Trump Directs US Government To Prepare Release of Files on Aliens and UFOs (bbc.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/02/20/0450230/trump-directs-us-government-to-prepare-release-of-files-on-aliens-and-ufos
- Source link: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g57gqqln1o
> Trump made the declaration in a post on Truth Social, after he accused Barack Obama earlier in the day of revealing classified information when the former president said "aliens are real" on a podcast last week. "He's not supposed to be doing that," Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One, adding: "He made a big mistake."
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> Asked if he also thinks aliens are real, Trump answered: "Well, I don't know if they're real or not." Former US President Obama told podcast host Brian Tyler Cohen that he thinks aliens are real in an interview released last Saturday. "They're real, but I haven't seen them, and they're not being kept in Area 51," Obama said. "There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and they hid it from the president of the United States."
[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g57gqqln1o
Obvious distraction is obvious (Score:4, Funny)
The Epstein Regime will soon be over hopefully.
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Waiting for the dictator to die out is often a long and windy road. Better act now. Vote.
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What dictator?
Wait, then what were the Epstein files all about? (Score:4, Funny)
Isn't that what the Epstein files were all about? Beings so rich and powerful they don't exhibit typical human behaviors. I'm sure there was probing involved.
No, nothing about science is a religion (Score:5, Informative)
A religion takes a collection of sacred writings as its inerrant source of facts. Science doesn't do that.
Science takes observations as facts, and builds testable, falsifiable models, theories, or laws from them. Whether a model, theory, or law survives depends on whether it can make accurate predictions or explanations of other observations. If it can't, then it is discarded. No faith or belief involved.
Now, scientists do form hunches and opinions, including on whether extraterrestrial life exists. They may engage in arguments about what contitutes possible evidence for it, and debate how and where such life could be found. But scientists are hard to convince, especially about something as extraordinary as the detection of extraterrestrial life. What would it take to convince them? As Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims demand extraordianry evidence." Scientists would temper their conviction of something by the strength or weakness of the evidence. They wouldn't just take something on "faith."
That said, there are many scientists who are religious. But they don't apply religious thinking when they're in their labs. They save that for their churches, temples, synagogues, mosques, and so on. They can keep those two parts of their lives separated.
And I give psychology a break here. Statistical variance in their data is typically much larger than in the physical sciences. The work psychologists do is worth doing, even though they cannot arrive at conclusions that are as precise. But they are still governed by evidence, just like other scientists.
Re:Nah - too narrow a definition of religion (Score:4, Informative)
"Overall evolution is running out of explanation for the ever larger facts that are challenging its claims. The most obvious of these are the irreducible complexity of many biological mechanisms that make their spontaneous emergence an unreasonably unlikely event; a lot of the time the evolutionist position comes down to: 'of course it must have been evolution because I refuse to consider the alternative'. THAT is a faith statement ;)"
Ah, yet another variation on: gee, everything is sooooo complex, I don't understand it, therefore God. Grow up, grasshopper. There is no credible alternative to "evolution". God is not a credible alternative. Ever see him? Has he ever said squat to you? Can we test him for observations? No, no, and no.
"the irreducible complexity of many biological mechanisms that make their spontaneous emergence an unreasonably unlikely event;"
The irreducible complexity argument is right out of Intelligent Design, i.e., create a strawman and then declare him real. "spontaneous emergence", yep, and you understand nothing about evolution if that is what you think. "unreasonably unlikely event", Oh? So it is unfathomable to you so it must not have happened?
Try this, go to your bank and demand money because you cannot understand why they just don't just hand you a bag of it.
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> A religion takes a collection of sacred writings as its inerrant source of facts. Science doesn't do that.
* hears the Scientologist snort in the back *
Riiiight. /s
A “church” in America, has been reduced to mean that place where tax evaders go to get corruptly rich and pretend it’s not a sin by abusing “religion” by any means necessary. See Scientology’s path from science fiction to tax-free enlightenment as painful evidence.
Science is now worse. (Score:2)
> A religion takes a collection of sacred writings as its inerrant source of facts. Science doesn't do that.
> Science takes observations as facts, and builds testable, falsifiable models, theories, or laws from them..
..and then takes all those factual results and runs it through the religion of politics, to ensure whatever sacred (most profitable/beneficial) outcome the sponsors want to see, comes to fruition.
Yes. We know scientists should know better. That’s what makes this worse. We should have not allowed the infection of the religion of politics to infect science. But it wouldn’t be very scientific to pretend this isn’t how “science” is often done today. A for accurate effort. C
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While that's how it is supposed to work, you do have to be careful with people abusing science for their own ends.
The classic example is scientific racism. It started centuries ago, as a way to justify slavery by "scientifically" proving that white people were superior and black people were simply meant to be dominated and controlled. More recently we have had things like The Bell Curve, which was arguing that some races are more intelligent than others, based on obviously flawed but "scientific" methodolog
Seems pretty obvious (Score:5, Insightful)
With the arrest of ex-Prince Andrew, Trump is getting even more nervous and trying to deflect attention from the Epstein files.
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He really needs to distract the conspiracy crowd. They're not exactly a huge voting Demo but with how close elections are they are enough to make or break him. I don't think he needs to fear anything but I think he still wants a third term. And he will need the kooks to get it
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Sadly I doubt that the Andrew thing will go very far. He might get a slap on the wrist. They are only looking at if he gave Epstein sensitive information as part of his job as ambassador. While it seems likely that he gave out the information in exchange for access to girls to rape, or because Epstein was blackmailing him, the chances of anything that harms Trump coming out of this are low.
Anything to avoid the Epstein files. (Score:5, Insightful)
"Quick! Look! Aliens are real and Obama broke the law for saying so! Just stop looking at the Epstein files!" - The US Pedophile in Chief
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So your conspiracy theory is that trump is protecting all the democrats that had deals with epstein.
That probably was the reason biden was doing it, have the protect all the high ranking democrats.
Re:Anything to avoid the Epstein files. (Score:4, Informative)
The theory is that he's willing to protect the democrats in the files if it helps him and his cronies in getting away too.
But the very obviously selecting redacting of the files still speaks volumes about how the government is trying to shift the focus to anyone but their friends.
Like how Bill Barr, who closed the Epstein "suicide" investigation within days, is starting to pop up in documents at an alarming rate... For every democrat-aligned person in there, there's a dozen Repubs.
Just release it all. Nail everyone who's implicated in wrongdoing. Stop trying to distract from what is a way bigger scandal than Watergate.
Guys literally only want one thing (Score:4, Insightful)
It's the Epstein files.
and is the REAL JFK killer in the files as well? (Score:4, Funny)
and is the REAL JFK killer in the files as well?
Vote that up... (Score:2)
Why do I never have mod points when I REALLY need them!?
I can't wait- (Score:5, Funny)
-till a badly redacted file shows Trump is directly connected to the aliens beaming thoughts into our brains.
Mod the Government "Off-Topic" (Score:3)
Whether it be the Epstein files, JFK, or aliens, very little of the news we hear these days is actually about governing the country.
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The last thing anybody wants is Donald Trump governing the country. Every time he does anything the price of everything shoots up and another quarter million get laid off.
The best we can hope for is to tie him up until after the midterms. If we are really lucky he won't start world War 3. And keep in mind he threatened to invade Greenland so I'm not exaggerating for affect here
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> Whether it be the Epstein files, JFK, or aliens, very little of the news we hear these days is actually about governing the country.
Ya, but Trump, his family and friends are making a LOT of money off this gig ... /s
> It's good to be the king.
> -- Mel Brooks as King Louis XVI in [1]History of the World, Part I [wikipedia.org]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_World,_Part_I
Hmm (Score:2)
If somehow this isn't a distraction and he actually intends to release files with meaningful data rather than heavily redacted ambiguous fluff, he is seriously risking being JFK'd.
The real reason (Score:2)
Trump heard about the jailbird prince and REALLY needs a distraction from the Epstein files.
Well, sure ... (Score:3)
> Trump Directs US Government To Prepare Release of Files on Aliens and UFOs
That'll make it easier to deport them. /s
Obama was just talking about Zuckerberg (Score:2)
EOL
Talk about illegal aliens! (Score:2)
Will they send SPICE (Space ICE) after them?
The man is his own caricature. (Score:3)
Whatever you suspect his motives to be at any given time... yeah. That's exactly what they are. Want to take the heat off one conspiracy? Throw the red meat of another to those same wolves. There's no subtlety or nuance to the mechanism. No deft sleight of hand or misdirection. Like his " I know you are but what am I?" approach, or the reliable way he accuses others of doing exactly what he is guilty of, the man's actions and defenses come straight out of the schoolyard.
It's actually one of his more endearing qualities - a kind of backhanded honesty in a way.
There's tons and tons of evidence, no end of it (Score:1)
I won't bother listing the books, because most people here and elsewhere have already made up their own minds.
I offered to bet on the issue, but nobody has the balls to back up their lack of convictions.
Countless airforce pilots are among the many who've witnessed UFOs, and sometimes seen bodies.
Ok, I'll wait for the usual comments dismissing me as ... let me see ... a ... conspiracy theorist.
I don't mind. Next year is the most likely for Open Contact to be announced. We'll see.
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The key letter in UFO is U. Whoever saw it or took a picture of it etc cannot identify it and doesn't know what it is.
That's also why you only see blurry photos, because if the photo was clear it wouldn't be an unidentified object anymore - you would know what it was, it would be something benign and the case would be closed.
World ICE Patrol (Score:2)
If aliens do land on earth, ICE will capture them and place them in containment. They will learn Spanish. They will hate Trump. Shit, this could be a Netflix movie. Never mind.
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I think Obama is trolling the Pedophile in Chief. Later Obama can state "It doesn't take much to get the Trump hooked on the latest conspiracy theory. I mentioned aliens to see if he would take the bait and he did. Cognitive decline affects us all."
Epstein Aliens ? (Score:4, Insightful)
There are probably many illegal aliens in the Epstein Files, but the criminals are the oligarchs.
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His clarification is basically that the universe is too big for there not to be other lifeforms out there.