China and the US Say They've Agreed to Start Talks About AI (cnn.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/09/27/0153248/china-and-the-us-say-theyve-agreed-to-start-talks-about-ai
- Source link: https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/26/tech/us-china-ai-explainer-intl-hnk
> On artificial intelligence, the two sides agreed to hold a dialogue on the technology's risks and benefits, with the next round of discussions set for November, and to set up a communication channel for AI-related incidents, the Chinese Foreign Ministry and the White House said.
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> The White House said that the leaders had agreed to use the term " [2]super intelligence " in place of "artificial intelligence." In a separate statement, the Chinese ministry said that Beijing valued Washington's use of the new term. As AI technology continues to advance, the two sides should step up exchanges and work toward consensus in line with new developments, it said.
But [3]CNN argues that "Despite growing calls to prevent AI development from spiraling out of control, the Trump-Xi summit has produced little substance, as many experts expected."
> The right thing to do on AI, [China's leader] Xi said during talks with Trump, is to "draw on each other's strengths, not guard against each other" — a reference to Beijing's concern about US containment, from existing tech export controls to potential AI restrictions. "The two sides can continue their dialogue on AI, exchange views on its risks and benefits, and jointly prevent the misuse and abuse of AI," he added. But the summit has yielded little progress on AI beyond a formal dialogue and a bilateral communication channel, proposals discussed before the two leaders' summit — underscoring the entrenched mutual mistrust amid contrasting visions on AI... Because of low levels of trust, cooperation between the two superpowers remains limited, said George Chen, chair of digital practice at The Asia Group consultancy. "Beijing continues to believe Washington seeks to contain China's rise in AI and other emerging technologies, a perception that will shape the pace and scope of future engagement for the two countries on AI," he said.
CNN also points out that while China trails the US in frontier AI models, "it's rapidly narrowing the technology gap while championing a more open ecosystem centered on accessibility and lower cost."
> In July, Chinese leader Xi Jinping [4]launched the World Artificial Intelligence Cooperation Organization — a rival grouping to the Pax Silica alliance that Trump formed last year to reduce reliance on China for AI supply chains. While over two dozen countries and the European Union signed up to Trump's Pax Silica, Xi has recruited 29 countries, including Russia, Indonesia and Pakistan, to his alternative vision of open models, which allow users to freely download, customize and run without paying hefty fees to American firms like Anthropic and OpenAI. For developers in the Global South, an inexpensive Chinese model [5]from DeepSeek or [6]Moonshot may be more useful than a slightly more capable system requiring an expensive subscription and access to a foreign cloud provider, said Eric Olander, editor in chief of The China-Global South Project, a research agency....
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> China's embrace of open systems has not always been a top-down strategy by Beijing. Restrictions on access to the most advanced chips because of US export controls, coupled with smaller capital markets, have pushed Chinese developers toward open models as a way to compete with leading US proprietary systems. That shift has proved effective. In a year, Chinese models' global usage skyrocketed from less than 15% to over 54% last week, led by DeepSeek, according to AI leaderboard data by OpenRouter, a marketplace for models. Even American firms, from Airbnb and DoorDash to Shopify, have embraced Chinese models, tapping into the advantages of open systems, including lower costs and greater flexibility for customization.
CNN adds this insight from Alex Colville, an analyst focusing on tech and security at the government-backed Australian Strategic Policy Institute. "The more capable Chinese models become, the less likely it is Beijing may leave them unrestricted."
[1] https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/china-us-agree-30-billion-083836628.html
[2] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-un-threats-diplomacy-super-intelligence-2026-09-22/
[3] https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/26/tech/us-china-ai-explainer-intl-hnk
[4] https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/17/china/china-ai-conference-analysis-intl-hnk
[5] https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/24/tech/chinas-ai-deepseek-v4-intl-hnk
[6] https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/23/tech/china-ai-moonshot-kimi-explainer-intl-hnk
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It's a Trump international agreement. They nod in agreement to appease the overgrown orange baby and then burst out laughing as soon as they leave the room. Like every agreement with Trump.
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Well, it isn't like trump is known for sticking to what he's agreed to, so treating him trump-like is par for the course.
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He's agreed to stop Iran from getting nukes and it's working so far.
Much better than previous Presidents who tried to bribe Iran with cash to delay until 2030. When it would then become some other Presidents even bigger problem.
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Why? They agreed to a meaningless gesture. Nothing of substance changes of course, but Trump declares victory, can tell everyone who will listen that they caved to his will. End of story, nothing more to see here.
Trust China? (Score:1)
China have every reason to publicly support restricting AI development, while internally developing it anyway. They are well aware that they can get away with anything, while western nations will be held to account by their courts, media and public opinion once they have agreed to and signed any treaties or laws into place. China can sign the same things and completely ignore them, then deny it publicly when called out and get away with it. This is the world we live in whether we like it or not and we shoul
It's a matter of perspective (Score:3)
I'm fully convinced that it does look like super intelligence to some people.
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And since it will be friendly, we could call it, "super friend intelligence". That seems like it would be quite accurate.
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Once you get past earning enough money to do whatever the average person would want the relationship between intelligence and net worth starts to invert, the more money you make the dumber you likely are. You need to be a bit of an idiot to think that owning 50 nice cars is much better than owning one, you can only drive one at a time so what's the point. Yet it's that exact type that are the CEOs that can't tell the difference between the plausible but too often off stuff AI generates and something smarter
Open weights models (Score:3)
Long life and prosperous distillation future to (not only) Chinese open weights models. Hopefully they will not stop releasing them ... anytime soon at least.
Having the code and the training data open would be much better but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
I'm so relieved (Score:2)
China never lies about anything that affects their power and money. Like they've never lied about coal usage, power plant numbers, their military, putting weapons in space, CO2 levels, their own population, their own economy, their own test scores, their own internet, their treatment of minorities, the state of their stock market, the hormone levels in their livestock, their usage of illegal pesticides, their illegal fishing rates, their belt and road initiative scams, their diving fertility rates, or their
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The problem for the trumpistani is that the whole "amurrikah prosperity" myth lies on the "AI" bubble and China is deflating it nicely by releasing high quality free and open models that run no worse than the "frontier" ones and on a very modest hardware.
It is a win for anyone who can use the models for what they are good for without subsidizing the moronic push of cuckerberg, slopman, dario sicutdei and the fat Nazi for producing a mechanistic god that will make them all-powerful and long lived.
Cool and no
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> China never lies about anything ...
People who have a coherent argument to make, and are not afraid to defend it, put their arguments plainly and directly.
Others use sarcasm in order to avoid committing to any real statement, and avoid any debate or criticism. It is a lazy, cowardly approach for the inarticulate. It doesn't make you wrong, just vague and not contributing to a debate.
Yes China lies. Tell us how that is different from your side, and what this actually means for AI negotiations.