Intel is offering more 14nm Skylake desktop processors, we repeat: More 14nm Skylake desktop processors
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/01/intel_10th_gen_desktop/
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These are refined 14nm Skylake-based parts – a microarchitecture that [1]dates back to 2015 – rather than the 10nm microprocessors people have been waiting years for.
You can find the top-end i9 parts [2]here : they include the aforementioned [3]$488 10900K, and the 10900KF that requires a discrete GPU; the mobile-leaning eight-core 10980HK that also runs up to 5.3GHz; and the 10-core 10900TE that runs up to 4.5GHz.
Then there are the high-end i7 parts, [4]here : they include the eight-core 10700KF that runs up to 5.1GHz; and the six-core 10750H that runs up to 5GHz.
And then there are the mid-range i5 parts, [5]here , and the low-end i3 ones, [6]here .
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There are 32 combinations all told in this fresh batch of desktop-grade processors, code-named Comet Lake, and too many to list here.
The chipsets support up to 2.5Gbps Ethernet, Wi-Fi 6, PCIe 3, and dual-channel DDR4-2933 RAM for the i9 and i7 and DDR4-2666 for the i5 and i3. They sport a built-in UHD Graphics 630 graphics system, unless it's an F-type and requires a separate GPU, and they require an LGA1200 socket so you may be looking at a new motherboard if you want to upgrade.
Meltdown mitigations are built into the silicon, though [8]variant 4 requires operating system support. The Spectre data-leaking flaws require software and firmware-level mitigations.
The more high-end offerings use Intel's Turbo Boost Max 3.0, which ramps up the frequency of one or more "best performing" CPU cores on the die to match demand within the physical constraints of the system, and Intel's so-called Thermal Velocity Boost, which increases the clock speed of cores as needed if the silicon can stay under 70°C (158°F).
So if you can keep your processor cool, you can get Thermal Velocity Boost speeds – 5.3GHz on the 10900K, for example – or you fall back to Turbo Boost Max 3.0 speeds on preferred cores – 5.2GHz for the 10900K – if possible, and something slower on the other cores.
The K-type processors are, as usual, unlocked for overclocking. Keep an eye on the TDP, too, as some will say they go up to 125W, others 65W, some 35W, and so on – yet you'll find, for example, the 125W parts may hit 250W in turbo mode.
You can absorb the marketing [9]blurb and specs here . Chipzilla reckons its 10th-generation Core lineup can cater for desktop power and casual users, gamers, and [10]Internet-of-Things and edge applications .
Meanwhile, around the same price points as the Comet Lake Cores, AMD's touting up to 12-core (24 thread) 7nm Ryzen parts clocked up to around 4.6GHz with faster RAM and PCIe 4. ®
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[1] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/06/intel_first_skylake_processors/
[2] https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/195735/10th-generation-intel-core-i9-processors.html
[3] https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/199332/intel-core-i9-10900k-processor-20m-cache-up-to-5-30-ghz.html
[4] https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/195734/10th-generation-intel-core-i7-processors.html
[5] https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/195732/10th-generation-intel-core-i5-processors.html
[6] https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/195733/10th-generation-intel-core-i3-processors.html
[7] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/21/intel_amd_processor_channel_sales/
[8] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/21/spectre_meltdown_v4_microsoft_google/
[9] https://newsroom.intel.com/press-kits/10th-gen-intel-core-processors-amazing-gaming-starts-intel/
[10] https://newsroom.intel.com/articles/more-powerful-edge-processing-10th-generation-intel-core-processors-iot-edge/
[11] https://go.theregister.co.uk/tl/1936/-8554/forrester-build-a-digital-experience-portfolio?td=wptl1936
Re: Last paragraph of the article"
And that's why I'll be going with AMD in my next system. They've proven they can reliably, steadily, consistantly produce 7NM parts while Intel is still stuck in 10NM land.
Intel is trying to bolster their sales by touting 5+GHz speeds, but then you look at the fine print to find out that's only on a single core, only if the chip can maintain it before thermal runaway, & only if you've installed the uber cooling system to keep it cool. Meanwhile AMD "only" runs at 4+GHz, but that's on all cores, no OC needed, & with just a plain cooling fan. If you do the uber cooling rig & OC that Intel does, you wind up with a part that (pardon the pun) smokes their ass.
I'll take the AMD for $500 Alex!
Re: Last paragraph of the article"
People must remember that TDP for Intel means the minimum power needed whereas for AMD it means typical power needed. What this means is the Intel part can indeed reach 5+ GHz, but it will probably be using 2 to 2.5 times as much power as the TDP states, whereas the AMD part will use only about 0.5 times more power to reach the advertised boost.
I don't get it...
Gordon Moore, and the last couple of decades deploying processors, has taught us to expect that compute tends to double every two years.
However this new i5/i7/i9 lineup is hardly double the speed. Worse, it looks to be near to double the price, power consumption and thermal output.
Was the R&D directed towards expanding things we don't see, like the on-die architecture supporting an AI enhanced Intel Management Engine, to expand the gaze of the NSA, and its many 'eyes'?
OK, maybe that's a bit far-fetched. It's probably just down to a neural network buying a seat on the board, and using it to build out a technology roadmap that suits the Rise of the Robots/SkyNet.
Re: I don't get it...
Well yes, it does become fairly difficult to double the transistor density every 18-24 months when you're stuck on the same process node (more or less) for five years for... whatever reason. Fortunately, Intel isn't the only game in town.
Re: I don't get it...
Moore's law really refers to the number of transistors on the chip. But it was only an observation of improvements in process technology. Clock speeds hit upper limits a long time ago which is why we started seeing multiple cores as a consolation. Intel used to be top of the process game but lost the crown a few years ago as it lost focus chasing after the mobile, machine learning, etc.
Re: I don't get it...
That's because Intel is still shipping 14nm parts while other suppliers are shipping 7nm parts and talking about 5nm.
Intel have a 10nm fab, but it doesn't appear to work yet, and is already obsolete.
And another motherboard needed....
Because erm Intel. Same node pretty much the same chips (just i9's renamed as i7's) nothing much new on the chipset (well Wifi 6 is nice to have as is 2.5GB Ethernet but fairly moot when nothing else on my network can communicate at that bandwidth) and a new top end with a 25% increase in cores (though still less than AMD's second place chip).
Power use is going to be insane at the top - remember all the jokes about AMD's chips that could clock really high but needed industrial coolants to get there? Ahead of their time.....
Won't need stickers saying Intel inside as you will know because your pc is now heating your entire house.....
But you will get an extra 2 fps so all good.
(where's the Chipzooky icon?)
Intel has lost it
Still stuck on 14nm. Competition down to 7 nm. RISC devices much smaller again. Has Intel rewritten the Minix code running the silicon badly to mitigate design flaws leading to Spectre et al ?
Re: Intel has lost it
It's only stuck on 14nm for these clock speeds, but it will be galling to see AMD getting similar speeds on 7nm. That could encourage some customers to replace complete data centres if the power savings are sufficient.
So many cores...
So many side channel vulns...
I love competition!
4 years ago, Intel's top-of-the-line 6 core part cost more than this. The launch price of a 6 core Core i7-6000 was about $620, the 8 core was about $1100, and the 10 core was about $1725. Now, what has competition given us? A 10 core Core i9-10000 for about $500.
I love competition!
Last paragraph of the article"
"Meanwhile, around the same price points as the Comet Lake Cores, AMD's touting up to 12-core (24 thread) 7nm Ryzen parts clocked up to around 4.6GHz with faster RAM and PCIe 4."
Ouch!