Arizona State Launches Influencer Degree Where Students Must Gain Real Followers (dexerto.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/07/28/012244/arizona-state-launches-influencer-degree-where-students-must-gain-real-followers
- Source link: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/arizona-state-launches-influencer-degree-where-students-must-gain-real-followers-3391012/
> The [2]Content Creation BA is housed within ASU's Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication and appears in the university's 2026-2027 course catalog. The 120-credit-hour degree prepares students to become "an influencer and strategic storyteller" by teaching video production, podcasting, personal branding, audience analytics and social media strategy. The program was approved by the ASU University Senate in March 2026. Its proposal said graduates would be prepared to work independently as influencers and content creators across livestreaming, videography, writing, podcasting, graphics and emerging media.
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> [...] For the program's final project, students will choose a social media platform, such as TikTok, create a content and growth strategy, and attempt to gain real followers throughout the semester. "They will have demonstrable audience growth,"
[3]explained Jessica Pucci, senior associate dean at the Cronkite School]. "They will have a platform of their choice with real content and real followers and a real audience behind them." The curriculum includes courses titled How to Become an Influencer, On-Camera Presence, Introduction to Editing, Videography, Podcasting and Audio Storytelling, Social Media Foundations and The Digital Audience.
[1] https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/arizona-state-launches-influencer-degree-where-students-must-gain-real-followers-3391012/
[2] https://degrees.apps.asu.edu/bachelors/major/ASU00/CSCCBA/content-creation
[3] https://www.azfamily.com/2026/07/21/learn-how-be-an-influencer-with-asus-content-creation-major/
Better than an art degree tbh (Score:4, Insightful)
I made the mistake of going to art school thinking it was actually about the art. This sounds closer to what they were actually trying to teach (poorly).
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There are art schools that teach art well. It is just not most of them. You essentially have to go to one of the few best ones on the planet to get a good education, like the "Akademie der bildenden Künste Wien". Getting in is apparently pretty hard though.
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Any good school for teaching art rather than art criticism would be hard. And would probably only teach one school of art. I doubt that hyperrealists would get along with romanticists.
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That is not how that works.
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Worse, this isn't journalism. This is quid pro quo influence peddling. Bribed, grifted, marketed. It's not journalism in any meaningful way.
Story telling is a broad branch of writing involving various elements of fiction.
Journalism should never be involved in fiction.
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Either way, this "degree" in influencer...sounds like another one of those degrees that combined with a $1.50 will get you a cup of coffee (7-11 not Starbucks)....
I really hope to God there's no scholarships or Federal student loan money for this drivel.
I"m not against it being offered...hell, anyone should be able to study anything but stuff like this needs to be on their own dollar.
Let's tie Student Loans and such to degrees that actually stand a realistic chance for the masses studying it to EARN mone
2026 communication degree for athletes (Score:1)
Guessing that's what this is. When it comes to these kind of bullshit degrees when you actually look at the numbers, which are published, very very few people actually get them. It's generally kids with a silver spoon in their mouths who are really dumb, you know like Donald Trump, or the athletes who don't really have time for academics because they're there to play ball.
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Probably. The whole premise set makes no sense. You typically have to be at the bad end of things to get large numbers of followers.
The world needs more influencers (Score:5, Funny)
Also telephone sanitation engineers and hairdressers.
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Also, be a lert, the world needs more lerts.
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Be an A lert, not a B lert.
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A job is a job, stability is a pipe dream, for nobody knows the future. Those radio ads that say "recession-proof career" should have their asses sued off.
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The UK gives out visas for professions that cannot be fulfilled with locals.
Like dog-walkers, ballerina, disk-jockeys, party-clowns.....
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Telephone sanitation is more important than you think. You don't want to get wiped out by a particularly virulent telephone, you know.
The Golgafrinchan 'B' Ark (Score:1)
The leaders of Golgafrincham convinced their populace that the planet was going to be destroyed by an enormous mutant star-goat (or similar nonsense) to purge one-third of society.
They built three arks: Ship 'A' for leaders and scientists, Ship 'B' for middlemen/useless workers, and Ship 'C' for real doers and makers.
Ship 'B' was filled with hairdressers, telephone sanitisers, management consultants, insurance salesmen, and tired TV producers.
Yet another... (Score:2)
degree that provides little value to society. Surely worth mom and dad siphoning the savings or taking out debt to develop those narcissism skills.
Re:Yet another... (Score:4, Insightful)
It's a profession like marketing, and in fact it seems to be what comes after marketing. As a parent of three teenagers I can confirm, that a decent social media campaign can yield more more than thousands of bill boards. There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing this professionally, even if old timers like me shake their heads.
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I don't have any objection to people getting educated on how to be literate with the technology available for doing their jobs and interacting with their world. I also agree - just because I think it's stupid doesn't mean it doesn't have value.
What I have a problem with is not with the information itself, it's with the increasing trend towards abuse. With traditional marketing, it's more obvious that it's sponsored, and there are more obvious standards as far as how far you can go with stretching the t
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There is nothing wrong with professional lying, indoctrination, exploitation and hype-creation? Do you have any morals at all? Or is "making money" the great absolution for all evils in your view?
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Reflecting on it, it could be a useful thing to study from the side of selling pick axes to gold prospectors. The practitioners are drawn to it because it doesn't require an education, but someone with studied experience could design and sell middleware, market peripherals, and so on and make a living.
Goodhart's law (Score:2)
"When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure."
-- Goodhart's law
You can bet that there will be special offers to buy followers in Arizona. Also students will make deals to follow each other and test how many accounts they can create themselves without the social networks noticing.
Re: Goodhart's law (Score:2)
So, uh, just like real world influencers?
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Yep. Just one of the many things wrong with this idea.
Is the teacher qualified? (Score:5, Insightful)
That is, do they have a social media account with at least 50,000 followers?
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The entire program is actually a reality show run by MrBeast.
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I would definitely watch MrBeast attempting to teach college students how to do his job.
Especially if they decided to make it a 'unscripted' show where they picked a bunch of idiots and advised them to act even stupider than they were.
Decide if you are a University or a Trade School (Score:5, Interesting)
Social media influencing is "Marketing". Marketing is an area of theoretical study. A university should be offering degrees in 'bigger picture' areas of expertise that one can take an apply. This is not at all to suggest that academic institutions of that type should not offer, even require course that do focus on a practical application like social media influencing. Because the ability to take the lofty concepts and applying them in practical way is part of being an expert in any given area.
You get a degree in mechanical or possibly 'Automotive' engineering if you want to go to work ultimately designing engines; you absolutely would be doing a good deal of course work that focus on small gasoline powered internal combustion power plants, but your overall area of study is still broader.
Universities need to get smarter about how to track trends and meet immediate labor market needs without spinning up entirely new programs, that are so narrow they face a real possibility of not making any real sense at less than a decade or two down the line. This kind of thing is why the public gets a dim view of education and why more and more people look at the ROI of these degrees and go "nope" even though the analysis might be wrong (after all they haven't had the freshman stats course yet). They see a chart showing how going to work earlier and chasing compound interest with with lower wages beats school and higher wages later on average but forget about the fact that people with 'social media influence degrees" who also end up making coffee pull down the average. Actually getting a degree in mechanical engineering, economics, medical etc, usually will pay off.
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“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
-George Carlin
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Your views may not be as commonly shared as you think.
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Well, universities already offer programs in marketing and performing arts. That said, this should really be called "Advanced Shilling". Let's drop the "influencer" conceit and call it what it is - sales.
Whut? (Score:2)
In so many ways, I don't follow this.
Which platform... (Score:5, Insightful)
How long until a student chooses OnlyFans as their platform?
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Even that would not assure higher follower numbers. There is too much porn and too much porn-adjacent content on the Internet already.
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ASU?
Almost a certainty that the female (and probably some of the male) students already have it.
Arizona State University Offers Business Degree (Score:2)
"Students will be given classes in economics, banking, getting loans and registering businesses selling widgets. To graduate, students must show that their business made a profit."
WTF people?
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This is just the worship of the Great God Mammon, "academic" version.
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To be fair. this is a University with a 90% acceptance rate. It makes Greendale Community college look respectable. No offence Todd.
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> To be fair. this is a University with a 90% acceptance rate. It makes Greendale Community college look respectable. No offence Todd.
That doesn't mean anything. The school acceptance rate doesn't say anything about the quality of education.
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OFFENCE TAKEN! Offence... taken.
An audience of fools (Score:3)
One must ask: why would anyone want to be "influenced" in the first place?
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How about, "why did we start calling salespeople something else?"
Re:calling salespeople something else? (Score:2)
"Sales person" or "marketer" sounds negative. It's kind of how "Janitor" became "Sanitation Engineer". So the new generation is glowmaxing their favorite occupations.
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That is just the thing. People do not want this, but the aim of all good influencing/propaganda/manipulation/indoctrination is to change that and make people like being abused. Pure, undiluted evil, of course, but some people get off on that and others do not care how much harm they cause as long as they earn money.
Streamer U (Score:2)
Arizona State? I thought Streamer University is currently happening at Hendrix College in Conway, Arkansas!?
Streamer University - Wikipedia [1]https://share.google/krqmS3VhP... [share.google]
[1] https://share.google/krqmS3VhPc1ASZw2T
And the best student of the class? (Score:2)
He/she will mysteriously disappear, because people that can manipulate the masses this well are needed elsewhere
Wrong headline (Score:2)
The headline should be "Arizona State University Offers BA in Narcissism"
I remember when they were a school that wasn't a fucking joke - my father got an accounting degree and a CPA from ASU as his second bachelor's.
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While I share your disdain for most "influencers", it's no more narcissistic than, say, public speaking, or politics, or opera (or any singing), or any degree that involves getting in front of people demonstrating skills of one sort or another.
So, you mean sales? (Score:2)
Do you think students would sign up if we called it what it is? "Learn how to be the next Billy Mays!" p It should at least be under the business school. Unless they're looking to generate green power with Cronkite's spinning corpse.
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (Score:2)
...had a wonderful solution for people like these.
Probably a bad idea; not obviously a bad degree. (Score:2)
I find it difficult to believe that 'influencers' are a good sign at a society level; but I'm a little puzzled by the degree of hostility to what is basically a degree for self-employed PR/marketing people.
As much as I'm not happy about it, PR and marketing are absolutely entire fields; and I'd assume that people doing those things whose client is themselves would also benefit from a dash of entertainment related law; contracts and accounting related to dealing with sponsor agreements; and the same sort
PhD's require publishing 'novel' ideas (Score:2)
I mean I get all of this but one thing that I rather disliked about PhD's is the idea that someone is becoming an expert on a topic, by showing that they can advance the topic with a new idea. Sure the idea is the degree leads you to a research company where you need to continue creating new ideas, or a teaching position where you aren't expected to just teach, but continue advancing research but... If we want most of our advanced teachers to hold PhDs to prove they are experts on a topic, why don't we hav
Acquiring followers isn't magic (Score:2)
It's called marketing. Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, influencers don't acquire followers because they're so amazing and people just flock to them. They acquire followers because they engage in good old fashioned...marketing. They literally pay marketers money to get them into your feed.
That gizmo they just discovered and think is amazing? Yeah, they're getting paid to promote it. That restaurant or destination they are gushing about? Yeah, they're getting paid for that too. They work very hard to appear
It is a career field (Score:2)
Remove how silly it sounds from the get-go. It's an evolution of marketing and PR. It should be a specialty or certificate; anyone successful won't stick around for 120 credits. New platforms will be created and fall within the 4 years of required classes.
Content Creator =/= Influencer (Score:1)
Every story I've seen about this new degree has made the same mistake: calling it an "influencer degree". It's for content creation, not influencing. The latter is a subset of the former, but content creation is not specifically influencing.
Well... (Score:2)
On the other hand, nothing tends to turn people off on subjects more than having to take classes on it, so I say go for it!
Degree in Moderation (Score:2)
I will be offering a Degree in Moderation, get every single student in this program to be blocked by every social media platform before they complete their term.
Audience growth (Score:2)
> For the program's final project, students will choose a social media platform, such as TikTok, create a content and growth strategy, and attempt to gain real followers throughout the semester. "They will have demonstrable audience growth,"
So they start with their Mom as a follower and by the end of the year they have about as many followers as are enrolled in the same course
If you failed the real-estate agent exam... (Score:2)
Requires no education, just "vibes". All you have to do is read from a corporate script, and be open to being exploited by having no say in which companies you choose to represent until you strike it big. Success is absolutely not guaranteed, competition is fierce and simply by being highly visible on socials you become a target for weirdos. Sounds like hell to me.
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Agreed, with a caveat: Gender Studies (my daughter has a minor in it) is really a combination of History and Sociology. It's a worthwhile concentration for those going into HR or teaching, to name a couple.
Content Creation is just a new name for Communications or Journalism (though the latter would be quite a stretch). It would be refreshing to see some journalistic rigor and ethics in online content.
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You really can't see why studying human social behavior and history could help in a job where you're dealing with the general public?
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> You really can't see why studying human social behavior and history could help in a job where you're dealing with the general public?
I don't see where "Gender Studies" would apply to any job really....no.
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Gender Studies teacher?
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> Content Creation is just a new name for Communications or Journalism (though the latter would be quite a stretch). It would be refreshing to see some journalistic rigor and ethics in online content.
I can't help but feel like "influencers" main job is to be distracting enough to get the attention of unfocused and easily influenced people. The actual content often has no journalistic integrity. A lot like TV news I guess.
Re:Eh, well, why not? (Score:4, Insightful)
Gender studies is pseudoscience.
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In one glib post, you dun thousands of researchers, not to mention those that don't fit a mold of strictly male and female. It's not only science, but proven science. Open your eyes, please. Accept that there are people who are not like you. Their reality is not necessarily your context or experience. And yours, is not theirs.
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Gender is a social construct, so studying it is equivalent to studying something imaginary? Is that the gist of your argument?
A hot take, but not entirely wrong.
Re:Eh, well, why not? (Score:4, Insightful)
Fox News really is your crack pipe.
Let's hear your breakdown on how gender studies relates to Marxism (which you couldn't explain without googling first).
Some self realization would do you wonders.
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> Let's hear your breakdown on how gender studies relates to Marxism (which you couldn't explain without googling first).
I googled it and I still can't figure it out.
Re:Eh, well, why not? (Score:4, Insightful)
You appear to have awfully strong opinions on something you think should not be studied...
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Astrology, voodoo and divination are all things that aren't real.
Are you saying gender isn't real? That's a rather extreme position I must say. Maybe someone should study why people like you adopt such extreme views on gender and why any discussion of such things makes them so angry. We could name the course "Study about gender" or something like that.
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You'd think these anti trans folks would want Gender Studies to be required curriculum rather than denigrated as a subject. A few might even read a syllabus first.
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Yeah, not two weeks ago my local chik-fil-a wanted me to dress like a cow to get a free sandwich. If they had studied anything they would know that cows are female.
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Legitimate courses at real universities
"Simpsons and Philosophy" (UC Berkeley), using the show to teach philosophical concepts
"Arguing with Judge Judy: Popular 'Logic' on TV Judge Shows" (UC Berkeley), explicitly framed as not a law course but an exercise in spotting logical fallacies used by litigants on courtroom TV
"Sociology of Fame and Lady Gaga" (University of South Carolina), whose syllabus pointedly warns students it's "not a course in Lady Gaga but in sociology," with no music or video allowed in cl
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> Are you saying gender isn't real?
I believe we have a LONG established class on this....Biology.
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If we're reducing gender and its societal implications to "biology", we may as well scrap biology too and start from the first principles of physics.
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Can you point me to a single biology class today studies why angry people have such strong yet inaccurate opinions on gender and studies thereof?
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astrology, voodoo and divination most certainly are real and have deep cultural roots in humans, are you saying that human culture should not be studied, do you think there is nothing to be learned about belief systems just because you don't (I presume) practice those beliefs ?
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In the US, about 4.7 million people (4,7000,000) got a college degree in 2024.
Of those people, less than 10,000 got one in gender studies. (less than 0.22%). Of those 10,000, more than 1,300 (13%) came from one university:
University of Missouri-Columbia
This is not a 'United States" problem really. What appears to be happening is that in a few rare locations (Missouri being one of them) there are a bunch of sexist a-holes. These a-holes create massive problems for a small subset of people, who then go to
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how many jobs are out there that require a degree in Gender Studies specifically (as opposed to "any 4 year degree" types)
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The jobs they get are things like:
Social Worker
Guidance Counselor
Lobbyists
HR in companies that were sued for sexist behavior.
There are more than 20 times positions as graduates.
However, those jobs are mostly relatively poor paying.
From a financial position, I would advise people to go to some mechanics trade school instead. Elevator repair and airplane maintainer are great jobs you can get without a college degree and pay more.
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Would it help you to know that Men's Studies is a sub-field of Gender Studies?
We hear a lot about how young men are disaffected and forgotten by society. Shame nobody is looking into that or trying to understand it, or we could do something about it.
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Yep, sure. Moderate this down. Remember the Gender "studies" programs were the participants were put under secrecy agreements because the material "taught" was so incredibly bad?
Is Arizona even a real state? (Score:2)
Arizona seems like something a californian high on schrooms and lost in the desert made up.
I don't know about a real state (Score:2)
But you're going to have a magical life, because no matter where you go, it will always be better than Tucson.
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Are you two, one person with a split personality?
Or is the coward the jilted boyfriend of Silvergun? And you created a fake account for him on some gay hook up site in Asia?
Love is in the air, everywhere I look around
Love is in the air, every sight and every sound
And I don't know if I'm being foolish
Don't know if I'm being wise
But it's something that I must believe in
And it's there when I look at your posts
Get a room you two.