Instagram Boss Says 16 Hours of Daily Use Is Not Addiction (bbc.com)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/26/02/16/1849255/instagram-boss-says-16-hours-of-daily-use-is-not-addiction
- Source link: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn71mgmzljlo
Mosseri, who has led Instagram for eight years, is the first high-profile tech executive to take the stand. He agreed the platform should do everything in its power to protect young users but said how much use was too much was "a personal thing." The lead plaintiff, identified as K.G.M., reported bullying on Instagram more than 300 times; Mosseri said he had not known. An internal Meta survey of 269,000 users found 60% had experienced bullying in the previous week.
[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn71mgmzljlo
Reads like problematic profits warped his honesty (Score:5, Insightful)
No kid should be on social media for 16 hours a day.
Re:Reads like problematic profits warped his hones (Score:4, Insightful)
No kid should be on social media. Period.
Besides, isn't addiction something diagnosed by a physician ? I would testify in court i would not venture in giving actual medical diagnostics. I would use other words.
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> "No kid should be on social media. Period."
No kid should be on an unrestricted, internet-connected device without supervision. Period.
Social media is just one of many potentially bad things on the internet.
Re:Reads like problematic profits warped his hones (Score:4, Insightful)
No adult should be, either. About the only thing anybody should be doing 16 hours a day is breathing.
Re: Reads like problematic profits warped his hone (Score:4, Funny)
Preferably 24 his a day...
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Who even has the time anymore?
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No one should be on anything for 16 hours a day unless it's oxygen or a heart-lung machine.
He's only (Score:3)
mmmooOOOOOstly dead
Not interefering with sleep (Score:3)
As long as the kid can get 8 hours of sleep, it is totally OK if they spend every waking moment on the social media platform he runs..
I wonder - if it was 20 hours a day, would this idiot still think it wasn't an addiction.
Semantics (Score:3)
Don't think of this as prison, but as an extended silent retreat.
Does dude know (Score:3)
that there are only 24 hours in a day?
Of course it's not an addition... (Score:3)
That's a goal!
- this guy, probably
Bullshit (Score:5, Insightful)
Muthahfuckah, if you spend TWO THIRDS of your waking time doing a single thing, YOU'RE ADDICTED!
Doesn't matter if it's sports, working out, gardening, watching TV, stroking your micro-dick, or browsing InstaShit, spending 16 hours per day on one thing is one of THE most obvious signs of addiction I can think of. And I bet this teenager would display genuine withdrawal symptoms if separated from their phone.
Re: Bullshit (Score:2)
Bingo. If the behavior is compulsive to such a degree that it prevents other normal behavior, such as forming normal relationships or even one's own hygiene, then that's addiction. And pretty damn severe addiction in this case.
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> Time alone doesn't prove or disprove addiction, even in a hypothetical extreme case.
indeed, nothing really does. there is no clear cut definition of addiction, it's a subjective judgement depending on the perceived harms of the consequences. to some they seem bloody obvious, to some they're barely perceptible.
> but representing the question as something that he can reasonably say "Yes"
dialectic. they were trying to corner him to admit something that is likely true and would harm his interests, but they overdid it in terms that carry maximum severity but cannot be proven, so he weaseled out. rather easily, actually: he threw it back by escalating it to "it's not cli
He's right! That doesn't make it better though. (Score:4, Insightful)
That's Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD), not addiction. It's the same thing that makes casinos profitable. Addiction involves chemically moving your homeostasis to the point where your "optimal state," your ability to function, requires the thing you're addicted to. You go through physical withdrawal if you stop. Like, you'll need direct hospital care for withdrawal, sometimes. There are even legal medications that you have to taper off of or you're in the hospital.
There are so many things that get called addiction, but it's all OCD. As with any genetic condition, some have it worse than others.
And don't tell me about endorphins. That's part of your natural brain chemistry. As is adrenaline, cortisol, and neurotransmitter imbalances. With OCD, you have a chemical imbalance, but they're not foreign substances. Your genes are predisposed to something that could be good, but could also cause you harm. It's something that can be leveraged by bad actors, but it's already there, waiting to go. It is part of your homeostatic condition already. You'll have to put yourself out of homeostasis to deal with it, which is why in severe cases it's medicated.
When Zuck manages your dopamine hits, he's using psychologists to figure out how to optimize the brain chemistry of people who are predisposed to obsessive behavior for his own ends. He's not a drug dealer using chemists to amp up the speed and intensity of dependency.
Just put away the fucking phone. There will be no significant withdrawal other than an eerie amount of silence. It'll be like turning on a light once you realize how benighted your life has become. If you need an obsession, get obsessed with exercise or something else of actual value to your life. If you have severe OCD and can't do that, get psychiatric care. There are plenty of medications to relieve the imbalance.
designed for addiction (Score:3)
Remove the infinite scroll from your website. You know damn well it is there as a psychological trap to boost your user "engagement"
More a compulsion than an addiction (Score:2)
I suspect users aren't trying to achieve a rush from using it, if so it's compulsive behaviour more than an addiction.
breathing (Score:2)
Heck you breath 24 hours a day. You can breathe and Insta at the same time!
Tobacco companies said the same thing, yup (Score:1)
[1]1994 - Tobacco Company CEOs Testify Before Congress [byui.edu]
[1] https://video.byui.edu/media/t/1_c09sobkg
Sounds like (Score:1)
Alcoholic reasoning. Im not addicted! I can quit any time!
Sounds like... (Score:5, Funny)
He must've attended that Zuckerberg weekend seminar.
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
Mod parent Funny? But sometimes I think it would be nice if Slashdot had a simple upvote option for the masses of unmoderating...