The Major Labels Propose Rules to Keep AI Slop Off the Charts
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- News link: https://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/26/07/31/2038220/the-major-labels-propose-rules-to-keep-ai-slop-off-the-charts
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> The proposal goes quite a bit further than a [3]labeling proposal put forth by the RIAA, the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI), SAG-AFTRA, and others. That would create a set of standardized labels for AI-generated and AI-assisted music. The labels' proposal would require songs be clearly labeled, but it would also keep them off international charts unless they met specific criteria, including being "substantially human made."
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> To be eligible, the songs would also have to respect the terms of service of whatever AI service was used, the model would have to have the rights to any data it was trained on, and "not raise stream or chart manipulation concerns." What sort of concerns and what constitutes "substantially human made" are currently vague. Sony Music, UMG, and Mom+Pop Music did not immediately respond to a request for clarification. The IFPI has thrown its weight behind the labels' proposal, though no charting organization has signaled any immediate plan to adopt the rules [...].
[1] https://www.ifpi.org/ifpi-rolls-out-global-principles-for-the-eligibility-of-recordings-developed-using-ai-in-official-music-charts-worldwide/
[2] https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/973741/ai-music-major-record-labels-charts
[3] https://www.riaa.com/music-community-introduces-new-labeling-programto-distinguish-generative-ai-in-sound-recordings/
Bordering on..human behavior. (Score:1)
> ..unless they are "substantially human made,"..
..not like the craptastic collection of non-human algorithms and digi-diddled sampled 80s beats that have pre-manufactured boy band songs for the last decade or three.
> ..properly labeled..
..can I get a mandatory shout-out to the MAFIAA Daddy..
> ..legally produced..
..financially sliced and diced to pay the MAFIAA Daddy..
> ..and free from manipulation concerns..
Uh, yeah. About that Smoov-me algorithm we used to call Autotune we used to call Milli Vanilli..you MAFIAA types still snorting that shit live on stage or wat?
Re: Bordering on..human behavior. (Score:2)
Really sounds a lot like the arguments used to keep that nasty black rap music out of the charts back in the 80s...
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So, MTV unplugged, but on film, apparently.
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Wellll... I *am* of the opinion that electric guitars killed my enjoyment of music, but I'm not sure that has anything to do with the charts.
AI generated art and music... (Score:2)
...can be fun to make, kinda like playing a video game, but it's personal fun.
Nobody wants to look at your AI art or listen to your AI music
The main reason there is so much of it being made is to defraud publishers and platforms.
Of course, it's possible for real artists to use AI tools to help, but simply prompting an AI with a few lines is not art.
AI art is like talking about dreams (Score:2)
Just don't do it.
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The vast majority of human generated art doesn't find a marketable audience either. If you've ever gone to a concert with a forgettable opening act where people would rather futz on their phones than listen to the band, you've seen it firsthand.
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Saw that in reverse in 1984 at the Toledo Sports Arena. White Snake opened for Quiet Riot. White Snake rocked! Quiet Riot came out and absolutely sucked. The entire arena started chanting WHITE SNAKE! LOL, I felt sorry for those black and white striped clowns (Quiet Riot).
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> One need only look at how popular several channels dedicated to AI storytelling are.
Maybe link to one or several of those channels.
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> Demonstrably false. One need only look at how popular several channels dedicated to AI storytelling are.
And if the viewers knew the stories were about as fake as the images associated with them? Not being history or a historical analysis as claimed?
Re:AI generated art and music... (Score:4, Insightful)
I've bought several AI-generated songs on iTunes and a few more that might be AI-generated. Who cares if it's a good song?
And that's what the "Major Labels" are scared of. They're used to being able to control which music makes it and which doesn't, and now anyone can make songs at home and sell them online. They're desperate not to lose the near-monopoly they've had for decades, which pretty much gave them a license to print money.
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Well the songs it modeled and interpolated from were good, but the actual creatives who created those real sources won’t be compensated since their work was sufficiently masked through the training process.
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One of the people making those songs used to be in a band who got a few singles in the top 40 years ago. Now he doesn't need a band because he can write songs, have the AI perform them and mix them himself. It's allowed him to produce many of his songs that otherwise would never have existed.
"Creative" is just midwitslop they use to pretend that somehow they're creative and the plumber figuring out how to fix your leaking toilet at 3am without having to rip the walls apart isn't. There hasn't been a lot of
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IDK, I’d say the plumber is an engineer. Its art and science.
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Would you buy AI-generated music pressed on vinyl? Would it sound "more authentic"?
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I might. I'd be interested to see how it sounded.
Let's ride this crazy train (Score:2)
The irony is, if someone did have a big hit with their AI generated slop and somehow against all odds, there was demand for a live tour, they actually would need to get some human performers to put on the show.
Since we're already down this rabbit hole, it's worth mentioning that big acts like Taylor Swift already do something similar. A lot of her songs began life in loop-based music editors (which operate by mixing sampled recordings of beats, riffs, bass lines, melodies, etc., rather than traditional not
More train, less crazy, please (Score:2)
I'm really not sure how you interpreted my analogy of a hypothetical AI song being performed live into a rant against major pop artists. I was specifically saying this is just business as usual in the industry and really makes little difference whether the song originated from a loop-based editor or spat out as some AI slop. If it became popular, the path to actually earning some real profit from it (since only the top tier of artists actually earn any money from album sales) would still look very similar
A rarity who can actually play an instrument (Score:2)
> She is objectively a talented individual who is dedicated to her craft
She’s a rarity all right, she’s a popular contemporary artist who can actually play an instrument.
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> The irony is, if someone did have a big hit with their AI generated slop and somehow against all odds, there was demand for a live tour, they actually would need to get some human performers to put on the show.
Gorillaz managed to put on some live shows.
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IIRC, there was a real band playing the Gorillaz shows behind the curtain with the cartoon simians.
They’d probably be happy with robots on stag (Score:2)
> The irony is, if someone did have a big hit with their AI generated slop and somehow against all odds, there was demand for a live tour, they actually would need to get some human performers to put on the show.
Probably not. That fanbase would probably be happy with robots on stage who can blink their LED lips as a lip sync.
"Keep AI Slop Off the Charts" Funny! (Score:2)
Look @ where this is coming from! This is more likely an attempt to keep small independents off the charts to protect the big operators!
Old media will persist, and keep making sales (Score:2)
> One huge AI generated hit, and old media will either have to adapt or begin the slow slide into irrelevance.
No, they will always have some relevance. Always have a product to sell. Each generation eventually grows up and stumbles across a video from the 1960s-90s and has their "holy shit, they play instruments, and it sounds incredible” moment that broadens their horizon.
AI Charts (Score:2)
Ok, well AI will make its own charts that I'm sure will only include AI works.
Human slop still welcome (Score:2)
Industry plants and annoying earworms will still be in the "charts", always have been.
Off the charts (Score:3)
That idiom has another meaning.
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What's a chart? Is that, like a piece of paper? My grandma has a few of those in her house, I think.