Notion Mail Is Shutting Down
- Reference: 0184094382
- News link: https://slashdot.org/story/26/06/25/2038233/notion-mail-is-shutting-down
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> It has published an [3]FAQ for users to make sure that they don't lose any messages or data in the transition. Most emails will still exist in a Gmail inbox, but customers will need to manually export their drafts, scheduled emails, snippets and auto label instructions.
Notion first began offering Notion Mail after acquiring startup Skiff [4]in 2024 .
[1] https://x.com/NotionMail/status/2070177264457715817
[2] https://www.engadget.com/2201940/notion-mail-is-shutting-down/
[3] https://www.notion.com/help/notion-mail-inbox-is-going-away-what-to-do-next
[4] https://it.slashdot.org/story/24/10/24/1437205/note-taking-app-notion-readies-email-product
Can't Wrap My Head Around Notion (Score:3)
What is Notion? From their website they are all things to all people AND AI!!!!! But, I can't wrap my head around what it actually is, with or without email.
Can anyone explain what it is and/or who its competitors are?
Re:Can't Wrap My Head Around Notion (Score:5, Informative)
It's a wiki. It's an ultra shitty clone of Confluence. We used it at my last company and it sucked ass. Some people use it for general note taking.
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Confluence use to be really awesome back around 2012. It's sad how far both have fallen. Atlasian murders everything it touches.
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My last org decided to cut costs by migrating nearly 1000 documents from Confluence to... SharePoint. You wanna talk about crappy software.
Nobody listened when told them I could fire up a usable xwiki container, like, right this minute, for precisely $0.
I moved on to a new job (with more competent leadership) before I had to face the task of converting Confluence pages to Word docs in SharePoint.
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If you tell someone "it's a wiki" nowadays they usually just stare blankly at you. You have to say it's a SaaS collaborative notetaking platform to get any glimmer of understanding.
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It started as a very easy to use wiki, for internal knowledge at a company. It still is good for that use case.
But they tried to bolt on everything else under the sun to it, and it now tries to compete with Trello, Asana, Monday, JIRA, and everything else... and now apparently GMail as well.
The more a company tries to do in Notion ("because we already have it"), the more messy and unusable of a mess it becomes.
Who, and who? (Score:5, Funny)
News for nobody. Stuff that doesn't matter.
Nothing + Claude (Score:3)
Notion is really only valuable as a memory/brain for Claude these days. It actually excels at that when used properly. I was also annoyed by their gmail/calendar inetgration though. It really wanted to take over the inbox and tag things how it wanted. I just didn't understand the point of it.
Never heard of either Notion/Skiff (Score:2)
It’s doubling down on agentic AI for your inbox instead. Notion Mail does not have a large, active user base. Doesn't sound like a big loss !
Re: Never heard of either Notion/Skiff (Score:4, Insightful)
This is a death spiral for a lot of software and services. "Only 45% of our users use this feature, so we can cut it. Only 15 percent use this feature so we can cut it." Repeat a couple of times.
But, those features that might have seemed like niche features were the feature that those customers valued. So now, 45% of your users just stop being users. Yes-yes they probably used the other features too, but, they needed the feature that you cut, so they have to go else where to find it.
I've seen it over and over. Version 1 of software has 100 features. Version two, developed using Agile Methodologies, some witt sets the priorities for features such that any feature used by fewer than 25% of users is so low a priority that it never gets implemented. That's enough features that every user uses at least a couple of them, in a non-overlapping mess of usage patterns.
Everyone is unhappy, management decides it's because they didn't have needed features and instead had a something that no one actually wanted, but became someone's personal hill to die on in a planning meeting, and no one can tell him no. So they implement the feature, and 75% of users turn it off... so next update that "feature" can't be turned off because someone went to bat so hard for it that they can't cope with the idea that they should have just implemented the missing old features.
Got a bit ranty, don't use Notion, but it sounds like whoever is in charge has notions.