm frankly offended and will be resigning.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/aug/08/bbc-presenter-quits-in-protest-after-n-word-allegedly-used-in-attack-repeated-on-air

[2] https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/recording-academy-grammy-changes-2021-1012347/

[3] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53657013

"minority who like to control others" -- this is what it's about and all it has ever been about.

If only I could up vote more than once.

However as Trigun says there is more going on and I think it is far more dangerous than people merely projecting their own fears onto other peoples behavior. It is a sort of race to the moral high ground while at the same time castigation those that are not pious enough. I think it is a form of mass hysteria (hum, can we continue using that sexist term? :) amplified via the always on, connected and uncritical population at large. A race to find ever more things that might offend and ever more righteous ways of signaling your superiority to the majority by your awareness of these so call offenses. No matter there might not be any actual offense, that is of no consequence. It is the act of signalling to the uninitiated, the ignorant but most importantly to your fellow acolytes, that matters. Quite literally, that act of being holier than thou. This is the object of the exercise. Quite sickening.

As ever, a name has been coined for this, the purity spiral, and the chattering classes are all a chattering about it. How long I wonder before that term becomes persona non gratis. There is an ok'ish BCC radio shown exploring the phenomenon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000d70h

"You now need to sign in. It's quick & easy"

Well, bbc can fuck off and die. Alternatively, that open-source iplayer should do it. Is it worth it though? I can see the phenomenon daily anyway...

Should be ban the name Android? Android as a name is seriously discriminatory, calling your phone a robot? Calling people robot users, not robot abusers?

This is dumb, every name out there in the world can be thought to be discriminatory in one way or another - lets move to abandoning these human invented names and name everything with a GUID, at least a GUID is not going to have racist or sexist accusations.

Signed, {144BA728-FC67-404D-8DA5-44132EB8810A}

I say! Are you related to the Hertfordshire 44132EB8810As? Old friends of the family, dontcha know?

The one in hunting pink, obv. --->

Perhaps...

The morality crew will jump straight onto prominent D1C5 B00B135 or BAD6E

BAD6Es! We don't need no stinkin' BAD6Es!

Speaking of which, how long before Blazing Saddles gets the chop? (I see YouTube finally pulled the "Germans" episode of Fawlty Towers. Fucking gootard assholes.)

All is not lost

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-53032895

Would pulling Blazing Saddles from the list be considered anti-semitic in any way?

Android also comes from Greek andros which means 'man' (as in androgynous), thereby is not an inclusive term.

We should not use 'robot' either. It comes from a word that means 'slave'.

Albedo means whiteness. And clearly Solstice is a heathen term.

Really? I thought it was derived from the russian word for 'worker'.

I despise all these so called 'woke' purity nuts.

> We should not use 'robot' either. It comes from a word that means 'slave'

The word "service" too.

Isn't that going to offend Sarah Jessica Parker?

or the mafia...

Neigh!

The only way of stopping this madness is to ban all [1]uses of the same word to mean more than one thing . If everything is described by a different word then nobody will get into trouble for accidentally making someone feel uncomfortable.

I wish that it were only this simple.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homonym

With this new Woke crowd the words change their meaning on a daily basis. Everything has become a means of entrapment..

That will continue until the people get absolutely sick of it all and then the push back will begin.

If the SJWs/Woke Crowd don't like society then they are certainly free to create their own...

Go Woke, go broke..

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Student: "You wont find a single word in my paper that one couldn't say on Radio 4!"

Master: "Yeah, but not in that particular order ..."

Context is key. All else is madness.

Careful now. Master? You're clearly a monster

I don't know how true it is, but a Jewish friend once told me that in ancient Hebrew, there were no words that had dual meanings, so maybe if true, that is the solution. Lets resurrect a dead language!

Absolutely untrue. Look at all the arguments over which translation of the Five Books of Moses is the correct one.

Nebula 1,2,3,4,5,etc. Galaxy 1,2,3,4,5,etc. Object 1,2,3,4,5,etc.

The future is boring, sterile, and apparently had to be this way because everything is offensive to these woke tards. If offence was a form of energy we'd have a limitless supply.

" If everything is described by a different word then nobody will get into trouble for accidentally making someone feel uncomfortable."

It's going to be a big job disentangling 'set'.

There are real actual problems of discrimination in the world.

Scientific nomenclature is not one of them.

Has any group of people actually suffered as a result of this nomenclature?

In some parts of the world people are imprisoned, beaten, murdered because of their race or religious beliefs.

Solve that actual problem instead.

The people at NASA can't solve that problem and I'm pretty sure they aren't suggesting that their policy will solve that problem.

A problem they CAN solve is that they feel some names are inappropriate. You might disagree, but what they name things is up to them, surely? You aren't getting harmed in any way, so why not just let them use names they are more comfortable with rather than going all gammon about PC gone mad?

... how many problems are they going to create? For example, are YOU volunteering to pay for the reprinting and distribution of all the textbooks containing the words that must be sanitized/purified by this hyper politically correct insanity?

'gammon'... I've seen this a few times. I assume it's supposed to be some sort of derogatory term for a particular type of white person. Why did you use this term?

... "gammon" used in this context means one's face looks like a ham.

Name calling, in other words. One wonders if Naich understands what the term "hypocrite" means.

Agreed. Would we persist is referring to a co-worker by a derogatory nickname that that person had asked us to stop using? For most I hope the answer would be "no". Would stopping solve the problem of workplace harassment? No, of course not. But every bit helps. If I, for pretty much no cost or effort, could be less of an asshole to someone, why should I chose *not* to?

And I doubt anyone is expected to reprint textbooks (as suggested below), but the next edition is easily fixed, and so is the website.

"Solve that actual problem instead."

Whilst your post is undoubtably true, it also suffers a bit from 'whataboutism' (Google is your friend). There will *always* be a more serious issue to contend with, in any walk of life, by any reasonably sensible measure. What should you do? What should everyone do? What should society do?

In this case, what should NASA do? Should send all their employees to work as rescue teams to far flung corners or volunteers in food kitchens and stop sending stuff out of the atmosphere? At what point do you say 'no, you go do that, but different you go and do a a different that'? If NASA are tasked with being NASA and watching the stars and occasionally throwing big fireworks around, maybe we should just let them crack on with their naming issues and just appreciate that they are at least thinking about it?

A/C too.

"Solve that actual problem instead."

Too hard. Solve the easier ones instead. This is a two Dilbert issue.

https://dilbert.com/strip/1999-02-17

https://dilbert.com/strip/1998-10-13

banning siamese twins. Is this because it's degrading to "siamese", to conjoined twins, or because the ones this term was named after, were slave owners who saw black people as sub humans?

Discuss.

Out of curiosity, I just checked whether https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arabic_star_names might offend modern sensibilities.

Amazingly, it looks like they ancient Arabs had the foresight to choose names that wouldn't offend anybody past, present or future.

Probably.

Is the virgin a swallower or does (s)he prefer a string of pearls?

Obviously, the 'rocket scientists' at NASA have far too much time on their hands.

Or too many managers on their backs.

The best way to fight fever is now to break the thermometer.

"Goodnews! The new dictionary is out!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=105&v=R7Pkcg3DdOY&feature=emb_logo

It wont end with the "correction" of nicknames etc. Once that is cleared up the void it creates will force those who wish to correct everything will start looking for new words.

This is just like a language based version of what I saw growing up in the 90's and early 2000's. Where Nativity plays in schools were banned "because it would offend minority groups". Interview after interview, debate after debate. All majority groups, attacking themselves live on TV and radio as they tried to capitulate to the minority groups who were demanding the censoring of the "dominant" culture of the country. Occasionally one of the minorities managed to sneak into the discussion and with a bewildered look on their faces ask where the fuck this censoring crap all came from?

When looked at, this NASA thing, the cancelling of cultural expression to save the minorities who literally have no idea what we are talking about, the editing of the dictionary to delete words that certain people (profiled by their racial attributes no less) can not use, they just seem insignificant by themselves. ANy argument against them is an overreaction etc.

Some people can stand back and see all of it at once and its very very dangerous. Especially if you consider that there are two types of people seeing all of it at once, those who wish to resist it and those who wish to enable it. The enablers are winning right now, if they gain enough ground there will be a Newspeak of sorts. The children of the future will use it and Oldspeak may even get you in trouble. Bit by bit, inch by inch moving slowly towards the new dictionary that is different depending in what colour you are, religion you follow if any, perhaps even what genitals you posessed at birth. Go slowly enough and only the old luddite fogies will remember a time when everything was equal and debatable and applicable to various situations that actually need it to describe history or even a concept, from both sides of history.

When you watch that video, actually understand it, it is alluring isnt it. By defining language and controlling it, we can begin to control thought.

How long till we start on Shakespeare? Why shouldn't we? I bet there is plenty there to correct.

If you tried to turn Shakespeare politically correct, there wouldn't be anything left!

[1]Here's a short list of examples.

[1] https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/54442/10-shakespeares-best-dirty-jokes

So the Eskimo Nebula has now been renamed to the Snownigger Nebula.

On a more serious note: apparently some Inuit do prefer the term Eskimo.

We should also ban all languages that routinely assign genders to objects. Just endemic and mass produced discrimination of the worst kind. Not very common in English, or even American, but there are a few blatant and utterly disgusting uses of this. Dor example, referring to a ship as "she" or "her"? Just disgusting and wretched and incredibly, deeply sexist and discriminatory... I haven't been so disgusted and appallled for at least two days.

Yup, that's the French screwed.

Exactly! We should immediately ban the use of any language that mandates grammatical gender.

That'll show the sexist bastards!