Apple Announces Low-Cost 'MacBook Neo' With A18 Pro Chip (macrumors.com)
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- News link: https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/26/03/04/1624211/apple-announces-low-cost-macbook-neo-with-a18-pro-chip
- Source link: https://www.macrumors.com/2026/03/04/apple-announces-low-cost-macbook-neo-with-a18-pro-chip/
> The MacBook Neo is the first Mac to be powered by an iPhone chip; the A18 Pro debuted in 2024's iPhone 16 Pro models. Apple says it is up to 50% faster for everyday tasks than the bestselling PC with the latest shipping Intel Core Ultra 5, up to 3x faster for on-device AI workloads, and up to 2x faster for tasks like photo editing. The MacBook Neo features a 13-inch Liquid Retina display with a 2408-by-1506 resolution, 500 nits of brightness, and an anti-reflective coating. The display does not have a notch, instead featuring uniform, iPad-style bezels.
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> It is available in Silver, Indigo, Blush, and Citrus color options. The colored finishes extend to the Magic Keyboard in lighter shades and come with matching wallpapers. It weighs 2.7 pounds. There are two USB-C ports. One is a USB-C 2 port with support for speeds up to 480 Mb/s and one is a USB-C 3 port with support for speeds up to 10 Gb/s. There is also a headphone jack. The MacBook Neo also offers a 16-hour battery life, 8GB of unified memory, Wi-Fi 6E and Bluetooth 6 connectivity, a 1080p front-facing camera, dual mics with directional beamforming, and dual side-firing speakers with Spatial Audio.
[1] https://apple.slashdot.org/story/26/03/03/1635208/apple-launches-new-m5-chips-macbook-pro-and-first-new-monitors-in-years
[2] https://www.macrumors.com/2026/03/04/apple-announces-low-cost-macbook-neo-with-a18-pro-chip/
[3] https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-neo
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> But seriously, is an iPhone chip up to the task?
That was my concern, too - does it suggest the Neo is underpowered or the iPhone overpowered? Although, as I think about it, most tasks people complete on their phone (posting to social media, taking and minor edits to photos, email, text, whatsapp, browsing the web) are similar tasks to those most people do on their laptops, just with a larger screen. It does seem really odd that they would put this chip in a new laptop when they've got M-series in their iPads (although those would be $200+ more expensive
Re:An affordable Macbook? (Score:4, Informative)
>> But seriously, is an iPhone chip up to the task?
> That was my concern, too - does it suggest the Neo is underpowered or the iPhone overpowered?
Both. For a phone, the iPhone is massively overpowered. For a laptop, the chip is massively underpowered.
It's fast enough at single-core or low-core-count workloads to be a decent Chromebook equivalent. Where it falls apart is connectivity.
It has two USB-C ports, but one is limited to USB 2.0 speeds, which means users are going to be very confused, since there's no nice little blue insert on USB-C ports to say that the other one is slower than molasses in February.
Only one of the USB-C ports is cable of driving an external display, so if you need Ethernet at full gigabit speeds or any kind of external storage, no external display for you (unless you're okay with 1080p30 over USB 2 with an old third-party adapter).
The external display is capped at DisplayPort 1.4 (2016) performance. If you are planning to dock this to a high-end monitor, that limitation might be worth noting.
This is the only Mac released since 2011 that lacks support for Thunderbolt.
IMO, Apple should not have released this product as designed. It adds needless levels of confusion in the marketplace to have USB-C ports that aren't compatible with Thunderbolt peripherals or devices, and the extra confusion from having a crappy USB 2.0 port disguised as a USB-C port is sure to piss users off enough that a lot of them won't come back. I doubt they shaved more than a couple of dollars off the bill of materials for that corner cutting.
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While I agree that this is not a product for me, it's definitely suitable for someone like my mom who will browse the web, do word processing, and a few other light activities that won't tax this machine. The sort of person in the market for a $600 laptop probably isn't the sort of consumer that wants to connect to an external display and drive a 4K 120 FPS signal.
Think of this like a Mac for mom or grandma that now costs $300 less than the entry-level Mac you'd otherwise have to buy that was overkill fo
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The tasks may be similar, but iOS is aggressive about suspending or terminating applications that are not in the foreground.
I would be skeptical of performance with multiple foregrounded apps, personally.
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> The tasks may be similar, but iOS is aggressive about suspending or terminating applications that are not in the foreground
Hmm, I wonder if it ran a version of iOS if it would be a better experience for the user?
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The A18 Pro would have been considered a supercomputer-class processor not too long ago.
Re:An affordable Macbook? (Score:4, Insightful)
Hah! Well, yeah, that's a fair point about every CPU, right?
Re:An affordable Macbook? (Score:4, Informative)
It should be around the same or slightly better performance as the M1, which still holds up very well. Better single core performance, but only 6 cores (2p 4e) vs 8 (4p 4e) in the M1.
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Airs have been right at or near the $1000 price point for a long time. Sure, you can get garbage computers for cheaper--even much cheaper--but having had to deal with my kids' school-issued Chromebooks, they are downright painful to use and so locked down that I see not evidence of school-aged kids developing any love for actual devices. They'd rather stick to their phones which are more powerful and easier to use than the crappy Chromebook.
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I should note that I didn't buy her a cheap laptop out of a lack of love, but out of a lack of money.
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Yup. There are plenty of absolutely decent PCs available at that price point.
The 8GB of RAM on this thing seems like a mistake though. Not that they don't function fine on 8GB- I've got a coworker using an M1 Air with 8GB still to this day... but still 16GB is a common offering at that price point.
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> but still 16GB is a common offering at that price point.
A few models yes. Dell.com will deceptively show you a $329 laptop if you select 16GB filter however that price applies to the 8GB variant of that model. The 16GB variant might be $700. For $600 there are quite a few 8GB models.
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I would prefer 16gb of ram, but with macOS, I don't think it's that big a deal (I'm also not the target market for this laptop). I assume this is also related to the recent surge in ram pricing.
Pretty much every PC laptop I specced in the $500-$600 range has 8gb as well. Windows will eat that up far faster than the Mac. Heck, the Acer Travelmate B3 11 ($450) only comes with 4gb (!).
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My anecdotal impression (just to be clear, it is anecdotal) is that I know more and more people who no longer have home computer. They're doing everything they need on a phone or tablet.
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Yes, a Chromebook that is likely several years old and cost $200 is going to be disappointing compared to a $1000 laptop from a premium manufacturer.
There is an awful lot of middle ground between those, though.
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> There is an awful lot of middle ground between those, though.
Is there though? I hadn't specced out PC laptops in some time, so I just checked. I looked for 11" non-Chromebooks.
First comment--HP, Dell, Lenovo all have annoying, cluttered websites with unclear product lines. At Lenovo, when I click Laptops, I'm next asked to pick between Lenovo Thinkpad, Lenovo Yoga, Lenovo Legion, Lenovo Loq, Lenovo Thinkbook, Lenovo Ideapad, and Lenovo Slim. Acer -- Everyday, Professional, Swift, Nitro, Travelmate, Aspire, or Thin & Powerful. Ugh!
Dell, 11" Education laptop (Windo
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Nice to see a good-natured post/joke about an Apple product for a change.
OS is ommited (Score:3)
So odd that the product page on the Apple website doesn't say whether it runs OS X or IOS.
If people don't care, they might as well try shipping it running Linux...
It runs macOS. It's show in the video. (Score:3)
EOM
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It runs MacOS. There is a whole section about MacOS on the product page.
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Why would a laptop run a phone OS?
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Fetishism?
Re:OS is ommited (Score:4, Insightful)
Ask Google why they're trying to fold ChromeOS into Android. On that side they barely managed to just give it a new name, while on Android side they're toying with a terribly lacking "OS" UI, and all apps are still the regular Android apps, missing even the (proper) Chrome from ChromeOS (!). And they've been at it since late 2024 (publicly, probably more behind the scenes).
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> Ask Google why they're trying to fold ChromeOS into Android.
Why would you ask a stupid question like that? They're obviously tired of maintaining two Linux distributions. ChromeOS only exists at all because Chrome for Android was shit at the time, and it was actually easier to make a whole new Linux distro than to fix it timely.
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And Apple has MacOS, iOS (and iPadOS) based on Darwin (BSD).
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> And Apple has MacOS, iOS (and iPadOS) based on Darwin (BSD).
Yes, and look at how they are making them more like one another over time. Eventually they will either merge them or discard one and go another direction.
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That's what we were asking ourselves when Windows 8 came out.
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Well, my Mac Mini (newest version) can run some IOS games. It's kinda neat.
And you should tar and feather me for doing a few micro-payments in one of them. I hate myself.
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> So odd that the product page on the Apple website doesn't say whether it runs OS X or IOS.
How would it run iOS without a touch screen? iOS is designed around touch controls. It will run macOS just like every other Mac.
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Nothing odd about it. It's a laptop formfactor. Apple has not to date shipped a laptop formfactor device with iOS nor a slate device with MacOS. Do they also need to state on their website that the Sun will rise tomorrow?
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> Do they also need to state on their website that the Sun will rise tomorrow?
Of course not. That would interfere with all the Internet pundits who have been predicting that Apple is going to put iOS on everything for the last twenty years.
Or... maybe not, since they did say, with a big section headline, "macOS is the powerful yet friendly operating system that makes a Mac a Mac" and the pundits still pundited.
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The product page mentions macOS Tahoe in several places. That should have been a huge giant obvious clue.
Charging extra for security? (Score:2)
While you also get additional storage, Apple is now adding a fee for access to their Touch ID keyboard. I guess Apple now believes security is only for those with money.
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It also has twice the storage, so it's not all about the Touch Id. Everything costs money, even the Touch Id. If Apple intends to offer the cheapest laptop it can, then it does make sense. We got along just fine for a long time without biometrics. Touch Id mostly adds convenience. And, given what I've observed, people tend to use their laptops with an admin account and either no password or a simple 1234 style password.
Re:Charging extra for security? (Score:4, Interesting)
Or, perhaps Apple wants to push back against Chrome books in education, and touch ID/biometrics can be dicey with PSUs (public school units in this context) in the US.
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What's that got to do with it? Don't administrators have ultimate control over how hardware is used and how systems are set up? If not, then I would argue MacOS has no business in the school and Chromebooks have nothing to worry about.
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That's really not obvious? If you're buying close-to-disposable computers for 5,000 or 30,000 other 80,000 students in a district, why would you pay for hardware that you can't, by policy, use?
Who knows if Apple will make a dent in the Chromebook market with this, I kind of doubt it, but these are some weird reactions. None of the Chromebooks my kids use have any biometrics either (and terrible touchpads, terrible keyboards, terrible screens, etc.)
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Citation, please. I'm reading the keyboard with Touch ID is just a hardware purchase, no subscription.
Prove it, prove me wrong, and watch the mod points valorize
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It is not a subscription. The one and only option available on the new MacBook Neo is $100 to double storage from a 256GB SSD to 512GB SSD and adds Touch ID. This is something many schools DON'T want, as it means storing student information they cannot access. You see the same on Chromebooks, where they're offered with and without similar.
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> This is something many schools DON'T want, as it means storing student information they cannot access.
Schools shouldn't care. The ability to use hardware or not should be lockable on an OS level by the administrator.
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> The ability to use hardware or not should be lockable on an OS level by the administrator.
Why would they want to pay for hardware they aren't going to use?
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This means schools can save $100 by going with the lower storage option and they'll still be able to lockdown these machines. Touch ID and Secure Enclave just gives the user options like Apple Pay, and additional protections from an administrator accessing their data. Yes, an administrator could lock it down so they can't access such functionality, but then the user also loses access to such also.
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No. The extra $100 is for two things: (1) doubling the storage; (2) Touch ID.
A cheap MacOS Laptop? (Score:2)
This could be a writer's dream laptop. 16 hour battery life advertised, so probably around 10-12 hours of actual use. If this thing runs my writing apps worth a damn, I could be tempted back to the Apple universe just for my writing. Linux works mostly, but I miss my Scrivener running without weird glitches. WINE mostly lets it run, but it's sloppy which leads to fears as the projects grow longer.
Congrats Apple. You're tempting me for the first time in a very, VERY long time.
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I've never used it, but an author friend of mine swears by Ulysses (mac software).
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> I've never used it, but an author friend of mine swears by Ulysses (mac software).
I haven't used it either, but from what little I know, Ulysses is similar but has more features built in, like grammar checking and such.
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I would agree with that except Apple's keyboards have gone to shit over the last decade or so, and there's zero chance their lowest end laptop is going to have a decent keyboard when their higher range offerings and even their desktop keyboards make Chromebooks look quality.
(I really wish Apple would fix this, because aside from everything else they set the trends, and numerous other manufacturers have decided if Apple doesn't care about keyboards, neither should they. I have a Thinkpad from the mid-2000s s
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Entire anecdotal and subjective, but I absolutely love the keyboard on my M1 MacBook Air.
My M4 MacBookPro.... less so... but it's the same as my M1 MacBookPro had. The Air really just has a fantastic keyboard.
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> Entire anecdotal and subjective, but I absolutely love the keyboard on my M1 MacBook Air. My M4 MacBookPro.... less so... but it's the same as my M1 MacBookPro had. The Air really just has a fantastic keyboard.
Digging around the site, they're selling refurb M4 Airs for just a shade over the higher spec on these new Neos, and that seems like a much better laptop overall. I may have to ponder this one a bit.
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I really love the airs. I bought my aunt and my niece one I was so impressed with them.
M4s are excellent performing parts- being able to get one for that price is very worth it, if you're in the market for it.
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> I would agree with that except Apple's keyboards have gone to shit over the last decade or so
Which is especially ironic considering how good the keyboard was on their first laptop. They made a great machine the first time, took a long look at it, and said "we'll never do that again." Powerbooks all had meh keyboards at best for example, I had a 230c.
Overdue. (Score:2)
This is one of the points where I actually would say "This wouldn't have happened with Steve Jobs". Ever since he died they've been somewhat neglecting that one affordable price-point option they always had since the iMac days. It has been a very long time since I've been this interested in an Apple product. Will check if out, might get one. If I ever again get a laptop that is and convergence doesn't happen before that.
It's piss colored (Score:1)
So many people are looking to escape Microslop but Apple thought it would be funny to sell a Clownbook with specs that were obsolete in 2017.
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It's got higher single-core performance than an M1.
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My gaming/TV desktop at home is an i7-4790 from ~12 years ago. It has an ~8 year old SSD, 16gb ram, etc. The newest part is a Nvidia 3080 from ~6 years ago.
It runs everything I want to run just fine. It runs everything my kids want to run just fine.
Why do you think latest and greatest top specs matter for the vast majority of the marketplace?
The A19 has more cores than the i7, uses ~1/10 of the energy, and I would imagine (without seeing benchmarks) the performance is strongly better.
p.s. hilarious job with
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What are you doing on a portable device that requires 128gb of ram and 64 cores?
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Well, my MBP has 128GB and 16 cores that I suspect outperform any 64 cores that have ever been put in a laptop... ever...
The 128GB is ridiculously handy for large data processing.
It also, as an aside, ended up making it really functional for local LLM running.
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> So many people are looking to escape Microslop but Apple thought it would be funny to sell a Clownbook with specs that were obsolete in 2017.
From what I can see, you can spend $20 more and get a Clownbook with Microslop from [1]Dell [dell.com] with nearly the same specs. Or a [2]Lenovo [lenovo.com] for $50 less. It will be interesting to see when people pit these against each other in tests.
[1] https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/dell-pro-pv15250-laptop/btohvwt_pv15250_us?redirectTo=SOC&tfcid=91049735&&gacd=9684992-1105-5761040-266906002-0&dgc=ST&SA360CID=22394678054&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22394678054&gbraid=0AAAAADllXQd02VlUJlf7oX069hncRMVXi&gclid=CjwKCAiAzZ_NBhAEEiwAMtqKy70QwY9_lBkKhZOqYtEHLa3XWvN8XHZQr5hOZgCcbhL87LuD3HLjvhoC2XMQAvD_BwE
[2] https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-slim-series/lenovo-ideapad-slim-3-gen-10-15-inch-amd/83ka003cus?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F&cid=us:sem%7Cse%7Cgoogle%7Cshopping_pc%7C%7C%7C83KA003CUS%7C1341260594%7C184755898968%7Cpla-1749153034739%7Cshopping%7C%7C&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=1341260594&gbraid=0AAAAADnnO-UmgV5WxW5wHWI7q6PffYeu5&gclid=CjwKCAiAzZ_NBhAEEiwAMtqKy29JksqeQQxBiUDsABExRlGxOzxc9ORY1psSWyrnowdJWpHTnqtwmhoC2VQQAvD_BwE
For high school and college students... (Score:1)
This could be the One.
The only (Score:1)
Mac I've been interested in buying in 30 years.
Nope, I didn't buy that one either...
splat (Score:1)
To a non-Apple usr , creating a new-shiny iXXX is just throwing mud at a wall ... to see what sticks. Micro improvements supervene on mix and/or match various components some better some worse change the names -- just a little -- to promote new-shiny. I am a long time computer user who is almost embarrassed when a practical tool descends into new-shiny (s)he-man jewelry.
Apple is in trouble... (Score:1)
This reads less like "new product category" and more like "oh f*ck, people can't afford our products any more."
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> This reads less like "new product category" and more like "oh f*ck, people can't afford our products any more.",
It has 8GB of LPDDR5X RAM. It is $100+ dollars right now for a stick of 8GB DDR5 SODIMM. Now I wouldn't buy one of these MacBooks as it does not suit my requirements, but it seems like no one can afford anything these days.
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Apple just released a new $3499 monitor this week and a $4800 laptop, they're still clearly in belief that the high-end market exists too.
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> Apple just released a new $3499 monitor this week and a $4800 laptop, they're still clearly in belief that the high-end market exists too.
Yes, they need something to sell for receptionist use in the lobbies of the various AI scams.
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Seems unlikely. The Air is available for around $1000, and absolutely flew off the shelves at that price point.
It reads to me like they're making a reach for next step down in price point.
Spoken like someone without kids (Score:2)
> This reads less like "new product category" and more like "oh f*ck, people can't afford our products any more."
Correction: People have young children who need a laptop and would rather buy a $600 one in a nice color than deal with Windows or rely on giving them the grown-ups hand-me-downs and then listening to their kids complain about never having a decent battery and wondering when something critical will break. This is not meant to be your only macbook. It's meant to allow your kids to have their own instead of borrowing yours.
THIS IS HUGE. I think it will be a hot seller and they should have done this lo
USB 2? (Score:2)
Wow, I can't believe they had the gall to put a USB 2 port on that thing.
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It's a limitation of the A18 processor. It supports one port at USB3 speeds. Be real, 99.9% of people using this thing have no need for even a single USB3 port. At no point during their ownership will they need to plug in anything other than the charger to this thing.
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> At no point during their ownership will they need to plug in anything other than the charger to this thing.
Unless they want to back up their data to someplace other than Apple's cloud, in which case they will absolutely want to plug in a USB3 storage device. There's no need to make excuses for a corporation that doesn't give even one one-thousandth of a shit about you.
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The average user doesn't connect a drive to their machine to backup. The purpose of this machine has gone a mile over your head. These people need nothing more than the free iCloud backup and that's just fine.
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> in which case they will absolutely want to plug in a USB3 storage device
Then they're in luck, there's a USB3 port on the laptop.
I want video Re:USB 2? (Score:1)
I would consider this as a portable replacement for a low-end/used Mac Mini if it supported decent video output. The 13 in screen means it won't be my "daily driver."
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Read the article carefully. And read what it says, not what you know to be true. The article clearly says "one port with 10 gigabit per second" (a bit over a gigabyte, enough for a slower SSD drive) and "one port with 480 megabit per second" (less than 60 megabytes per second, thats what a relatively old spinning hard drive supplies). In reality that port is 40 gigabit or 5 gigabytes per second, that's very fast for any external SSD.
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> 8gb ram (I get that AI is eating our ram, but come on)
It costs $100+ right now to get 8GB DDR5 SODIMM of any brand, speed, etc. Apple has to buy it just like everyone else. Their orders are for millions of units at a time.
> Just sell a laptop style doc for an iPhone already. There'd easily be room for an M.2 mount and extra battery capacity too.
And how would this dock interact with an iPhone where iOS is designed around touch controls?
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“ And how would this dock interact with an iPhone where iOS is designed around touch controls?”
Run MacOS and iOS on the same device as containers and which OS is available depends on if it is plugged in to a screen/dock or not. My iPhone has 1 TB storage, so disk space isn’t an issue.
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> Run MacOS and iOS on the same device as containers and which OS is available depends on if it is plugged in to a screen/dock or not. My iPhone has 1 TB storage, so disk space isn’t an issue.
Again how would you run iOS that is designed around touch controls ? I said nothing about disk space. iOS is designed around touch, specifically multi-touch. It is not designed for keyboard and mice. You need a multi-touch interface with it. Like using another iPhone/iPad as the interface which would defeat the purpose of having a dock.
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> And how would this dock interact with an iPhone where iOS is designed around touch controls?
Given they can run full MacOS on the system, it seems like a software exercise to have the phone detect and run an appropriate OS interface for the form factor.
That said, they'd need a different iPhone anyway, for the same reasons this laptop is so limited, you couldn't implement a compelling 'dock' via external connection with this hardware.
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> Given they can run full MacOS on the system, it seems like a software exercise to have the phone detect and run an appropriate OS interface for the form factor.
Ok, and what is the appropriate multi-touch monitor that they should use for this form factor? Also if they need to induce a shake for a specific control like Undo, should the user shake the monitor?
Similar usefulness as the 2016 MacBook... (Score:2)
This is of similar usefulness as the MacBook made in 2016, with the m3 CPU (not M3, Intel m3). It wasn't a screaming machine by any means, and it only had one USB port... but it was good enough for most things, like basic Web apps, PowerPoint, Excel, etc.
I am thinking about the Neo + the TouchID scanner upgrade.
The Neo is about the cost of a decent tablet, offers decent functionality, a USB dock can be added so it can be plugged into a basic keyboard and monitor setup. This is ideal for taking a personal
It's an interesting, lower-cost Mac (Score:2)
However I see that I can get a refurbished M2 MacBook Air for $679, or an M4 Air for $759. Those are more capable, but with 16GB of RAM and MagSafe (although the storage is 256GB). The M4 will actually drive multiple displays.
I will say I'm glad to see Apple isn't ignoring this market segment anymore... I liked the old plastic MacBooks from, what, 15 years ago?
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The M4 Air base model was $750 new during US holidays. I know because I got 1. This NEO can be had for $500 with an education discount (primary audience). There's just a lot of apple laptops available sub $1000 for the normal person with plenty of CPU power. The best deal will be waiting for US holiday for the new M5 Air base model now with 512gb storage.
Wallpapers (Score:4, Funny)
I'm so glad it comes with matching wallpapers, that would've been a deal breaker for me.
Re: Wallpapers (Score:2)
"Magic Keyboard in lighter shades"
Boss, I must have one. Gimme gimme gimme.
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I hope that was less confusing for you than the meaning of the term "magsafe."
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Yeah it was! I'm frankly surprised Apple still calls them wallpapers, I'd think they'd have called them something else far more stupid. At least they're still trying to gaslight people into thinking that Macs aren't PCs.
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It can be pretty triggering to feel like you're getting gaslit. Cheers.
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Does anyone still use wallpaper in their homes anymore? I think it fell out of fashion like 30 years ago.
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They're not. The word you're looking for is microcomputers.
The PC, short for Personal Computer, was IBM's entry into the microcomputer market. And, as you might expect from Big Blue, the terms were trademarked to hell and back. I don't know if IBM let them lapse since they existed the market. But PC has, from the very beginning, meant a microsoft OS running on intel or intel-compatible CPUs.