IBM job ad calls for 12 years’ experience with Kubernetes – which is six years old
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/07/13/ibm_kubernetes_experience_job_ad/
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Which is a little odd because the [1]first GitHub commit for the project was made on June 7, 2014. And the feature freeze for version 1.0 was [2]announced on May 22, 2015.
Sharp-minded Reg readers will have recognised that – absent time travel – it is therefore not possible for anyone to have 12 years’ experience with Kubernetes.
The [3]ad is sadly silent on just how IBM expects candidates will have found the time to accumulate a dozen years’ experience in a six-year-old project.
At least IBM is not alone in making such a silly mistake: developer Sebastián Ramírez, who created FastAPI and Typer, recently shared a similar experience on Twitter...
I saw a job post the other day. 👔
It required 4+ years of experience in FastAPI. 🤦
I couldn't apply as I only have 1.5+ years of experience since I created that thing. 😅
Maybe it's time to re-evaluate that "years of experience = skill level". ♻ — Sebastián Ramírez (@tiangolo) [4]July 11, 2020
Ramírez’s post sparked a lively conversation about similarly bonkers job ads, and unfortunately dopey candidates for tech jobs.
We interviewed a 28yo designer in 2012 who told us he had 17 years experience designing websites. I said, “Tim Berners-Lee doesn’t have 17 years experience designing websites.”
“Who’s Tim Berners-Lee?” he asked.
So yeah. 🤣 — lynn boyden (she/her) (@lrb23) [5]July 11, 2020
If you’ve ever spotted a daft job ad, or been asked something especially silly in an interview, feel free to [6]write to me and maybe we’ll get some more laughs from this situation. ®
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[1] https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/commit/2c4b3a562ce34cddc3f8218a2c4d11c7310e6d56
[2] https://groups.google.com/g/kubernetes-announce/c/1voyC1d-T_o
[3] https://intellijobs.ai/job/IBMCloud-Native-Infrastructure-Engineer-Architect-bvJJ6yraexfWOk1nMRKP-bvJJ6yraexfWOk1nMRKP
[4] https://twitter.com/tiangolo/status/1281946592459853830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
[5] https://twitter.com/lrb23/status/1282040894812610560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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[7] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Why wouldn't Tim Berners-Lee have 17 years experience designing websites?
He created the WWW in 1989 and WC3 was founded in 1994, so it's totally plausable someone has been designing websites since 1995.
Re: Why wouldn't Tim Berners-Lee have 17 years experience designing websites?
According to CERN's own website:
"By the end of 1994, the Web had 10 000 servers - 2000 of which were commercial - and 10 million users. Traffic was equivalent to shipping the entire collected works of Shakespeare every second."
So I suppose people must have been doing *something* prior to 1995.
Re: Why wouldn't Tim Berners-Lee have 17 years experience designing websites?
I think the point wasn't a matter of timing, rather it was that the kid who claimed to have been in it practically since the year dot had no clue who Tim was.
It is in base 3 for obvious reasons
Convert to base 10 and you get 5 years which is well within the realm of possibility.
Re: It is in base 3 for obvious reasons
An HR droid who knows what base 3 is?
Pull the other one. It's got bells on.
Human Remains
We've been joking about this since the '80s. It may have been going on before that, but at that point computing was something I did for pleasure rather than financial reward so I wouldn't have noticed.No matter when a technology was announced, as soon as a job advert went out for it the starting point was always 5 years. It was ever thus and always will be. HR aren't actually people and you can't expect them to behave like people.
And so it ever was.
Since when did HR generated job adverts make any sense from a technical perspective in the first place?
HR generated "job postings" and actual "jobs available" aren't synonymous.
The former exists to keep HR running, thus helping keep the HR droids in a paycheck.
The later may or may not really exist outside of an HR droid's imagination.