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Email innovator Hey extends an olive branch in standoff with Apple, tweaks code to make the iGiant appier

(2020/06/22)


A truce is [1]being threatened in the standoff between Apple's App Store and email imagineer Hey.

With a new take on email, Hey has its own dedicated app and requires users pay a subscription fee to use the service. Apple [2]was unimpressed , first demanding a cut of the company's revenues before seeming to [3]threaten to remove the app from its store completely.

We at El Reg are, of course, [4]all too familiar with both the capricious and grudge-holding abilities of Cupertino.

The standoff has brought into sharp relief some of [5]Apple's practices , which might seem less than fragrant to the delicate nostrils of even the most drooling fans.

On the eve of the Apple's WWDC, where the company is [6]widely expected to pull the covers from Arm-powered macOS kit, it appears peace is threatening to break out in the Hey App Store spat after Apple senior veep Phil Schiller dropped some rather heavy-handed hints with regard to what he wanted from the email upstart.

Hey is trying a new take on email – but maker complains of 'outrageous' demands after Apple rejects iOS app [7]READ MORE

After the sudden acceptance of the 1.02 bug-fix version of the Hey iOS app on 19 June, the gang put in a weekend of work to address Schiller's specific comments (kind of). The result is a version that allows users to sign up in-app for a free randomised hey.com email address in order to deal with the whole "you download the app and it doesn't work" issue.

That said, we can't imagine that anyone will come up with nefarious uses for what sounds a little bit like a 14-day "burner" Hey email address.

The gang has also added a multi-user "Hey for Work" option, where a company (instead of the individual) pays for the service, rather like other multi-platform enterprise products.

The result is 1.03, which has been submitted with an unspoken dare to Apple along the lines of: "We did what we think you want, now let it through."

An alternative approach for Hey might be to simply charge iOS customers more than those on other platforms. Certainly, the faithful are well used to paying over the odds for their hardware.

While longstanding apps from Netflix and Google appear to have gone through on the nod, Hey has become somewhat of a cause célèbre for those starting to look a little harder at Apple's App Store rules. As its developers prepare to tune in for their annual shindig, Apple could do without a cloud hanging over its treatment of those that have made its platform successful.

Heaven forbid that that any new Arm-based Macs end up being rather tightly bound to Apple's App Store. ®

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[1] https://hey.com/apple/path/

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/17/hey_apple_spat/

[3] https://twitter.com/dhh/status/1272968382329942017

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2016/09/07/reg_effort_to_attend_iphone_7_launch/

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/19/app_monopoly_microsoft/

[6] https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/22/mingchi_kuo_apple_arm/

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/17/hey_apple_spat/

[8] https://go.theregister.com/tl/1956/-9042/free-hands-on-training-kubernetes-in-google-cloud?td=wptl1956

A subscription fee for email‽

jake

Well, THERE'S your problem ... Never mind piddly bickering with Cupertino, you lot have bigger issues to address.

Re: A subscription fee for email‽

Richard 12

Exchange ain't free, and neither is a corporate Google Mail.

There's definitely a lot of people willing to pay for stuff over-and-above the core email feature set.

In many ways Hey is an email filter service, and there are several other companies making money doing that.

Re: A subscription fee for email‽

noboard

Err, I pay for my email. It doesn't get scanned and interupted with adverts that are no use to me. For the services I get, it's well worth the money.

No idea about this "hey" email though.

monty75

So bored of hearing about Hey and their desperate attention-seeking behaviour to get some free advertising

Anonymous Coward

>So bored of hearing about Apple and their desperate attention-seeking behaviour to get some free advertising

FTFY

Joel Mansford

Now imagine starting, I don't know maybe a barista-free, Covid-safe coffee business where you use your phone to order your coffee but take payment via contact-less credit card.

This is a great idea, people expect apps so you write an iOS & Android app and attempt to put them on the respective stores. Apple however turnaround and say "this isn't free you're charging offline" and demand a percentage of your company revenue.

Now what do you do? Ignore all Apple users or go to the media?

Personally I think big businesses get away with far too much of this kind of shit which is one of the reasons I really like what Joe Lycett has been doing:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51703859

When you are in the middle of a story it isn't a story at all, but
only a confusion; a dark roaring, a blindness, a wreckage of shattered
glass and splintered wood, like a house in a whirlwind, or else a boat
crushed by the icebergs or swept over the rapids, and all aboard
powerless to stop it. It's only afterwards that it becomes anything
like a story at all. When you are telling it, to yourself or to
someone else.
-- Margaret Atwood, "Alias Grace"