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Fedora's FESCo To Decide Whether To Replace Upstream X.Org Server With XLibre Fork

([Fedora] 4 Hours Ago Fedora 43 Change Proposal)


In addition to the Fedora Engineering and Steering Committee (FESCo) having to decide on [1]whether i686 support should end for Fedora Linux (including multilib), another contentious proposal is on replacing the X.Org X11 Server with the controversial XLibre fork.

Recently opened is [2]a change proposal for using XLibre as the X11 server beginning on Fedora 43. The change proposal argues:

"Replace the X.Org X11 Xserver (xorg-x11-xserver) with the X11Libre (XLibre) Xserver, an actively maintained fork.

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A long time has passed since the last major release of the X.Org X11 Xserver. Even bugfix releases have become rare. Therefore, this Change proposes replacing the nearly unmaintained upstream with a maintained fork, the X11Libre XServer.

The upstream maintainer of X11Libre had been the most active remaining contributor to the X.Org X11 Xserver before the fork. The Change Owner is well aware of the controversies around the X11Libre upstream maintainer (FreeDesktop.org CoC violations, controversial political views, conspiracy theories, rants against Red Hat), but believes that the benefit of shipping maintained software outweighs the potential annoyances when having to deal with upstream.

There is no intent to ever replace the Xwayland implementation, only the standalone Xserver and its subpackages (Xnest, Xvfb, Xephyr), and possibly the driver packages (xorg-x11-drv-*)."

This proposal follows the recent [3]XLibre 25.0 release and [4]the upstream X.Org Server recently reverting many changes from the XLibre author.

The XLibre change proposal for Fedora 43 was today brought to the [5]Fedora devel list for discussion and will then be voted upon by the Fedora Engineering and Steering Committee likely in the next week or two. The change regardless though won't impact too many users at large considering Fedora has been at the forefront of Wayland-based desktop sessions and XWayland continuing to be available.



[1] https://www.phoronix.com/news/Fedora-43-Change-No-i686

[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/X11Libre

[3] https://www.phoronix.com/news/XLibre-25.0-Released

[4] https://www.phoronix.com/news/X.Org-Server-Lots-Of-Reverts

[5] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/3RJJZBMLIQKYVUFV6URL3634CNDILSLF/



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Well, anyway, I was reading this James Bond book, and right away I realized
that like most books, it had too many words. The plot was the same one that
all James Bond books have: An evil person tries to blow up the world, but
James Bond kills him and his henchmen and makes love to several attractive
women. There, that's it: 24 words. But the guy who wrote the book took
*thousands* of words to say it.
Or consider "The Brothers Karamazov", by the famous Russian alcoholic
Fyodor Dostoyevsky. It's about these two brothers who kill their father.
Or maybe only one of them kills the father. It's impossible to tell because
what they mostly do is talk for nearly a thousand pages. If all Russians talk
as much as the Karamazovs did, I don't see how they found time to become a
major world power.
I'm told that Dostoyevsky wrote "The Brothers Karamazov" to raise
the question of whether there is a God. So why didn't he just come right
out and say: "Is there a God? It sure beats the heck out of me."
Other famous works could easily have been summarized in a few words:

* "Moby Dick" -- Don't mess around with large whales because they symbolize
nature and will kill you.
* "A Tale of Two Cities" -- French people are crazy.
-- Dave Barry