Prank warning: You do know your smart speaker's paired with Spotify over the internet, don't you?
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/30/spotify_speaker_pairing_internet/
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[1]Spotify's Connect support page tells users to ensure that the two devices are on "the same Wi-Fi network", but as users discovered [2]as far back as 2016 , that isn't strictly necessary.
Reg reader Peter recently found that he was unable to remove Spotify Connect's access to his Marantz media player, prompting a journey of discovery for him.
"If you give your Wi-Fi password to a guest and they connect to one of your devices they can continue to control the devices when no longer on the LAN. They can remotely wake the devices up and play music," he told us, adding: "At no point does any authorisation the user is in control of happen, and there's no way to revoke it."
He also showed us a video he had made of the problem in action. Using a mobile phone on his domestic Wi-Fi, he connected to his speaker and played music over it. Having done that, he then turned off the phone's Wi-Fi, forcing it onto the local mobile network – and flawlessly streamed music to the speaker.
"The bizarre part is why does Spotify provide a feature to play music on devices you control over the internet?" asked Peter, who had, seemingly wrongly, assumed that the pairing was taking place across the local network that both his device and the speaker were on.
"The equivalent would be someone taking control of my Nest heating and me not be able to stop it," he said.
Spotify declined to make an on-the-record statement when we asked about this unusual behaviour. A spokesman, however, did explain that that users can unlink their Spotify accounts from what he described as a "partner service", such as Sonos's online management portal. This unlinking can be done from the Spotify user account area, we are told.
Spotify did not answer when we put Peter's specific scenario to its spokesperson. Peter was adamant that if he didn't have access to the device streaming to the speaker, there was nothing he could do to prevent it.
There's an old proverb about assumptions. Nonetheless, the design of the Spotify pairing process does seem a little counter-intuitive. ®
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[1] https://support.spotify.com/is/listen_everywhere/on_tv/spotify-connect/
[2] https://community.spotify.com/t5/Other-Partners-Web-Player-etc/Delete-or-quot-unlink-quot-devices-on-spotify-connect/m-p/1265851?_ga=2.112580935.29107015.1588166052-699993835.1588166052#M22839
[3] https://go.theregister.co.uk/tl/1936/-8554/forrester-build-a-digital-experience-portfolio?td=wptl1936
Re: Once again I propose we rename IoT as IoV
Until some vendor takes security seriously I don't want any IoT stuff.
Re: Until some vendor takes security seriously...
About 2030 then...?
(or 8 years post CV-19 vaccine becoming available)
Re: Once again I propose we rename IoT as IoV
As ever, caveat emptor.
Or in other words, the "S" in IoT standard for Security...
IoV
At minimum, countries need to have a set of standards at their borders, so that anything falling below the standard cannot enter and be sold.
Beyond that, there is real need for a set of International privacy and security standards that are governed by a regulatory body that has teeth. Of course that will never happen in any meaningful way but if you can't get a certification that enables you to sell your goods, in theory you are going to try harder.
Re: IoV
So basically add it as part of the CE/FCC/Kitemark* certification process?
* or whatever the UK starts using if/when we finally brexit.
Re: IoV
Probably Kitemark - B (rotated) S V for British Standard Verification... or, knowing the shower in power, they will abolish standards altogether as an unnecessary burden on business.
Re: IoV
Seriously? "International privacy and security standard"? You really want Russia & China determining your privacy & security?
Cloudy days ...
... for anyone thinking he actually owns that expensive gadget he shelled out for.
And a briiliant burglery reconnaissence tool: If after the 17th loop of "Last Christmas" (or any title in the 1000 volume collestion "Songs I'd have hoped to never hear again") nobody is running out of the house with blood dropping from the ears, the target can safely be assumed as empty.
Re: Cloudy days ...
... for anyone thinking he actually owns that expensive gadget he shelled out for.
Oh, you mean that always connected and phoning home Tesla that is sitting on your driveway?
The one that can have features added and taken away on the whim of Elon Musk...
Who really owns the vehicle? You or Tesla and all you are paying for is a license to use it?
{ex Model S owner here}
Excuse my ignorance, but do these speakers not come with a control app that lets you manage who is or can connect? Delete pairings? Or do they need a factory reset to clear authorisations? Or do the connections persist a reset? Don't get me wrong, the Spotify over the Internet connection is a concern, but devices you cannot manage have to take some of the blame.
Serves him right for being a hipster.
Once again I propose we rename IoT as IoV
Internet of Vulnerabilities