New Company Hopes to Build Age-Verification Tech into Vape Cartridges (wired.com)
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- News link: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/26/03/30/0639249/new-company-hopes-to-build-age-verification-tech-into-vape-cartridges
- Source link: https://www.wired.com/story/your-vape-wants-to-know-how-old-you-are/
[1] Wired reports on a partnership between vape/cartridge manufacturer Ispire Technology and regulatory consulting company Chemular (which specializes in the nicotine market) — which they've named "Ike Tech":
> [Using blockchain-based security, the e-cig cartridge] would use a camera to scan some form of ID and then also take a video of the user's face. Once it verifies your identity and determines you're old enough to vape, it translates that information into anonymized tokens. That info goes to an identity service like [2]ID.me or Clear . If approved, it bounces back to the app, which then uses a Bluetooth signal to give the vape the OK to turn on.
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> "Everything is tokenized," [says Ispire CEO Michael Wang]. "As a result of this process, we don't communicate consumer personal private information." He says the process takes about a minute and a half... After that onetime check, the Bluetooth connection on the phone will recognize when the vape cartridge is nearby and keep it unlocked. Move the vape too far away from the phone, and it shuts off again. Based on testing, the companies behind Ike Tech claim this process has a 100 percent success rate in age verification, more or less calling the tech infallible. "The FDA told us it's the holy grail technology they were [3]looking for ," Wang says. "That's word-for-word what they said when we met with them...."
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> Wang says the goal is to implement additional features in the verification process, like geo-fencing, which would force the vape to shut off while near a school or on an airplane. In the future, the plan is to license this biometric verification tech to other e-cig companies. The tech may also grow to include fingerprint readers and expand to other product categories; Wang suggests guns, which have a long history of age-verification features not quite working.
[1] https://www.wired.com/story/your-vape-wants-to-know-how-old-you-are/
[2] https://www.wired.com/story/a-us-agency-rejected-face-recognition-and-landed-in-big-trouble/
[3] https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ike-tech-welcomes-landmark-fda-recognition-of-device-level-age-verification-in-nicotine-regulation-302714278.html
Sure why not? (Score:1)
Let's get a chat client in it too, just make the talking cigar that refuses to work from Sam Slade : RoboHunter for real.
April 1st (Score:2)
They're a little bit early, but this part has to be a joke: "Wang suggests guns, which have a long history of age-verification features not quite working."
Glad I don't smoke (Score:4, Insightful)
I already hate that I need a smartphone app to charge my EV at most DCFC stations (the one saving grace is that I don't need to fast charge all that often), but having to use an app every time you want to get your nicotine fix would be a real pain in the ass. Something tells me if this actually caught on, vapers would just go back to smoking the old fashioned combustion form of cancer sticks.
Re: Glad I don't smoke (Score:4, Informative)
The world has become so horrible in the last 10-15 years.
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Really just the last 6.
2020 was when the managed decline really began.
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> I already hate that I need a smartphone app to charge my EV at most DCFC stations
You what? Is this a thing in the states? It's actually been illegal in Europe to build a fast charger that doesn't except credit / debit cards for 2 years now, and by the end of this year 100% of chargers with a capacity higher than 50kW need to accept credit / debit card.
Additionally low power chargers need to offer an option to pay without an app or subscription, but are allowed to direct you to a payment website (no need to add a hardware credit card reader).
But I for one am in favour of making it as dif
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> You what? Is this a thing in the states? It's actually been illegal in Europe to build a fast charger that doesn't except credit / debit cards for 2 years now...
That's funny. I remember when Americans travelled to Europe, we were strongly advised to bring cash because plastic was not nearly as widely accepted. Of course, this was back in the olden days when "cash" meant Marks, Francs, and Lyra.
Reminiscing aside, I don't see a need for a mandate. If enough people complain, I'm sure charging makers would include credit card readers. They're cheap enough and I'm actually kind of surprised the non-Tesla networks don't already. I think the thinking is that for a number
Re: Glad I don't smoke (Score:2)
They're making the perfect the enemy of the good. People seem to forget (or never have learned) that nicotine isn't the truly harmful part of smoking, it's the actual smoke. Anything you do to encourage people to smoke instead of vape is tragically harmful.
By making the vapor look so much like actual smoke, vape companies aren't helping the situation.
You know what isn't age locked? (Score:4, Insightful)
There is a nicotine source that isn't at all age locked. I guess the teens will move on to these "cigarettes" you hear about from time to time.
They even come in cool Menthol.
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This ! And it is also a gift to black market sellers because it'll be much cheaper to sell capes without all this tech and computing capabilities.
Re: You know what isn't age locked? (Score:2)
Menthol cigs are already banned in many countries, pretty sure its gonna spread worldwide co sidering the orwellian trends worldwide
Cue exploit in... (Score:2)
"The FDA told us it's the holy grail technology they were looking for," Wang says. "That's word-for-word what they said when we met with them...."
...5, 4, 3, 2, 1...
First against the wall (Score:3)
Anyone who participates in any of this aggressive ID verification tech needs to be first up against the wall before the revolution comes, or there won't ever be one again.
Re:First against the wall (Score:5, Insightful)
> Railing against age verification while an orange man is sending the military into your cities, destroying your way of life and antagonizing the whole world against you is priceless.
Age verification is not what is being discussed, and only an incredibly simple person who is completely unable to imagine ramifications of what is obviously ubiquitous identity verification would make such a drastic mistake. This kind of technology is an obvious component of "sending the military into [our] cities" and "destroying [our] way of life" and is in fact exactly what the followers of the orange piggy are promoting. Did you not notice what's going on with e.g. flock? Fucking wake up and learn to pay attention, fascism enabler.
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Found the guy who can't connect the dots.
What do you think they're going to use this technology for? It's not for finding lost dogs, I can tell you that much.
Think hard, bumpkin: what could an oppressive government do with the capability to track everyone everywhere?
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Two things can be bad at once. And this article is about age verification. Calm down and don't attack your allies.
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> this article is about age verification.
Through individual biometric identification.
Let's kill every human, then no one underage can smoke. There's a sentence "about underage smoking" for you.
Blockchain can do anything... (Score:2)
Totally not a gimmick. Totally not incredibly easy to bypass. Totally not a bunch more e-Waste in the making. /s
But someone expects to earn good money with it, so...
Sounds effective (Score:2)
For attracting venture capital, about 10 years ago.
But does it run Linux? (Score:2)
I'm sure someone will find a way to hack a work around.
Dystopian craziness (Score:2)
Let's extend this dystopian 'security' feature to everything like phones and TVs and cars and can openers and lighters and keyboards and toilets. Can't be too safe now, can we?
Updates (Score:2)
Q. How will the software be kept up to date?
A. We're looking for funding for something we call Nicotine Patches.
Great work (Score:2)
That's a cool idea. Really dystopian. I love it.
Stop That (Score:4, Insightful)
You people have gone insane.
Stop trying to control every atom of existence and every move people make.
You're sick in the head, not visionaries, not thought leaders.
Go plant a garden and get back in touch with the real world.
No, NOT FARMVILLE!
I'm sure a scientist is working on a... (Score:2)
breathlyzer to allow you to open a box of beers, wine and liquor.
Terrible idea (Score:2)
How are you going to make this work? Instead of focusing on single product age verification, why not make a stable, offline, and secure age validation system, and then be able to tell to the battery, for instance you're old enough? I still don't think it's a good idea, but trying to build out a separate infrastructure to verify / validate something like this is stupid.
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Maybe we could start by limiting the sale of these things based on age somehow... If only there we some technology at the location of sale that could identify purchasers of products...
It takes a village to raise a child (Score:2)
Nevermind, we'll let the machines do it.
I don't vape anymore (Score:2)
But I keep all my vaping equipment - mod, drippers and all manners of accessories - from the early teens when vaping was free, unregulated and not yet killed by Big Pharma. Hell, I still have 3 gallons of 100mg nic base in blue bottles with nitrogen in storage in the freezer from that time.
I was a big vaping enthusiast for years. It's what kept me from smoking again. I've quit smoking and vaping for years, but just in case I decide to pick up vaping again - like if I'm diagnosed with cancer again, and it's
April 1st (Score:1)
April 1 is coming...
Welcone to the new permissions-based society (Score:3)
First the will build the infrastructure to control minors from gaining access to certain products, services, information, and entertainment.
Then with the infrastructure in place, they will extend it to certain demographic groups causing the regime some trouble.
Finally, it will be extended to all so they can control what you see, hear, and do.
Vape: how can we make smoking worse? (Score:2)
Instead of smokers simply annoying people when they do this in public, now they get to waste more electronics that wind up in a landfill - by design!
Is anyone else tired of this disposable society yet? Now instead of a cigarette butt we find used vape cartridges, used lithium ion cells, and now it includes a larger circuit board to support blue tooth! On top of that the battery could start a fire even when it is put in the trash and not on the ground.
Vapes need the equivalent to a core charge when buy
City Miles (TM) Brand Fine Tobacco Cigarettes (Score:2)
No problem, kids just have to smoke cigarettes for a couple years and then they can switch over to the vapes with visual age verification. Couple packs a day from age 15, and you should be able to pass for 35 by your seventeenth birthday.
Simple (Score:2)
If the cartridge detects that the user has more than three teeth, it refuses to work.
Blockchain??? (Score:3)
Are they running their marketing department out of a retirement home or something? This buzzword is... Aged.
Re:Blockchain??? (Score:4)
They should add AI and quantum computing into the mix just for maximum buzzword coverage.
Re:Blockchain??? (Score:5, Funny)
Fuck it....
I'm gonna just go back to smoking real cigarettes....
It was MUCH more fun anyway...you got to carry a lighter all the time, play with fire....and flicking ashes at the bar while talking to a girl just felt....right.
Hell, maybe go back a bit further and buy loose tobacco and roll my own.
Pure analog pleasure.....geez I miss it.....
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> Fuck it....
> I'm gonna just go back to smoking real cigarettes....
> It was MUCH more fun anyway...you got to carry a lighter all the time, play with fire....and flicking ashes at the bar while talking to a girl just felt....right.
> Hell, maybe go back a bit further and buy loose tobacco and roll my own.
> Pure analog pleasure.....geez I miss it.....
Well then, you’ll probably also miss out on the underwear running on a blockchain with a camera to verify the person is the right age and with the right gonads to be wearing it. Once the video is uploaded, it disables the high voltage circuits that will put a stop to indecency.
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> ....and flicking ashes at the bar while talking to a girl just felt....right.
Most modern ladies I know aren't too keen on the smell that comes from smoking cigarettes so unless you're hitting on a lady who's also a smoker you likely won't have much luck chatting up the ladies while smoking nowadays.