Elon Musk And Sam Altman Spar On X After Apple Files OpenAI Lawsuit (cnbc.com)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/26/07/12/1842219/elon-musk-and-sam-altman-spar-on-x-after-apple-files-openai-lawsuit
- Source link: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/12/elon-musk-and-sam-altman-spar-.html
> This week, SpaceX released the Grok 4.5 generative AI model, while OpenAI debuted its own GPT-5.6 Sol. For days, Musk and Altman have hyped up their respective releases, but on Saturday the rivalry got personal. In response to a post about Apple filing suit against OpenAI on Friday over [2]alleged theft of trade secrets, Musk [3]wrote , "Scam Altman strikes again ...." Minutes after his post, Musk [4]doubled down , writing, "He takes scamming to a whole new level." Next, Musk [5]published a photo of Altman that included the words, "I'm doing this because I love it."
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> "By 'this' he means scamming," Musk wrote, including two rolling-on-the-floor-laughing emojis. Musk then [6]replied to that post, writing, "He might literally love scamming more than any human alive!"
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> The flurry of social activity got Altman's attention. "[H]omeboy you're the one sellling public market investors on short-term space datacenters," Altman wrote in an [7]X post of his own that garnered over 11 million views.
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> "We start flying them next year. Maybe you can come see them if your parole officer approves," Musk [8]fired back .
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> Separately, Altman put Musk's fresh wave of attention in the context of OpenAI's fresh model release. "[T]here are a lot of benchmarks that suggest 5.6 sol is the best model in the world right now, but the most reliable way to tell is that elon is obsessed with me again," Altman wrote [9]on X .
Reacting to another post, [10]Altman wrote that he was "not afraid of apple, but i have tremendous respect for them. s-tier company," CNBC reports — leading to a [11]sarcastic response from X's head of product. "Incredible trade secrets as well, some of the best."
And CNBC notes that Musk " [12]replied with a face-with-tears-of-joy emoji."
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/12/elon-musk-and-sam-altman-spar-.html
[2] https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/10/apple-openai-lawsuit-trade-secrets.html
[3] https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2075886243246649406
[4] https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2075892136604573903
[5] https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2075926239848611976
[6] https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2075926480387776675
[7] https://x.com/sama/status/2075982617976230043
[8] https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2076070258654183767
[9] https://x.com/sama/status/2075983427019612242
[10] https://x.com/sama/status/2076034575311278319
[11] https://x.com/nikitabier/status/2076038516056969424
[12] https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2076100183100682607
tl;dr (Score:1)
Two excremental individuals... hating on one another.
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Much like a visit to the monkey house at the old Central Park zoo. Plexiglass and poop.
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Be thankful for the plexiglass...
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If their AIs were worth a shit they could get it to do all of the hating for them. If I were a billionaire I wouldn't waste my time with slap fights on social media.
Awful people are trading insults on Twitter (Score:5, Funny)
This is not news for nerds. This is not stuff that matters.
I know that ship sailed long ago, and slashdot is kinda mid-grade engagement bait these days, but come on , there is no pretense of substance in this one. It's monkeys flinging poo on the front page. Please try to be better than this.
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This at least about relevant companies/people in the tech industry even if it's the equivalent of celebrity drama. The story is here to farm engagement and ad impressions because AI is one of those topics that people have strong opinions on anyway and roping in the CEO/founders who many people have even stronger opinions about ensures maximum engagement.
Re:Awful people are trading insults on [Slashdot] (Score:2)
Wrong on both counts, though I concur that the selection of stories could be better. MUCH better. Why don't you become a Slashdot editor?
It's pretty sad that so many nerds idolize these fools as role models. Maybe just young wannabe nerds, but they still gobble up this kind of news and gossip.
Even sadder that their petty squabbles and twisted personalities matter so much. This is how the money works these years. But I think the funniest part is that their patron saint Adam Smith is to completely misundersto
Re: Awful people are trading insults on [Slashdot] (Score:1)
"the great insult artists of yore are long gone"
Did banning trolls stop trolling from taking over the presidency and powerful billionaires who run your lives?
If they were just too awful people yeah (Score:1)
But they're too awful people with hundreds of billions of dollars at their disposal.
They get to decide how you live your life. So that's why we have to pay attention to what they say
Cost (Score:3)
Right now, we have AI models that are good enough, what we need is for someone to focus on making them affordable, because even the Enterprise level for Github Copilot doesn't let you do anything remotely resembling the level of usage I was at before they changed their business model. I used to talk to Copilot all day long and I didn't really do anything manually anymore, with excellent results. It coded a lot better than I ever did and since it freed me from mundane work I could focus on making an excellent OOP architecture with great performance and security. Including refactoring legacy code to bring it up to the level of quality you can get in minutes. Now instead of minutes everything takes me entire weeks. Ah the joys of old-fashioned artisanal coding. After 3 years I barely know how to code anymore.
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So what you are saying is that good coding used to take time, now it just takes a lot more money?
Pistols at dawn (Score:2)
Let's have a good old fashioned duel.
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Give the spectators guns as well - that way if Sam and Elon both miss, others can finish the job.
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Ha! My kingdom for mod points!
Two of the most powerful men on Earth (Score:1)
Are bickering like children in public. At a certain point you take the gun away from the children. That gun is the stupid amount of money that they have.
You don't have to take the gun away from the child but you don't get to complain when the kids shoots you.
In this case the metaphor means they are going to load your 401K with bogus crap stock that's going to collapse and you're going to be working until you drop dead.
Re: Two of the most powerful men on Earth (Score:1)
Where is the Fed put in your story?
Alien vs. Predator (Score:4)
Whoever wins, we lose.
This is like the Gambino and Genovese crime families going at each other.
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More like Beavis vs. Butthead
Why focus on the Elon/Sam fight? (Score:2)
The story about the greedy bright bulbs which OpenAI poached from Apple who have no clue about opsec interested me more.
OpenAI is not hiring the best ... Sam's little hardware adventure a giant waste of money now with a giant liability from criminal behaviour attached.
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"Sam's little hardware adventure a giant waste of money ..."
As is any project involving Jony Ive. Let's not forget all the magnificent frauds involved!
Oh look, the spoiled brats are fighting (Score:2)
Why should the rest of us give a shit? Why even give them the attention? They're both shitheads who don't care about the regular person.
Re: Musk posts an emoji (Score:2)
When you are in an echo chamber and everyone kisses your ass, they no longer think like the rest of us (insert people with at least 15-20 million in the bank, billionaires and now a trillionaire).
It warps people and they think people care what they have to say.
Takes one to know one (Score:2)
Elon is an expert about scammers, clearly
Yeah OpenAI is a scam (Score:3, Interesting)
How many years in a row has Musk promised FSD? How many people did he actually take money from only to never deliver the feature?
It just goes to show that money can't make someone not a pathetic crybaby.
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Watch the [1]TFL Tesla Hands Free [youtube.com] series and report back that you still don't think it exists.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tfl+hands+free+2000+ep+1
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No goal posts were moved. FSD was never delivered. They even were forced to change the name to clarify it's not "fully self driving" which is why they put the word supervised after it in brackets.
Also I claimed it was never delivered to people who ordered it. With the average ownership of a new car being 5 years, and given the first time Musk promised FSD would be delivered in 2017, leaving aside the fact Tesla does not offer L4 autonomous FSD for any consumers in any jurisdiction right now, can you point t
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He claimed the AC moved the goalposts in response to your comment, not that your comment was wrong.
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> Watch the [1]TFL Tesla Hands Free [youtube.com] series and report back that you still don't think it exists.
It objectively doesn't. You don't need to watch videos, you just need to go to Tesla's own website and see how they advertise it : "Full Self-Driving (Supervised) " to demonstrate it's not what Musk has promised. You just need to look up what autonomy level their system is classified as.
I'm not legally allowed to sit and play with my phone while the car drives itself, so whatever video you show me is completely irrelevant. They have not certified a self driving system for public use, period. Tesla has precis
[1] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tfl+hands+free+2000+ep+1
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"Full Self-Driving"... for sufficiently loose definitions of "full".
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Tesla's own FSD puts sugar on its porridge.
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Gonorrhea exists but that doesn't mean you want it regardless of how great Elon Musk says it is.
Any self-driving system that relies on the inadequate sensors that Tesla has cheaped out on should be permanently outlawed. Frankly, FSD should never be legal.
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"He might literally love scamming more than any human alive!"
Rich coming from Elon Musk, the biggest scammer outside of Donald Trump alive.
Elon Musk, for one of his scams, claims to have created the "first and largest" Tesla solar residential subdivision in Austin. It is called "SunHouse at Easton Park" and claims to be a 12,000 home master-planned community.
Thing is, Easton Park is that master-planned community, NOT SunHouse. SunHouse is literally FIVE midrange homes that Musk got one of the builders to