Everything from MS these days advertises Copilot will do everything. Every commercial I have seen shows Copilot demonstrating HAL 9000 levels of intelligence and autonomy. Incidentally, I wonder when the first class action lawsuit will be filed as multiple YouTubers have tried to recreate the commercials with instant and obvious Copilot failures.

Virtually all the code I see AI generating came from stack overflow. And that has collapsed in the wake of AI.

Eventually there isn't going to be any code to train off of.

Problem solved.

A whole generation was put off coding because they thought they would be replaced with cheap labour. Now even the outsourced labour is getting replaced. I hope Microsoft drowns in their own AI slop, as soon as gaming companies stop being paranoid over anti cheat Microsoft won't have any skin in the consumer market anymore.

Microsoft has 4 trillion of ill gotten market cap while there is massive homelessness in Silicon Valley and Washington, they are simply evil.

I would expect that ideally long term in organizations all age groups should be represented proportionally to demographics curve.

Currently IT is dominated by young people and companies give every reason for seniors 'not to' train juniors...

So what do they have in mind this time?

For me situation overall goes into Middle Ages direction - birth and connections will determine everything again.

When you are born into the right family - you will inherit your family wealth, AIs and your father's job.

Is MS trying to fix the general industry, or just a company-specific problem?

As far as the general industry, if the "eat the low end" prediction is true, then it should eventually come to the following equilibrium: fewer will enter the field and eventually senior devs will retire and there won't be enough experienced devs in the industry. Demand for juniors will then go back up because companies have no other choice. The wages would then generally be the same as they are now, even if fewer people are actua

So the hypothetical is that entry level coding jobs are toast but you still need the advanced folks to actually direct things, and they will need to be able to review and amend code.

In such a scenario, then education takes over the role of 'doing stuff humans don't have to do anymore, but still need to know how to do it'. Like how math education starts by banning calculators, then as the education advances increasingly advanced calculators and computer software are allowed to handle the tedium that was left behind.

Instead of "Software Engineer I", call them 365 Copilot, like everything else. Everyone will be even more confused and maybe they won't notice you're not hiring.

...or you're asking for trouble. AI help desk bots are already making critical mistakes.

Everyone was so busy being amazed that no one paused to think "maybe this is a destructive force that shouldn't escape the lab."

Reap what you sow, suckers.

I'll celebrate AI when it displaces CIOs instead of Regular People.

Up until that day, a pox on it, and all who are pushing it as hard as Pet Rocks.

And then, after all the entry-level coding is doing by LLMs, the older, expert coders will retire/die, and there won't be any coders who've learned enough to replace them.

the fucking point of the technology, dude

As per standard, I haven't read the linked article but I foresee problems with the proposal, namely that a) juniors simply won't get employed, so there won't be anyone for seniors to mentor and b) senior devs won't have free time to mentor anyone when AI has turned dev work into a production line (and execs are trying to squeeze every last drop out of their resources). Much like with manual trades, there has been massive underinvestment in training since companies want skilled personnel without the expense

Execs are significantly easier to replace and going by M$ contemporary track record, it can only bring improvements.

Crocodile tears from MS.

Us oldtimers will be fine. Somebody has to prompt the AI. It isn't going to write code for the heck of it. Somebody has to validate and fix what it wrote. I've had to do that for Junior Developers for half of my career or more. I'd prompt a Junior, correct their work, and amplify my productivity. The problem is in the past I got both working code at a greater volume than I could produce alone AND a Mid Level and ultimately Senior engineer as a side effect of doing this. With AI all I get is code.

Around 2022, there were a lot of companies that were focused on teaching children how to write code. Fast forward to now. A lot of them are gone.

The problem is that younger people see Gen Z, and the fact that there are a ton of coders, arguably an entire generation of people not just out of work, but completely out a career, just like the 2000s. If you come in with coding experience, might as well not bother. Then they see the fact that any meaningful job was taken by cheap foreign labor, while politici

Obviously. If the state of things and the current rate of change are anything to go by, entry level coding jobs aren't the only jobs to "worry" about.

When the goal of all industries becomes simply making the stock value grow, and you build mechanisms to make this as 'efficient' as possible, you can't be suprised if the process inbetween i.e. the actual work becomes meaningless.

If anything, "AI" and all the hullabuloo around it has stripped the romance and sense of identity from coding and IT jobs in general--at least for me. As with any skill or craft, there is a joy in the process towards skill acquisition and mastery; watching positive change towards s

At least that is what all the business "strategy" out there says. Probably an excellent time to get into coding professionally in a few years.

The real problem isn't "AI" it's business leaders using it as an excuse to "restructure". There's always been a less expensive option: outsource/off shore/juniors, the issue is when the organisation chooses that one over in-house experience/quality.