Fedora's AI Developer Desktop Initiative Blocked by Community Backlash (itsfoss.com)
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- News link: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/26/05/16/0815220/fedoras-ai-developer-desktop-initiative-blocked-by-community-backlash
- Source link: https://itsfoss.com/news/fedora-ai-developer-desktop-stalled/
> The initiative was proposed by Red Hat engineer Gordon Messmer, aiming to deliver an Atomic Desktop with accelerated AI workload support, covering developer tools, hardware enablement, and building a community around AI on Fedora... At the [3]May 6 council meeting, the members unanimously voted to approve this new initiative. After which a short, lazy consensus window was left open until May 8 to accommodate absent members, after which the decision was to be ratified.
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> But that last bit never happened, as council member Justin Wheeler (Jflory7) was the first person to [4]change their vote to -1 ... ["While I strongly support leveraging AI to establish Fedora as a leading platform, completely rearchitecting our kernel strategy is a massive structural shift. It requires explicit alignment with our legal and engineering stakeholders before we commit the project to this path."] Following that, fellow council member Miro HronÄok (churchyard) [5]put in his -1 , saying that he had originally assumed the proposal was purely additive and therefore uncontroversial. But seeing the community's response, he realized that he was mistaken about that. As an elected representative, he felt the need to reflect on this major proposal before signing it off.
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> Over 180 replies have piled up in the proposal's [6]discussion thread , with many well-known Fedora contributors pushing back on things like kernel policy, proprietary software, and project identity. Hans de Goede from the packaging team called out the proposal's emphasis on [7]CUDA support as going against Fedora's foundational commitment to free software, arguing that open alternatives like AMD's [8]ROCm and Intel's [9]oneAPI should be the focus instead.
[1] https://itsfoss.com/news/fedora-ai-developer-desktop-stalled/
[2] https://forge.fedoraproject.org/council/tickets/issues/562
[3] https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-council-meeting-2026-05-06-innovation-lifecycle-policy-f44-interviews-and-ai-desktop/190575
[4] https://forge.fedoraproject.org/council/tickets/issues/562#issuecomment-698875
[5] https://forge.fedoraproject.org/council/tickets/issues/562#issuecomment-711131
[6] https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-ai-developer-desktop-objective/184941/
[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA
[8] https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/rocm.html
[9] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/tools/oneapi/overview.html
Do it or others do it (Score:2)
Currently AI devs mostly use Ubuntu often LTS. Ubuntu already decided to ship the required libraries in the next releases to make it even simpler to get started. If Redhat wants people to use Redhat systems for developing future apps, they need to adapt as well. They can decide that's not their market, but that's an active decision against a segment of their potential user base.
Re: Do it or others do it (Score:2)
Agreed. But this should be a Fedora Spin so those who want it can get it easily and thise who do not, need not even see it.
Machines?! (Score:2)
Don't bring your filthy machines to our factory or will stick shoes into the gears!
It's just taking away good jobs from good people and replacing them with clunky, expensive machines that breakdown all the time. They cannot match a human craftsman!!
AKA welcome to the industrial revolution part deux.
CUDA is an albatross (Score:2)
When it comes to AI (and tooling) "It's complicated". Developers who want (need) to use the nvidia tooling (CUDA) need something that Fedora has never been (stable and slow moving). Perhaps when the nova-core nvidia module is available in linux things could be different, although that will be true only if nvidia helps.
Re: CUDA is an albatross (Score:2)
The most stable Linux distro I ever used was Slackware, all the other distros have too much cruft & kludge to be stable, I know my comment will step on some toes and to that I say "que sera sera"