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OpenAI Claims DeepSeek Distilled US Models To Gain an Edge (bloomberg.com)

(Friday February 13, 2026 @11:30AM (msmash) from the how-about-that dept.)


An anonymous reader shares a report:

> OpenAI has warned US lawmakers that its Chinese rival DeepSeek is [1]using unfair and increasingly sophisticated methods to extract results from leading US AI models to train the next generation of its breakthrough R1 chatbot, according to a memo reviewed by Bloomberg News.

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> In [2]the memo , sent Thursday to the House Select Committee on China, OpenAI said that DeepSeek had used so-called distillation techniques as part of "ongoing efforts to free-ride on the capabilities developed by OpenAI and other US frontier labs." The company said it had detected "new, obfuscated methods" designed to evade OpenAI's defenses against misuse of its models' output.

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> OpenAI began privately raising concerns about the practice shortly after the R1 model's release last year, when it opened a probe with partner Microsoft Corp. into whether DeepSeek had obtained its data in an unauthorized manner, Bloomberg previously reported. In distillation, one AI model relies on the output of another for training purposes to develop similar capabilities.

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> Distillation, largely tied to China and occasionally Russia, has persisted and become more sophisticated despite attempts to crack down on users who violate OpenAI's terms of service, the company said in its memo, citing activity it has observed on its platform.



[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-02-12/openai-accuses-deepseek-of-distilling-us-models-to-gain-an-edge

[2] https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/rRmql_jJcxb4/v0



Cry me a fucking river (Score:3, Informative)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

Companies worth ridiculous sums of money are complaining about unfair business. Hire some more competent people then.

Unfair? (Score:3)

by Orgasmatron ( 8103 )

What the fuck is unfair? If you don't like how they are using your service, stop them . Cut them off, feed them garbage, get clever and solve the problem.

What are lawmakers going to do about it? Order President Trump to nuke China? More tariffs? Sanctions on Russia?

Said the companies that distilled the internet (Score:5, Informative)

by xack ( 5304745 )

Millions of webmasters have had their servers vandalized by AI companies, and then all the wholesale book destruction. Now they are getting a taste of their own medicine it's not so nice is it.

Next they will be interrogating humans in torture chambers to train their models. I'm calling it now.

Re: (Score:3)

by kencurry ( 471519 )

Note how they use a term "distillation". Like that isn't what they've been doing this whole time lol.

No polite response available. (Score:2)

by nightflameauto ( 6607976 )

Dear OpenAI,

Go fuck yourselves.

For years, individuals, other companies, publishing industries across the board, and user groups have been fed the ever-loving fuck up with you stealing everything that isn't bolted down to train your fucked up vision of a future devoid of work, in a world that doesn't value humans when they don't work. And you and your ilk have proclaimed repeatedly that this is just the way things have to be, that the information belongs to you if it exists because you can access it. That th

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