NSA Using Anthropic's Mythos Despite Blacklist (axios.com)
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- News link: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/26/04/20/0353220/nsa-using-anthropics-mythos-despite-blacklist
- Source link: https://www.axios.com/2026/04/19/nsa-anthropic-mythos-pentagon
> The government's cybersecurity needs appear to be outweighing the Pentagon's feud with Anthropic. The department moved in February to cut off Anthropic and force its vendors to follow suit. That case is ongoing. The military is now broadening its use of Anthropic's tools while simultaneously arguing in court that using those tools threatens U.S. national security.
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> Two sources said the NSA was using Mythos, while one said the model was also being used more widely within the department. It's unclear how the NSA is currently using Mythos, but other organizations with access to the model are using it predominantly to [3]scan their own environments for exploitable security vulnerabilities.
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> Anthropic restricted access to Mythos to around 40 organizations, contending that its offensive cyber capabilities were too dangerous to allow for a wider release. Anthropic only announced 12 of those organizations. One source said the NSA was among the unnamed agencies with access. The NSA's counterparts in the U.K. have said they have access to the model through the country's AI Security Institute.
Anthropic's CEO [4]met with top U.S. officials on Friday to discuss "opportunities for collaboration," according to a White House spokesperson, "as well as shared approaches and protocols to address the challenges associated with scaling this technology."
[1] https://www.axios.com/2026/04/19/nsa-anthropic-mythos-pentagon
[2] https://slashdot.org/story/26/03/05/2233247/pentagon-formally-designates-anthropic-a-supply-chain-risk
[3] https://it.slashdot.org/story/26/04/07/2115208/anthropic-unveils-claude-mythos-powerful-ai-with-major-cyber-implications
[4] https://yro.slashdot.org/story/26/04/18/039221/us-government-now-wants-anthropics-mythos-preparing-for-ai-cybersecurity-threats
Smoke, mirrors and reality show (Score:3, Informative)
Anthropics "blacklisting" was basically a few social media posts by Hegseth, followed by the resulting court cases. It's a massive amount of reality-show drama for the cost of a few social media posts and a couple of court cases where good-looking lawyers pose and give histrionic over-the-top speeches in front of judges that are barely able to stop themselves from rolling their eyes. It's awesome entertainment for the masses, on an incredibly low budget.
Meanwhile, the military is quietly still using Anthropic's products, and Anthropic is definitely continuing to get paid.
You can pay attention to the reality show, or you can pay attention to the reality.
Re:Smoke, mirrors and reality show (Score:5, Informative)
> Anthropics "blacklisting" was basically a few social media posts by Hegseth,..You can pay attention to the reality show, or you can pay attention to the reality.
My understanding is the DoD formally declared Anthropic a supply chain risk, which legally obligates all US federal government agencies (and recursively their suppliers) to stop using Anthropic code. I have no idea how many contracts actually were terminated. Lawsuits immediately started flying and I though the designation was stayed.
Regardless, this is much, much more serious to Anthropic than a few tweets. It's real money and real loss of business.
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and, yet, somehow, Claude continues to be used all over the federal government. So much for "formal declarations". And, no matter who says what on social medial, the legality of the situation is determined by the courts. Nobody else. No matter how orange their skin is or how square their jawline is.
And, if the gubbermint is still using Claude, Anthropic is definitely still continuing to get paid in some way or another. So, I kinda doubt it's hurt their business much.
Again, watch the reality, not the r
Buzz (Score:5, Insightful)
It's genius. Say the product is too dangerous, and you can't have it. Have the few people who actual touch it sign NDAs.
Sit back watch the news go wild.
Company valuation jumps.
Anthropic Mythos: the all seeing AI (Score:2)
[1]PalantÃri | The One AI to Rule Them All [medium.com]
[2]DIA Declassified: A Sourcebook [gwu.edu]
[1] https://medium.com/@kendal_4980/palantir-and-the-return-of-the-king-76d40eea502e
[2] https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB534-DIA-Declassified-Sourcebook/
All Versions are Security Risks (Score:1)
Claude's admin controls are far behind where they need to be. Way too much power is given to individual user authorization to do things that could damage the entire company even if you disable nearly all plugins/skills/connectors and this includes the previous versions of Claude, not just Mythos. At this point the only true security is good backup and its a wonder more companies aren't having to do full file system restores due to users exporting random code generated and running it. Anthropic might get the
Another new era in fuckery (Score:2)
I'm not nearly as worried about the NSA and Mythos as I am about what Trump's sycophants will do with it to mess with the upcoming elections, the Dem's email systems, and to trap and frame his political "enemies".
but remember (Score:1)
there is no deep state and elections have consequences..
Yeah sure.
It worked (Score:2)
The myth of Mythos has done its job. How long do you think before Hegseth is DEMANDING to be give access?
NSA (Score:4, Informative)
They're not accountable to anyone in the US government. I'm not even sure if congress or the president can shut them down. They're very dangerous.
Re: NSA (Score:4, Informative)
The government is the top of the food chain they are not accountable to ANYBODY, they can do what they want to anyone at any time, the laws and government regulations they profess is just lip service to keep the sheep from panicking.
The USA started out as a federal republic but has since degenerated into a kleprocratic neo-feudalist banana-republic run by a criminal mafia oligarchy
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For me, in 2026, anybody who talks in such cynical, doomer language need to answer one question before we even think about taing them seriously: who have you been voting for?
The past decade of learning about the structure and function of the US government has made me far less cynical about the actual government and far more cynical about the voters who decide who should run it.
Re: NSA (Score:3)
I quit voting after 9/11/2001
[1]https://rumble.com/v3jj4nw-doc... [rumble.com]
this nation is too screwed up for elections to fix it
[1] https://rumble.com/v3jj4nw-documentary-all-wars-are-bankers-wars.html
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If you don't vote, then you are not entitled to complain when you don't agree with the outcome.
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The First Amendment to the Constitution says otherwise. You can be entitled, cynical, annoying to you, or otherwise, but you're allowed to voice your opinion. You have exactly **zero** say in this matter. See you later, alligator.
Re: NSA (Score:2)
Oh yeah? You just watch me continue to criticize the government in the harshest way I can
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"People on [the internet] will really be like 'you believe in voting? that pales in effectiveness to my strategy, firebombing a Walmart' and then not firebomb a Walmart."
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Ahh, the perfectionist approach. Your vote didn't fix everything, therefore there's no reason to try to make any progress.
It's right up there with "I tried exercising once, but I didn't lose weight that day. Therefore ..."
Nihilism like this is common, and often encouraged by propagandists.
It's also a mistake.
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As a retort to me being cynical about voters you link a Rumble video called "All Wars are Banker Wars" and this is supposed to make me *less* cynical about voters? (((I think we all know what you mean)))
This type of trash making people not vote (or really, you probably voted for Trump) is why I am cynical about voters. If anything this resolves me to support the government getting more onerous about this type of media fucking with all our lives.
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"...far more cynical about the voters who decide who should run it."
That is misguided. Voters pull the lever for the wrong people, but there's an enormously corrupt effort to control how that turns out.
And the originator of this thread was an extremely vocal Trump supporter. It's not so popular to claim credit for that these days.
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If we want to talk about how fucked our media environment is I am right there with you and that to me is a much more fruitful area to focus on than the boring old "voting doesn't matter, uniparty" bullshit.
The parties couldn't be more different right now. Does that make Democrats perfect or even good? Not really but they are in fact quite different than Republicans and stand for quite different things.
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> to keep independents out of mind and off the ballot when possible
Independents by their nature are not part of the party so why should we care? The Democrats are a big tent party, there's space for your Jon Testers and Joe Manchins to Zohrans and Bernie Sanders. You want to have a say in the party you need to be part of the party not sneering at it from the outside.
> Count the millionaires in congress
Now count how many billionaires were in Biden's cabinet versus Trump's cabinet. Also most members of Congress are going to get a net worth of $1m plus, lot's of them are old, that isn't uncommon so be more sp
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> But I also know better than to vote for a republican or democrat,
Well then continue to be absolutely irrelevant at best and more likely just an accomplice to fascism. You can either grow up and be an adult or continue to act like a petulant child and then act like you're above emotions. Most of us can't just act like we're 15 forever.
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Does it matter who you voted for? The WIKILeaks DNC leak clearly showed that they didn't care who you voted for in the primaries Hillary was getting the nod in some powerplay. Then you had no choice to vote for anyone but Kamala in the last election. Voting is an act.
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Yes, it matter quite a lot.
Hold on a second, if it was fixed from the start then why was there months of consternation and intrique when Bernie was running around winning early states and grabbing momentum? All part of the show? Every person is in on it?
I remember in 2020 when Biden was considered a longshot still until the SC primary. All part of the show?
This is why conspiracy theorists simply cannot be taken seriously, it's "all roads lead to Rome" all the time. It requires a level of shutting of your
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You're probably right. There was nothing in the 2016 DNC Wikileaks that pointed to anti-bernie sentiment or a pro hillary agenda. Nobody resigned in disgrace and it was all a conspiracy. I didn't discuss the 2020 election, just the 2016 and the 2024 where there was questionable behavior.
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If you think it's a conspiracy that Bernie failed to make any inroads with black and minority voters sure, you go right ahead. Unless you're going full magatard and you think the votes were rigged otherwise Hillary and Biden got more votes. I say this as a two-time Bernie primary voter. He just didn't get the votes and it didn't help that he had some of the worst fucking people on his campaign staff. I love Bernie but he's shite at staffing.
Was there an anti-Bernie sentiment amongst the party executives
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"The USA started out as a federal republic but has since degenerated into a kleprocratic neo-feudalist banana-republic run by a criminal mafia oligarchy"
That the person you responded to FULLY supports, interestingly.
Re:NSA (Score:5, Informative)
The President can order the murders of all NSA staff, he can bomb NSA resources, and thanks to your party, the President can do this with "absolute immunity". Let's not forget the consequences of the people you support gaining power.
Not that anything you said has merit. The NSA is part of the DoD, is the DoD accountable?
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They defunded the predecessor the TIA by a vote in congress in 2003. It can be done again if people actually cared. If Snowden revealing the depths the NSA was probing it's own citizens didn't wake anyone up, it likely never will.