Are Employers Using Your Data To Figure Out the Lowest Salary You'll Accept? (marketwatch.com)
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- News link: https://it.slashdot.org/story/26/04/04/0420240/are-employers-using-your-data-to-figure-out-the-lowest-salary-youll-accept
- Source link: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/employers-are-using-your-personal-data-to-figure-out-the-lowest-salary-youll-accept-c2b968fb
> According to Nina DiSalvo, policy director at labor advocacy group Towards Justice, some systems use signals associated with financial vulnerability — including data on whether a prospective employee has taken out a payday loan or has a high credit-card balance — to infer the lowest pay a candidate might accept. Companies can also scrape candidates' public personal social-media pages, she said...
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> A first-of-its-kind audit of 500 labor-management artificial-intelligence companies by Veena Dubal, a law professor at University of California, Irvine, and Wilneida Negrón, a tech strategist, found that employers in the healthcare, customer service, logistics and retail industries are customers of vendors whose tools are designed to enable this practice. Published by the Washington Center for Equitable Growth, a progressive economic think tank, the August 2025 report... does not claim that all employers using these systems engage in algorithmic wage surveillance. Instead, it warns that the growing use of algorithmic tools to analyze workers' personal data can enable pay practices that prioritize cost-cutting over transparency or fairness...
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> Surveillance wages don't stop at the hiring stage — they follow workers onto the job, too. The vendors that provide such services also offer tools that are built to set bonus or incentive compensation, according to the report. These tools track their productivity, customer interactions and real-time behavior — including, in some cases, audio and video surveillance on the job. Nearly 70% of companies with more than 500 employees were already using employee-monitoring systems in 2022, such as software that monitors computer activity, [2]according to a survey from the International Data Corporation. "The data that they have about you may allow an algorithmic decision system to make assumptions about how much, how big of an incentive, they need to give to a particular worker to generate the behavioral response they seek," DiSalvo said.
The article notes that Colorado introduced the "Prohibit Surveillance Data to Set Prices and Wages Act" to ban companies from setting pay rates with algorithms that use payday-loan history, location data or Google search behavior for algorithmically set.
Thanks to long-time Slashdot reader [3]sinij for sharing the article.
[1] https://www.marketwatch.com/story/employers-are-using-your-personal-data-to-figure-out-the-lowest-salary-youll-accept-c2b968fb
[2] https://equitablegrowth.org/research-paper/estimating-the-prevalence-of-automated-management-and-surveillance-technologies-at-work-and-their-impact-on-workers-well-being/#footnote-10
[3] https://www.slashdot.org/~sinij
Always been this dance (Score:1)
Granted I last worked in the Stone Age but employers never paid more than absolutely necessary.
No (Score:2)
1. That would be illegal (Europe) and 2. I am paid from a table since as a lecturer, I am technically a public servant. (No complaints about the salary.)
Re: No (Score:2)
If this is true, it doesn't appear to be doing Europe any favors.
[1]https://worldpopulationreview.... [worldpopul...review.com]
[1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/disposable-income-by-country
Re: No (Score:2)
What subject, out of curiosity?
Of course they are (Score:4, Insightful)
But the biggest problem is that they are allowed to ask you how much you earned in your previous job and use it as a baseline.
The only answer to that question should be:
"No, you don't need to know. I had been underpaid in my previous job for years before finally reaching the limits of my loyalty and leaving. So no - you tell me what I am worth to you right now".
Re: Of course they are (Score:3, Interesting)
No need to be antagonistic. Respond with inflation adjusted BLS salary average and percentile for the job and region.
[1]https://www.bls.gov/oes/curren... [bls.gov]
[1] https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oessrcst.htm
Re: Of course they are (Score:2)
They could still contact your old employer's HR to verify your story as a part of getting references. If they discovered a discrepancy, you'd be on the back foot and probably not hired.
Just like emoloyers are not allowed to ask about your race, religion or sexuality anymore (at least in Europe), emoloyers should be barred from asking the question in the first place.
LinkedIn issue (Score:2)
I deleted all my data and closed my LinkedIn account years ago (their security was [is?] atroious).
I was surprised to see that people sometimes put salary history in LinkedIn, seems like a bad idea to me for various reasons. Thinking about this situation, you are tipping your hand to prospective employers.
Though, I guess people could lie and pad their salary to say they made $X + 15000k for example. I don't know if a prospective employer can ask your current employer what you make? I'm guessing this varies
No (Score:2)
Bettridge much?
My employer countered $25k more than I originally asked for. Then a year later they said we were underpaid by industry standards and gave us all 15k raises in addition to the usual merit increase.
Yes, and it's even worse than that... (Score:2)
Ever heard of a race to the bottom?
So you have two candidates for a job. But one of them has a family to support and the other one is still living at home. You don't think that's relevant to the salary offer that each candidate will consider acceptable?
Too bad the future of society depends on people having families and therefore on having incomes high enough to support families. Unintended consequences and all that stuff.
Re: Yes, and it's even worse than that... (Score:2)
Have you learned nothing from the great resignation?
Re: No (Score:2)
Are they hiring?
Re: No (Score:2)
Yes
Re: (Score:3)
Then you woke up.
Re: No (Score:2)
Woke up employed by what later turned out to be a unicorn.