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Some Electricians Think Building Data Centers Is For Sellouts (wired.com)

(Monday June 22, 2026 @05:00PM (BeauHD) from the work-is-work dept.)


An anonymous reader quotes a report from Wired:

> As Big Tech dumps billions of dollars into America's data center buildout, a slew of opportunities have opened up to the electricians wiring these massive facilities. In some cases, the scale of the projects and the demanding construction timelines are fueling talent wars for the industry's best and brightest. The US-based International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) has [1]argued that its workers are "powering the AI Revolution," and a set of "Data Center Principles" [2]published in March argues that union labor is "essential to the future of AI." Tech companies are trying to meet the moment: Meta recently [3]announced a skilled trade academy program, and Google [4]committed $50 million to help train people in skilled trades.

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> But amid growing national opposition to data centers, debates over the ethics of the massive buildout have started to pop up in some online pockets of the community. Threads about how AI will affect the economy now pepper r/electricians, a subreddit with around half a million monthly visitors. Some users wonder whether the work will eventually prompt widespread job losses. Others aren't sure if their labor makes them complicit in the damage done to local communities or whether it's unethical to take on data center work. For some, the answer is a firm no. Ultimately, they argue, work is work.

An anonymous Midwest electrician who spoke to Wired acknowledged concerns about scams, corporate greed, and AI's impact on workers, but said he views data centers as an important source of career advancement. "This is most likely going to be a major part of our future. And if you can't beat them, join them," he said.

An electrician named Ryan, meanwhile, is strongly opposed to working on data centers because he distrusts the corporations and political environment driving AI development. Still, if the facilities are going to be built, he would prefer union workers construct them. "If they're going to get built, I'd rather they go union," he said.

Jesse, an IBEW electrician, sympathizes with communities negatively affected by data centers but does not believe the electricians building them should be blamed. In his view, opposition should instead be directed toward policymakers and the project approval process. "I think it's ridiculous if, to build a data center or any kind of a business, you're going to significantly impact the lives of that community in a negative way," he told Wired.

An electrician named Dante echoed some of those sentiments, arguing that data center work is no more ethically compromised than many other commercial construction projects. "We're almost always working for the worst possible people in the end, but we all need a paycheck," he said. He added that such projects are "essentially the same kind of work," typically performed for wealthy corporations seeking to become even richer.



[1] https://ibew332.org/newsletter/fall-2025/members-build-the-data-centers-of-the-future/

[2] https://ibewgov.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/IBEW-Data-Center-Principles-2.pdf

[3] https://about.fb.com/news/2026/06/americas-workforce-academy-free-skilled-trade-training/

[4] https://blog.google/company-news/outreach-and-initiatives/google-org/skilled-trades/



Is vice signaling the new virtue signaling? (Score:2, Funny)

by bryanandaimee ( 2454338 )

Datacenters are literally Hitler, but I need the money, so ...

Re: Is vice signaling the new virtue signaling? (Score:4, Informative)

by linear a ( 584575 )

Godwin's law kicked in early on this thread.

Re: Is vice signaling the new virtue signaling? (Score:5, Insightful)

by Misagon ( 1135 )

I would say that recent developments have made Godwin's Law obsolete.

Re: (Score:2)

by bryanandaimee ( 2454338 )

I guess I inadvertently (advertently?) derailed the major point with the minor one, but it does seem to me that professed beliefs take a back seat these days to personal benefit. There seems to be a significant trend to lean into it in fact (ergo "Vice signaling"). "I think it's evil, but until someone makes it illegal I'm going to get mine." Is it a new thing or as old as time? I don't know. It seems to be more blatant/unapologetic these days.

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by Locke2005 ( 849178 )

Data centers are strong evidence of a death cult, but I'd avoid invoking Godwin's Law.

Re: (Score:2)

by bryanandaimee ( 2454338 )

Not sure why anyone would bother to avoid it anymore. I was of course mocking the "literally Hitler" crowd, but it's been done to the point that it's meaningless. I doubt Godwin's law has any relevance in today's society. Almost any moderately difficult discussion starts at literally Hitler and devolves from there. If you use disposable water bottles you're literally Hitler. Any opinion you might possibly have? You guessed it, literally Hitler.

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by Brain-Fu ( 1274756 )

Downplaying Godwin's law is literally Hitler.

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by bryanandaimee ( 2454338 )

Nice

Re: (Score:2)

by Locke2005 ( 849178 )

Sorry, I took you joke seriously. Poe's Law.

Re: (Score:2)

by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) *

The guys who built those giant ovens could have told themselves that somebody was going to be baking a whole lot of bread ... very inefficiency.

Somebody wired up all those ICBM missile silos too. The ones who do think all of the above is just fine. There will always be someone.

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by rta ( 559125 )

> Datacenters are literally Hitler, but I need the money, so ...

except for the noise issue in some places, which COULD be solved with engineering (possibly driven by zoning Code changes), data centers are like the best "industry". they didn't cause traffic, they don't cause any local pollution... compared to the taxes and employment they give of, I can't think of something with lower impact. (of the top of my head. )

and the noise issue isn't inherent. the few data centers I've been in were silent from the outside in normal operation. (vs when running backup gene

It's the water: Re:Is vice signaling (Score:2)

by Marc_Hawke ( 130338 )

At least in my neck of the woods, we have ZERO spare water. We're in a 'negative water' situation. Using any water is a problem. That makes the narrative that data-centers are 'water hungry' very effective at causing unrest.

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by omnichad ( 1198475 )

The latency of the actual processing is way higher than the latency of network distance. Why are these being built where water isn't plentiful? They could literally build a combination hydro plant and data center in one and use the same water for cooling as they do for power generation. It's the way of the original industrial revolution to build along rivers.

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by Jumperalex ( 185007 )

The answer is land cost, power access and cost, tax incentives, zoning. In no particular order.

Or said another way, until recently the impact of water-over-use was an external cost in the decision process. Just like power over-use was. Now they both are being factored into permitting requirements and that means cost have the costs finally.

By costs here I don't mean the rates they negotiate for consumption of either water or power. I mean the cost of scaling production and distribution to prevent everyone el

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by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

> At least in my neck of the woods, we have ZERO spare water. We're in a 'negative water' situation. Using any water is a problem. That makes the narrative that data-centers are 'water hungry' very effective at causing unrest.

And many places where they put them up, they don't have enough power infrastructure either. So power bills go up as well.

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by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

> That makes the narrative that data-centers are 'water hungry' very effective at causing unrest.

Which is probably why that narrative gets pushed so hard. You CAN build a datacentre with evaporative cooling and that will use a lot of water. You can also build one with a closed loop and radiators that doesn't use any water except for the original fill. You can even build one that's air cooled and doesn't use any water at all.

All of those options also apply to anything else that needs to be cooled, which is pre

Just accel the move from Blue to Red states (Score:2)

by MIPSPro ( 10156657 )

It's okay. The anti-datacenter sentiment and protests are a great thing . Why? Not because it will stop data centers from being built, but because it'll cause them to move from places like California to places like West Virginia. That's awesome. I love it. Take those high paying jobs & their income taxes away from lefty nutjob governments with "diverse" residents and move it to a place like West Virginia which thankfully isn't diverse and also has a lot of poor folks who could use those extra electrician

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by dfghjk ( 711126 )

There are no high paying jobs in data centers, just destruction of quality of life for locals. Perfect for red states, they are accustomed to being shit on, they vote for it.

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by sarren1901 ( 5415506 )

Shssh, don't tell them guns are made in factories that...wait for it...require electricity. Guess all those electricians should be help accountable same as the gun manufacturer.

While we are at it, might as well sue Chevy and Coors for drunk driving. Sue sunscreen makers for skin cancer and the list goes on. I wanna sue the gas station for selling gas...

Or there is absolutely ZERO outrage here and electricians are going to electrician.

P.S. Should we burn all the doughnut shops down since cops eat donuts? Tha

Why would anybody sell out? (Score:3)

by Locke2005 ( 849178 )

"Ever since the Phoenicians invented money, there has only been one answer to that question." -- Clarence Darrow

Re: (Score:2)

by rta ( 559125 )

"I want to set the record straight:

I thought the cop was a prostitute."

- Homer Simpson

[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnttBhGVytc

Not everyone can be enlightened (Score:2, Insightful)

by argStyopa ( 232550 )

Let's keep our focus on the people behind these projects, shall we? Not the caterers, the electricians, the plumbers, or the company that mows their lawn. They're just trying to pay the bills man.

Yes, I get it, if it's your holy mission to oppose AI datacenters sure, you go right ahead and chain yourself to the front gate. But the fact is that most people don't have the luxury to morally evaluate their job for nuances of "whatever is bothering reddit today".

capitalism is for sellouts (Score:1)

by drinkypoo ( 153816 )

This is why there's no ethical consumption under capitalism. The worst people have the most money because they have no compunctions about harming others.

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by dfghjk ( 711126 )

"The worst people have the most money because they have no compunctions about harming others."

Yes, that's why capitalism must be regulated, precisely the opposite of what Republicans have pursued since the 80s.

Re: capitalism is for sellouts (Score:2)

by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 )

Is that what got you started on you drinking your own poo? Why didn't you just try Cuba first?

Wow (Score:2)

by not.a.socialist ( 6650346 )

The electricians comments smell like coder comments

Death Star (Score:3)

by TwistedGreen ( 80055 )

"We're almost always working for the worst possible people in the end, but we all need a paycheck."

Funny, that's exactly what I'd imagine the electricians and other trades who built the Death Star would've said.

Hard to feel sympathy for them when it exploded. They knew the risks.

Re: (Score:2)

by DarkOx ( 621550 )

Randal's argument was never legitimate. It supposed those trades people were free agents who could turn down the job without getting force choked.

Re: (Score:2)

by Jumperalex ( 185007 )

> ... without getting force choked.

harder daddy

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by Jumperalex ( 185007 )

Why did I have to scroll this far for this comment.

Oh bullshit astroturf (Score:1)

by RightwingNutjob ( 1302813 )

All this agitating against evil data centers is coming from exactly the same "don't build that" crowd that hates factories, power plants, roads, housing developments and the rest.

"Do not lose your knowledge that man's proper estate is an upright posture,
an intransigent mind, and a step that travels unlimited roads."
-- John Galt, in Ayn Rand's _Atlas Shrugged_