Who's still using Webex? Not even Cisco: Judge orders IT giant to use rival Zoom for virtual patent trial
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/29/cisco_use_zoom/
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Virginia District Court Judge Henry Morgan this month dismissed Switchzilla's request to appear via its own software for a bench trial due to start May 6. Physical courtroom hearings have been abandoned in the US state due to the COVID-19 [1]coronavirus outbreak, with proceedings held via Zoom.
The judge rejected Cisco’s arguments that Zoom posed a security threat to Cisco by risking exposure of commercially confidential material to the wider world. Zoom was under-fire for its weak encryption, and for routing some connections unnecessarily through China, though [2]version 5 of its application is said to address those flaws.
“The judge also rejected Cisco's argument that using its own Webex software would be safer, noting that using the company's own program could open it up to prejudicial accusations if the technology fails during the trial,” legal newswire Law360 [3]noted yesterday.
Cisco is in court because infosec outfit Centripetal [4]sued the IT goliath in 2018, alleging Cisco products ripped off 11 of Centripetal's packet-filtering technology patents. That figure has been reduced to five after appeals by Cisco, and they are: US [5]9,137,205 , [6]9,203,806 , [7]9,560,176 , [8]9,686,193 , and [9]9,917,856 .
The legal clash stems from Cisco's [10]acquisition of malware analysis firm Threatgrid in 2014, which had partnered with Centripetal. It is claimed Threatgrid's software incorporated Centripetal's patented technology under that partnership, and that this technology has made its way into various bits of Cisco gear, including its IOS XE 16.6 firmware and some of its ASA firewalls, post-acquisition. Centripetal isn't happy about that.
Centripetal also alleged that after demonstrating its wares to Cisco in 2016, the networking giant began selling products that copied its patented intellectual property. ®
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[1] https://www.theregister.co.uk/Tag/coronavirus
[2] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/22/zoom_5/
[3] https://www.law360.com/technology/articles/1267807/ip-trial-headed-to-zoom-next-week-over-cisco-s-objection
[4] https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/virginia/vaedce/2:2018cv00094/383474/202/
[5] https://patents.google.com/patent/US9137205
[6] https://patents.google.com/patent/US9203806
[7] https://patents.google.com/patent/US9560176
[8] https://patents.google.com/patent/US9686193
[9] https://patents.google.com/patent/US9917856
[10] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/22/cisco_slurps_security_scanner/
[11] https://go.theregister.co.uk/tl/1936/-8553/legacy-modernization-finding-your-way-with-low-code?td=wptl1936
As it happens I've got a Webex tomorrow morning
I've have been on quite a few Webexes over the last few weeks and have one again tomorrow morning. From my own experience over these weeks they seem to be quite popular in international relations, foreign offices, embassies etc. Possibly because they've been instructed not to use Zoom.
The UI looks fairly clunky and dated but the functionality works well. Even with massive sessions with over 150 participants, with Q&As in a chat window etc. It's just all a bit more of a hassle than Zoom. If Cisco is smart this is the time to spend serious money on UI/UX and keep a chunk of the video conferencing market. The size of the market is exploding so even if you keep the same market share you suddenly have three times as many customers as two months ago.
Re: As it happens I've got a Webex tomorrow morning
Errr this case is really bad advertising for Webex / CISCO.
Re: As it happens I've got a Webex tomorrow morning
Um...it's fine for Zoom to sort stuff out coz it's newish to the mass market...Cisco's been milking it for too long...plus one is free right now and easy to use...
Webex and Skype
Great examples of how companies with lots of money can fail miserably.
Clearly this judge has used WebEx before and knows how crap it is!