EFF Is Leaving X (eff.org)
- Reference: 0181496244
- News link: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/26/04/09/1656219/eff-is-leaving-x
- Source link: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/04/eff-leaving-x
> We posted to Twitter (now known as X) five to ten times a day in 2018. Those tweets garnered somewhere between 50 and 100 million impressions per month. By 2024, our 2,500 X posts generated around 2 million impressions each month. Last year, our 1,500 posts earned roughly 13 million impressions for the entire year. To put it bluntly, an X post today receives less than 3% of the views a single tweet delivered seven years ago. [...]
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> When you go online, your rights should go with you. X is no longer where the fight is happening. The platform Musk took over was imperfect but impactful. What exists today is something else: diminished, and increasingly de minimis.
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> EFF takes on big fights, and we win. We do that by putting our time, skills, and our members' support where they will effect the most change. Right now, that means [2]Bluesky , [3]Mastodon , [4]LinkedIn , [5]Instagram , [6]TikTok , [7]Facebook , [8]YouTube , and [9]eff.org . We hope you follow us there and keep supporting the work we do. Our work protecting digital rights is needed more than ever before, and we're here to help you [10]take back control .
[1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/04/eff-leaving-x
[2] https://bsky.app/profile/eff.org
[3] https://mastodon.social/@eff
[4] https://www.linkedin.com/company/EFF
[5] https://www.instagram.com/efforg/
[6] https://www.tiktok.com/@efforg
[7] https://www.facebook.com/eff
[8] https://www.youtube.com/efforg
[9] http://eff.org/
[10] http://takebackctrl.org/
Sounds like Musk's greatest fear (Score:3)
Irrelevance.
Oh no! (Score:5, Funny)
They're going to Wayland?!
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With SystemD!
When you go online, your rights should go with you (Score:1, Insightful)
> When you go online, your rights should go with you
Freedom of speech is a pretty big right. I suppose EFF doesn't need to fight for freedom of speech on X since Musk did the brunt of their work by firing the shadowbanners in the C-suites.
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The EFF stopped fighting for freedom of speech when their leftist friends began outlawing it.
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Right, former owner was allowed to agree with Biden, because previous owner has free speech rights. Current owner seems to like Trump better and does Trump-like things, again because of free speech rights.
It cuts both ways, yes. Still private companies have no obligation to carry your speech.
Re: When you go online, your rights should go with (Score:2)
You had enough awareness to post AC because this post is so absurdly dumb, but you still felt compelled to post it anyway. Hmmm. . .
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> I suppose EFF doesn't need to fight for freedom of speech on X since Musk did the brunt of their work by firing the shadowbanners in the C-suites.
Of course he had to buy Twitter first, which might go down in history as the most expensive "own the libs" purchase by an individual, ever. Personally, I think it's a sign democracy in this country isn't working properly when someone with that kind of money can press on the scales that hard.
"Erm... sinners to repentance?" (Score:2, Insightful)
Two sieg heils from the owner on national TV? No big.
Engagement down 97%? We have our principles, sir!
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The ACLU went to court to defend the freedom of speech right of nazis to march through Jewish neighborhoods. Personally, I would have classified that as threatening speech, but I'm no the ACLU. (They fought for the right of the Klan to march through black neighborhoods too.)
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Sure, but the ACLU didn't start printing all their court documents on swastika-watermarked stationery that David Duke got to sell ads on, either.
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That was a long time ago when the ACLU still valued liberty. Honestly, I miss that organization. They were the goat for personal rights. Now, I don't know what to think about what they've become.
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Lot of good it ultimately did, though. Last time I was crossing over a pedestrian bridge on my e-scooter, I noticed a sign informing that it's illegal to hold up political signs from the bridge. I should've taken a picture of it.
Florida actually has a lot of anti-protest laws of that nature. Step outside of the "free speech zone" or stay after the scheduled protest ends = free ride in a police car.
If you had the time and resources to fight it, you might be able to get it overturned as unconstitutional, b
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It's true that nobody believes he was doing a sieg heil, because he did two.
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Record a video of yourself doing it then.
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Anyone who supports HitlerHeiler Leon Skum is already diagnosed as severely retarded.
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Let's not forget Lenin. Ideas are great, but Lenin actually told Armand Hammer at a certain point that the whole idea of the Soviet Union was never going to work.
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Post a video of yourself doing the exact same thing and we can judge.
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> Post a video of yourself doing the exact same thing and we can judge.
The few times I've seen Nazis marching around, they were all wearing masks. You know, the same things they had a huge problem with during the height of the Covid pandemic. Probably because they don't want to be identified and fired from their jobs.
It never was about the masks, it was about that these sort of people just can't be decent human beings.
A post, or an EFF post? (Score:3, Interesting)
From the article...
> To put it bluntly, an X post today receives less than 3% of the views a single tweet delivered seven years ago. [...]
... do they mean a "general" post on twitter today receives less than 3% of the views, or an EFF post on twitter receives less than 3% of the views that it did? Because I think the "general" post on twitter today receives prolly a quarter of the views. The rest is on them.
Twitter is twitter, and I'm sure there is a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B here, but come on. But let's be honest and ask when was the last time the EFF got a real headline?
In fact, I see this announcement as little more than a "hey guys, remember us... we used to be famous sorta", and taking potshots at a platform no one listens to them on to do it.
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Everybody's gone to Truth Social, obviously! /s
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"But let's be honest and ask when was the last time the EFF got a real headline?"
They haven't actually aligned with their mission in a long time. It essentially costs nothing to mirror their posts to X alongside the rest of the list and notice they list Bluesky, the official network of mass censorship and authoritarian repression, at the top of their list. This is a political ad and it is diametrically opposed to the principals the EFF CLAIMS to stand for, attacking the platform that promotes freedom and pr
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People on Bluesky scare normal people. Then again, it's nice to have options for all groups. I use to love 4chan until Moot betrayed us. Now it's all pay to play if you want to post. I guess the wild west died. Rememeber SA and the /i boards. 2001 was a wild time to be alive.
Re: A post, or an EFF post? (Score:2)
You think that BlueSky users scare people, and then you admit to being part of a community that consistently produces mass murderers. You live in a severely fucked up funhouse mirror type of world.
Tell someone you are an active BlueSky users and they will assume you vote a certain way. Tell someone you participated in 4chan at any point in its history and they immediately become afraid that you will go on a killing spree.
Re: A post, or an EFF post? (Score:5, Informative)
I'm gonna say it's the algorithm.
I quit Instagram for same reason. After Facebook moved them to their algorithm, I got one tenth the likes/interaction, with a pitch to pay $$ to boost interaction ... no thanks
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Ever since Elon bought Twitter he was trying to push folks to subscriptions and openly admitted this would promote the engagement of their posts. Did EFF pay for this "feature"? -- I'm doubtful. He also neutered the algorithm and elevates right-wing nutjobs in the name of neutrality or balance or whatever over what the previous employees/owners did.
okay that is dumb (Score:1)
They know there are programs that can cross-post social media right? Like it literally takes zero effort to get that engagement?
And if Bluesky and Mastodon each get more engagement than X, I'll eat one of my hats.
Lastly I was worried that this had something to do with Wayland and I was about to be super angry.
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It essentially costs nothing to mirror their posts to X alongside the rest of the list and notice they list Bluesky, the official network of mass censorship and authoritarian repression, at the top of their list. This is a political ad and it is diametrically opposed to the principals the EFF CLAIMS to stand for, attacking the platform that promotes freedom and promoting those who oppose it.
Re:okay that is dumb (Score:5, Informative)
> Bluesky, the official network of mass censorship and authoritarian repression
[citation needed]
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Make account. Claim to be a republican. Bluesky mods show up your home with environmentally friendly flamethrowers. It could be fun to test for science.
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Interestingly, Bluesky is the platform with the moderation most disconnected from underlying content. Here's the [1]article on the architecture [bsky.app].
> For the best user experience, we suggest that clients in the AT Protocol ecosystem follow this pattern: have at least one built-in moderation service, and allow additional user-chosen mod services to be layered in on top. The Bluesky app is a space that we create and maintain, and we want to provide a positive environment for our users, so our moderation service is built-in. On top of that, the additional services that users can subscribe to creates a lot of options within the app. However, if users disagree with Bluesky’s application-level moderation, they can choose to use another client on the network with its own moderation system. There are additional nuances to infrastructure-level moderation, which we will discuss below, but most content moderation happens at the application level.
Since content at the relay level is untied to the labeling at the AppView / Client level, and only content that is illegal to host is filtered at the relay. The default Bluesky client and associated moderation service does trend left on the labelling. But then also exposes the ability for people to set their own actions on those labels and to subscribe to additional la
[1] https://docs.bsky.app/blog/blueskys-moderation-architecture
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> ... label content that they find objectionable ...
I guess this explains why one can search for "pussy" but not for "penis".
Huh? Who? Is leaving What? (Score:1)
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Rage Quitting over not getting enough views. (Score:2, Interesting)
Maybe it has to do with EFF just not being at the forefront of the resistance any longer. In the grand scheme of things they serve as nothing more than a FOSS lobby if there was one. Another factor is the strides made to eliminate bot traffic. Those 100million+ impressions, how many were actual people? They probably don't want to know the answer to that. The truth is the X algorithm is heads and shoulders above what Twitter was because it's able to get oddly specific for each person and what EFF is seeing
LinkedIn? (Score:3, Insightful)
LinkedIn is supposed to be a job posting site. Political advocacy doesn't belong there.
So EFF is deliberately embracing the enshittification of the internet.
It's a pity, too. They've done some very important work in the past. But now, they're part of the problem.
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EFF isn't dumping X because of any confusion over the line between politics and work. They're dumping X because nobody bothers with it any more.
Why do you supposed nobody bothers with it any more?
Re:LinkedIn? (Score:5, Interesting)
Correction: LinkedIn was originally just a job-and-resume posting site. And while the vast majority of its end users still treat it as such, the site's owners have been desperately trying to turn it into something else - more of a Facebook/Twitter hybrid - for almost a decade now.
I log into LinkedIn maybe once every couple of years. When I do, the first thing I always see is a huge number of pointless drivel posts that have no place on a "job-and-resume posting site", which in turn reminds me of why LinkedIn sucks so much.
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> Correction: LinkedIn was originally just a job-and-resume posting site. And while the vast majority of its end users still treat it as such, the site's owners have been desperately trying to turn it into something else - more of a Facebook/Twitter hybrid - for almost a decade now.
EFF is only one of many contributors to the enshittification, including the owners. But they are certainly guilty of contributing.
Re:LinkedIn? (Score:5, Interesting)
So Sam Altman should be allowed to post multiple articles on LinkedIn about how AI is going to transform workplaces and society, and the EFF should just remain silent?
I don't think so.
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> So Sam Altman should be allowed to post multiple articles on LinkedIn about how AI is going to transform workplaces and society
Who says so? Certainly not me.
Since your premise is stupid, the rest isn't worth reading.
Re: LinkedIn? (Score:1)
There are people who spend hours a day reading all kinds of AI slop LinkedIn posts that have nothing to do with jobs. I know people who stopped using Instagram, X, Bluesky, and Threads for marketing entirely because nobody pays attention to anything on those platforms. But they make lots of money from their LinkedIn posts because LinkedIn users just love that shit.
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PETA was never about animal rights. They have always been about virtue signaling and trying to control other people's lives. And nothing else.
They were shittified from day one.
Copy and paste is exhausting (Score:4, Insightful)
So they're still posting to 8 different places. Poor social media employees must be exhausted and simply can't manage a 9th copy-and-paste for a measly 2 million impressions.
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It's worse than that, because with proper skill, it isn't even a copy/pasta. It is one app that posts to everything all at once. Even the social media places that didn't make the list.
Buffer, Hootsuite, Metricool, Robopost or Later ... just off the top of my head.
One could probably tweak posts for each platform with AI effectively.
Yawn! Never joined any of those either! (Score:4, Interesting)
"Right now, that means Bluesky, Mastodon, LinkedIn, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube"
Social Media is like a second job with no pay for most users. The ROI on being their sock puppet is pretty low.
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Yeah, the privacy aspect of EFF doesn't align with social media in general IMHO.
Are they trying to "earn" some $ from social media? That's a silly goal, but might be a nice side benefit.
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The EFF does some good work but they need to be mindful of their Activist, Blue Sky, Crazy lawyer side of the org chart and stick to the basics.
Disclaimer
I subscribe an email address to the eff so I hear about their activities. And I use Let Encrypt ssl certs when ever possible.
meh (Score:4, Insightful)
X is basically just fascist edgelords uselessly spending money to try and convince other fascist edgelords of things they already believe. It was hilarious though how mad they all get when liberals left the platform.
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Well, think about it. There's no point in convincing people who already agree with you. That's a waste of time and effort. Of course, the "fascist edgelords" were unhappy about liberals leaving, they're the ones that needed convincing. And that's also why the liberals leaving was stupid - they needed to be trying to convince the conservatives, not be retreating to an echo chamber.
Which is why what the EFF is doing makes no sense. They say they want to save time and resources to better focus on what?
Re: meh (Score:2)
> And that's also why the liberals leaving was stupid - they needed to be trying to convince the conservatives, not be retreating to an echo chamber.
I think a number of people left not to retreat to an echo chamber, but because every post, every hit on X means money for Elon Musk.
Leaving entirely makes little sense (Score:1)
The cost of maintaining a presence on X or just about any other top-20 social media platform isn't much. Even if every posts gets "only" 1000 impressions per year it's still cheap marketing.
There is a good reason to leave X though: If posting on X makes you look bad, then leave.
But don't use "it's not worth our time/money/resources" as an excuse, not unless or impressions-per-year drop well below current levels.
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That they would think posting on X makes them look bad, makes them look bad. I didn't know the EFF was a purely partisan organization, but this is how to announce it.
And since they do exist to persuade people, exiting any forum for doing so is a mistake. Especially if is where the people who you need to persuade are found. Preaching to the choir is a poor use of the resources they say they're trying not to waste.
If everybody on X hated the EFF and supported the opposite policies, then X would be the
What the hell is X? Not X11? (Score:3)
I never had an Twitter-Account but lurked around a couple of interesting Hashtags sometimes. Never though enjoyed it.
I can not remember when I last used X.
Totally irrelevant now. Reddit... okeyish. Lemmy... partially worse than Reddit, Mastadon... maybe I was there by accident sometimes. In fact I am using the discussion forums of Youtube a lot lately.
The real problem is disguised. (Score:4, Interesting)
Here is the list they are staying with ...
Bluesky, Mastodon, LinkedIn, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube
So, where did the audience go? It didn't go to the existing places from 20-8 years ago. And I doubt it went to the two new kids.
What this tells me is that their audience is aging/dying off, and the younger generations aren't there in numbers. This requires little to no political inferences to understand. It is easy to mistake one for the other.
Yes, I am a Boomer. I don't rely upon AI to tell me what to think. I am also a Libertarian and interested in Privacy and been a long time proponent of Open Source. Maybe figure out what intersections to the younger generations align and go there.
Re:The real problem is disguised. (Score:4, Insightful)
The younger generation is watching brain rot on TikTok. I highly doubt the EFF is making any kind of engaging brain rot for them to consume on TikTok.
Re: The real problem is disguised. (Score:1)
You can shorten that list.
Meta, Microsoft, Alphabet are the only platforms now that protect my privacy and are the most secure.
The EFF told me so. Thank you.
I would have never figured that out on my own. /s.
Is this really about impressions? (Score:2)
Wasn’t one of the issues of the Twitter of old the amount of bot accounts? Maybe what EFF is seeing today is what their real impression count has always been.
Also, 13 million impressions last year is 13 million impressions. What was the cost to EFF to produce those 1500 posts? EFF needs all the impressions it can get.
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There is a non-monetary cost to posting to a "free speech" platform that caves to [1] right-wing governments' request to deplatform the opposition [politico.eu], is partially owned by the Saudi royal family, and is headed by Musk, who supports a president who uses the FCC and DOJ to punish his political enemies.
We have no idea what bot traffic on Twitter is like now. Twitter's per-acquisition botcounting methodology seemed reasonable. I don't know if things have improved, but I stopped using it when it seemed like it was ha
[1] https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-x-appeal-turkish-government-court-over-dissidents-account-suspensions/
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So, not a cost so much as partisanship.
The Decision that Destroyed Twitter/X (Score:4, Interesting)
Musk aside, the #1 change that absolutely destroyed X as a platform was by default sorting a users feed by likes rather than by post date.
The entire point of Twitter was to see what that account is doing right now and not what the most popular thing that account ever did was.
And no. I don't want to login to sort by date and then be tracked by some algorithm so it screws up my random feed like YouTube does when all I want to do is look at a tweet from a news article. Especially when I didn't have to do that before the X changeover. I also don't want it to be a walled garden like Facebook where I have to login to see anything.
The same people who complain about this... (Score:2)
Are the first, and most vocal, to remind everyone that web sites are private platforms, not free-speech zones, and the operators are entitled to enforce any rules they want within the limits of the law.
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> Are the first, and most vocal, to remind everyone that web sites are private platforms, not free-speech zones, and the operators are entitled to enforce any rules they want within the limits of the law.
Right - and they're doing what they can do, they're leaving the platform - something I'm sure you would suggest were this not an article about them doing exactly that.
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What about people who are just mocking the EFF for wasting everyone's time with a blatantly political stunt?
Yeah, Wayland seems to be inevitable (Score:2)
That was actually my thought. It wasn't until I got to the mention of Twitter than I figured out they didn't mean X11.
I did think switching from X11 to Wayland was a funny thing to post publicly about. And a funny thing for /. to pick up.
A little late. (Score:1)
The organisation, after Musk took over, became a cesspit of far-right extremism, in which anything the far-right "disagreed" with (such as facts and other inconveniences) were censored.
The EFF has, by this announcement, basically said that censorship did not bother them at all, that extremism did not bother them at all, that death threats against the left didn't bother them, that the only thing they were bothered by was the fact that the intellectuals had all left.
That does not give me overwhelming confiden
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The left has become incapable of recognizing it' own authoritarianism or just how far and fast it has moved away from the center. Since 2008, the American right is 2% further to the right, while the Left moved 31% further left. That's far enough from the center to be unable to distinguish it from the far-right. Bill Clinton probably looks like Rush from there now.
poor lemmy (Score:1)
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Itâ(TM)s over.. (Score:1)
I am pretty sure almost everyone is sick and tired of the tribalism and disingenuous, overly aggressive and hostile content and conduct that has become so normalized âoefor the good, trve, just causeâ and âoeagainst THE EVILâ online in recent years.
Online used to be an escape from the insanity of the real world, now online locks you into ever more tribalism and hate and insanity.
Plus these platforms are flooded with ads, sponsored content and AI slop.
Whatever little purpose twitter ever
It's not like it's hard work (Score:2)
It's not difficult to post to every resource under the sun. They're just peacocking to fit in. Not exactly sure to what.
Me too (Score:2)
Last time I went to X, saw this notice:
> After careful review, we determined your account broke the X Rules.
Possibly because I liked a joke before Easter in response to Paula White comparing Trump to Jesus saying then crucify him and see if he's still alive on Monday. No clue why. But not being able to doomscroll on X means I spend more time here, so all for the best.
So long I guess (Score:2)
X still has a massive infosec crowd, we tried bluesky... then mastodon, nothing stuck like X does for us. I hate to see EFF go and it will impact how I donate items for them to auction off and how much I donate in general.
Good development (Score:2)
I recall a EFF staff member used X in a very poisonous way, long before X became poisonous.
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Don't you want to know all the latest news on enshitification?
Re:could not be (Score:5, Informative)
Basically the EFF exists to defend pedo rights
You are disturbingly confused and thinking of the (GOP) RetardedKlan Party whose head is a literal 34-time convicted felon, pedophile who admitted in a Howard Stern video to invading locker rooms of underage girls at pageants, and all-around Treasonous Shitrag who wears caked orange makeup to hide his syphilis blemishes.
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OMG... Turn the TV off, go outside and touch some grass.
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Yes, the dark side is strong with that one.
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I'd say Epstein catered to the elite and powerful, including both parties. People often forget the sheer amount of human trafficking involving underage victims that are ignored as a whole. Lets not even bring up child marriages in far too man nations. It seems to me that the rich are just as corrupt as the poor on this issues no matter what your politics are. Maybe, humanity is just evil as a default setting.
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> admitted in a Howard Stern video to invading locker rooms of underage girls at pageants
As much as it disgusts me to even imply my support of the Orange Blight on Society, I don't think this statement is entirely accurate. From what I understand this particular brag wasn't about a Miss Teen USA Pageant. It was referencing the Miss USA Pageant, which requires the women to be 18+. I only bring this up because I used the same example to prove how much of a colossal creep the POTUS is, and got corrected. So he's not a colossal creep bragging about ogling minors, just a monumental creep bragging
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Exactly. Nothing stops them from staying on X AND posting elsewhere. They just want attention.
The folks that are leaving Twitter are doing so not because they were not permitted to express their opinion, but because others *are* permitted to express theirs.
Late to the party (Score:4, Funny)
All the cool kids left long ago.
Re:Late to the party (Score:5, Interesting)
No problem, EFF hasn't been cool for a while now. Remember what they did to RMS?
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> No problem, EFF hasn't been cool for a while now. Remember what they did to RMS?
The EFF is probably the most important advocacy organization that educates and acts on behalf of normal people's digital rights, freedoms, and privacy. The legal actions they take in support of these are meaningful. Now that the CFPB has been dismantled and the FCC and FTC had their teeth and spines removed, groups like EFF are the only thing we have in the US pushing back against millions of dollars of corporate lobbying money.
I'm not sure what you're talking about regarding RMS. Aside from the [1]open let [eff.org]
[1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/03/statement-re-election-richard-stallman-fsf-board
Re: Late to the party (Score:3, Interesting)
The cost thing has me wondering: What is the cost? Particularly when they mention LinkedIn, which goes out of its way to spam you anytime you do anything with it, (in my experience, they will provide anybody access to ALL PII you give to them, for a price) and whatever money they're paying them almost certainly exceeds the $8 they didn't have to spend on twitter. Or the fact that LinkedIn has a crap interface that they almost certainly have to spend more time fighting with than anything else.
Bluesky and mas
Re: Late to the party (Score:4, Insightful)
Reading between the lines here, the way I interpret this is that they're basically doing this to send the message directly to X staff: "We think our actual drop in views is because you've altered your algorithm to de-prioritize our posts, but we have no direct proof of that so we're just going to take our ball and go home and tell everyone else it's because it's just not worth it anymore."
That may be pure speculation on my part, but the subtext seemed clear to me.
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> What's more telling is who they're staying with Fecebook...Seriously?
Facebook is where all the normies are. It isn't about the EFF sticking to their principles, it's that on X they were shouting into a void. If you're not posting political ragebait, the algorithm doesn't give you the time of day.
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Mod parent Funny, though it didn't go far enough. Unfortunately I don't see how to complete the "Murdermobile" rebranding joke for Tesla. poisoned brand. (And the real problem is not the public GROK of Musk but rather the unnamed and secret AI PAT is hiding.)
But I have a funny and related book to recommend: Disrupted by Dan Lyons. Originally famous for a fake blog that pretended to be from Steve Jobs, but the book mentions Twitter in a number of places.
But if you want the simpleminded solution, it's 1/e,
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Just because the bots are under 13 years old doesn't really classify them as "kids."
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> All the cool kids left long ago.
Are you referring to Twitter or the FFS? GPL use in new projects has been steadily declining. The "cool kids" are going MIT and Apache.
App usage, License usage, ... things evolve, newer entries make improvements.