Carmakers Rush To Remove Chinese Code Under New US Rules (msn.com)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/26/02/09/0030214/carmakers-rush-to-remove-chinese-code-under-new-us-rules
- Source link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-car-industry-is-racing-to-replace-chinese-code/ar-AA1VMPmy
> Modern cars are packed with internet-connected widgets, many of them containing Chinese technology. Now, the car industry is scrambling to root out that tech ahead of a looming deadline, a test case for America's ability to [2]decouple from Chinese supply chains . New U.S. rules will soon ban Chinese software in vehicle systems that connect to the cloud, part of an effort to prevent cameras, microphones and GPS tracking in cars from being exploited by foreign adversaries.
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> The move is "one of the most consequential and complex auto regulations in decades," according to Hilary Cain, head of policy at trade group the Alliance for Automotive Innovation. "It requires a deep examination of supply chains and aggressive compliance timelines."
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> Carmakers will need to attest to the U.S. government that, as of March 17, core elements of their products don't contain code that was written in China or by a Chinese company. The rule also covers software for advanced autonomous driving and will be extended to connectivity hardware starting in 2029. Connected cars made by Chinese or China-controlled companies are also banned, wherever their software comes from...
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> The Commerce Department's Bureau of Industry and Security, which [3]introduced the connected-vehicle rule , is also allowing the use of Chinese code that is transferred to a non-Chinese entity before March 17. That carve-out has sparked a rush of corporate restructuring, according to Matt Wyckhouse, chief executive of cybersecurity firm Finite State. Global suppliers are relocating China-based software teams, while Chinese companies are seeking new owners for operations in the West.
Thanks to long-time Slashdot reader [4]schwit1 for sharing the article.
[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-car-industry-is-racing-to-replace-chinese-code/ar-AA1VMPmy
[2] https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/the-american-and-chinese-economies-are-hurtling-toward-a-messy-divorce/ar-AA1VGV6i
[3] https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/u-s-to-ban-chinese-russian-components-in-connected-vehicles-ab030036
[4] https://www.slashdot.org/~schwit1
Canâ(TM)t the Chinese just buy all the info a (Score:2)
Maybe this is less about security and more about who gets paid?
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no the software will be written by an america company who out sources it to the same people who they took it form.
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Clearly. As this is totally unworkable, anybody needs to throw money at the orange rapist to get an exception.
Re: Canâ(TM)t the Chinese just buy all the in (Score:1)
I don't see any restriction from say Japanese, Korean or European vendors. Who, specifically, do you believe is getting paid?
Honestly I see exactly the concern with this: Always available cameras with an always eye level 360 degree view high resolution camera that likely also provides distance measurement. Have them ubiquitous everywhere, and if you're a spy agency, you've got a fantastic surveillance tool. Especially great for blackmail.
The Chinese government is already well known to establish an illegal p
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It's to keep the populace busy while they're robbed blind by the ruling class. That and Epstein.
Europeans should check how American are their cars (Score:2, Interesting)
Right? Make sure that there's no American code. Make sure everything is open source if used. After all it seems that all the cars that have stopped working so far have been American cars, that have been remotely disabled, etc.
Re: Europeans should check how American are their (Score:2)
The trumpistani cars that sell in Europe are either cheap, EU made utilitarian models or individual imports of "muscle car" monstrocities for the occasional connoisseur of stupid waste.
Why would you buy junk that breaks often, guzzles gas and destroys the environment when you can actually have a much nicer European, Japanese or Korean car?
Plenty Would Take that Trade-Off . . . . (Score:2)
> New U.S. rules will soon ban Chinese software in vehicle systems that connect to the cloud
"Cool, disconnect my car completely then."
. . . but of course, this decision will be made by the real owners of the car, not the guy who merely "bought" it.
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I had to disassemble dash to get to a data module to remove cell modem. Even then, I had to do a lot of research to make sure I wouldn't lose too much functionality, because car manufacturers disable features out of spite. In my case if the car does not connect for 3 months they disable KEY FOB REMOTE START. Toyota are fucking cunts, no other way to say that.
Connected cars are a plauge (Score:2)
I can understand self-driving cars needing to be connected, but for all other cases it is simple greed and laziness. Greed is because they want to nickle and dime you with subscriptions and then sell your data on top of that. Laziness is because most automotive things can be made work without connection, but you can't release and patch later unless you can push that remotely.
If they can't do this; might as well pack up. (Score:2)
I'm not desperately impressed by xenophobic analogs to the privacy policies we really need regardless of the nominal HQ of whoever is hoovering up the data; but this seems like a situation where, if the US techbros can't hack it, they might as well just call it a day and go home. We've definitely had years, at least a decade and probably plural decades, of US 'tech' being diverted to software faff vs. the sort of hardware and relatively low-level work that once put the 'silicon' in 'silicon valley' before i
Re:Corrected title (Score:4, Informative)
This isn't about the ethnicity, it's about geopolitics and the different goals of our government and theirs. That said, I question the value of that when half our electronics are manufactured there and can have hardware level spying already there.
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Compared to the US government, I'm far less concerned about what China does with my data. The Chinese government can't send masked secret police to my home to abduct me.
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Sooner or later we'll have geopolitically aligned software. The Israeli pager attack showed how dangerous it is to not have a friendly superpower produce your electronics. The same problem exists in software, perhaps to an even greater degree.
In that world I expect open source to win, because that's the only way to create trustworthy software while avoiding doing a huge amount of duplicate work.
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More of this, please. The ongoing dilution of "racist" to the point of parody is improving our world.
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"Someone once observed to me that my attitudes towards people I've never met were unfounded, and I've since spent my entire life orbiting the memory of this unjustified event"
It's sort of funny how often people with extremely niche perspectives consider them to be universal but suppressed. I'd tell you to stop telling on yourself but that ship sailed years ago.
Re: Corrected title (Score:3)
It would racist if the rules said "Chinese engineers," but it says "Chinese companies."
Nothing stops those companies from relocating to say Singapore.