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Welcome to the telco, we've got fun and games: BT inks 5-year deal to outsource mainframe management to IBM

(2020/04/01)


Exclusive BT is outsourcing management of its mainframe estate to IBM in a five-year agreement that kicks off today. And while it may be April Fools' Day, some incumbent staff being TUPEd across to Big Blue aren't laughing.

Staff at the British telco were told about the move in January, then formal consultations with the CWU and Prospect unions kicked off. IBM was on-site at BT bit barns in February and March to help with the "operational transfer", and to let BT staff "hear more about IBM and its culture," stated internal slides at BT that were seen by us.

Today is the day of the big move, about which BT said: "We've decided to partner with IBM to manage the mainframe service. This means that the team of people who support the mainframe will continue doing so however they will be transferred to IBM."

The decision is intended to make it a "simpler organisation with clear focus on what we do brilliantly and what our partners can do brilliantly," the company said in the slides.

In other words, BT wants to stick to its knitting and not be bogged down with paying for techies to manage its estate of mainframes, which will still be housed in BT data centres. At least, that is how the move was taken by some of those employees being shunted to IBM.

The former state telco said the deal will "allow the transferring team to focus on best-in-class mainframe delivery, supported by a wider team." It added the outsourcing will also give the BT team moving to IBM broader career pathways" and give the telco "access to technologies and processes which BT doesn't have."

The mainframe team at BT comprised a little over 60 people, according to insiders, though some members are understood to have opted for early retirement. The team works on various areas ranging from the operating system to applications. The mainframes at BT run the Customer Service Systems software as well as [1]COSMOSS – BT's "customer-oriented system for the management of special services" – and some financial apps, we are told.

"There are over 60 LPARs and the kit is in BT data centres, but IBM will be buying the kit and replacing it with z15 systems," said a source.

He added: "The biggest driver is sustainability; there's a lot of us old hands about and BT refused to pay market rates, so they have done a crap job of recruiting over the last few years – despite everyone telling them they were sitting on a time bomb of retirees."

The five-year contract with IBM nestles well with BT's intention to close the [2]public switched telephone network by 2025.

IBM, according to our sources, have told BT people transferring over that there will be little change in staffing numbers for the first year but all are aware of the [3]direction of travel Big Blue has taken in offshoring .

"IBM have been pretty upfront about redundancies to try and tempt the old hands to stay for another year for knowledge transfer," said a BT engineer. "I have always been loyal to this company [BT] and stuck through Project Sovereign* in the '90s and closing the pension scheme a couple of years ago but this is too much."

The Register has asked BT and IBM to comment. ®

* When British Telecom relaunched as BT, with an accompanying massive corporate rejig replacing its geographies-based structure with broad divisions such as Business Services.



[1] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1018687313760

[2] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/03/openreach_ip_voice_network/

[3] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/31/one_third_ibm_staff_in_india_bangladesh/

Project Sovereign

Anonymous Coward

Ah, I remember the internal backronym: Sod Off Vallance, Every Reorg Ever Invented Got Nowhere.

IBM

theExecutive

1. So they have plenty to spaff on IBM (Not British) see here .. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/01/bbc_broadband_levy/

2. They expect us to fund them, and they choose IBM, nobody ever got retained for buying IBM :)

3. IBM is BBC?

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/04/01/bbc_broadband_levy/

https://www.cbronline.com/cloud/ibm-wins-5-year-bbc-contract-to-drive-mobile-and-cloud-transformation-4859910/

https://www.computerweekly.com/news/450280976/BBC-outsources-finance-and-accounting-technology-to-IBM

4. Its 1st April

Re: IBM

Steve K

I think you are confused - this article was about BT. They have not been taxpayer-funded since the 1980's

One thing is certain

Steve Davies 3

and that is that the number of jobs and kit in Blighty will get an awful lot smaller and possibly down to around ZERO.

IBM really does mean "I've Been Mugged" for each and everyone affected by this move.

Re: One thing is certain

druck

Yes, and "hear more about IBM and its culture", I think everyone knows they their feet won't even touch the carpet before being offshored.

Doctor Syntax

"The five-year contract with IBM nestles well with BT's intention to close the public switched telephone network by 2025."

I wonder. Applying the basic law of project timelines "close the PSTN by 2025" translates to "close the PSTN starting in 2025 at the earliest". When that happens we can reasonably expect customer support calls to go up just as the contract for supporting this system supporting customer service ends. From IBM's PoV the renewal nestles well with that, maybe from the BT side not so much.

No problem

HildyJ

Renew Big Blue and outsource customer support to India.

Help me out here

Repne Scasb

I'm confused.

"what we do brilliantly and what our partners can do brilliantly"

Hmm, I know IBM are pretty good at redundancies, especially of older staff, although it sounds like many will jump first, but remind me, what is it BT do brilliantly again?

Re: Help me out here

Warm Braw

what is it BT do brilliantly again?

Sell off assets and rent them back. Unfortunately, like equity-release mortgages, it only works if you intend to die shortly.

Re: Help me out here

HildyJ

You forgot open their database to hackers. Hopefully IBM can do a better job.

On the subject of BT and India

Anonymous Coward

The lockdown in India seems to have dramatically reduced the number of calls supposedly coming from 'Windows Support'. As I don't have any MS products at home, I'm spared giving them a dose of verbals in Hindi that challenge the caste of their mother.

Re: On the subject of BT and India

Sean o' bhaile na gleann

"...challenge the caste of their mother."

Ohhh! Please, please, please: how do you say that? How do you pronounce it? Go on... pleeeease!

(my minimal language skills only got me as far as COBOL and FORTRAN)

Anonymous Coward

The former state telco said the deal will "allow the transferring team to focus on best-in-class mainframe delivery, supported by a wider team." It added the outsourcing will also give the BT team moving to IBM broader career pathways"

Well, good luck finding "the wider team", and as for "IBM broader career pathways" that usually means a career outside of IBM.

My commiserations.

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