EU Parliament Calls For Detachment From US Tech Giants (heise.de)
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- News link: https://slashdot.org/story/26/01/22/2253207/eu-parliament-calls-for-detachment-from-us-tech-giants
- Source link: https://www.heise.de/en/news/Digital-liberation-EU-Parliament-calls-for-detachment-from-US-tech-giants-11151222.html
> In terms of content, the report focuses on a strategic reorientation of public procurement and infrastructure. The compromise line adopted stipulates that member states can favor European tech providers in strategic sectors to systematically strengthen the technological capacity of the Community. The Greens even called for a stricter regulation here, where the use of products "Made in EU" should become the rule and exceptions would have to be explicitly justified. They also pushed for a definition for cloud infrastructure that provides for full EU jurisdiction without dependencies on third countries.
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> With the decision, the MEPs want to lay the foundation for a European digital public infrastructure based on open standards and interoperability. The principle of Public Money, Public Code is anchored as a strategic foundation to reduce dependence on individual providers. Software specifically developed for administration with tax money should therefore be made available to everyone under free licenses. For financing, the Parliament relies on the expansion of public-private investments. A "European Sovereign Tech Fund" endowed with ten billion euros was discussed beforehand, for example, to specifically build strategic infrastructures that the market does not provide on its own. The shadow rapporteur for the Greens, Alexandra Geese, sees Europe ready to take control of its digital future with the vote. As long as European data is held by US providers subject to laws such as the Cloud Act, security in Europe is not guaranteed.
[1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-10-2025-0107_DE.html
[2] https://www.heise.de/en/news/Digital-liberation-EU-Parliament-calls-for-detachment-from-US-tech-giants-11151222.html
[3] https://publiccode.eu/en/
About Time (Score:4, Interesting)
It's about time that we sought to disentangle ourselves from an unstable and unreliable actor, especially when the US administration has shown itself willing to pressure US companies to publish those that Trump considers not to be subservient enough. 2016 should have been a warning for Europe. 2026 is better than nothing.
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> This is a spectacular idea. Europe needs to go its own way into oblivion without any further US support.
Did you get your Trump phone yet?
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Clearly Obama's fault.
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Raspberry Pi .... the most sold computer in history. .... around 70 million computers. An UK product following the steps of BBC Micro. And the last 500+ model is a really capable desktop machine, just it is not full of bloated software and/or services not needed.
And RiscV CPUs are becoming very capable also. ARM is from England also, and there is a lot of capable people around all Europe that can design what it is needed. In fact, the machines TSMC uses to create their magical chips are made in the N
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Also, ASML could just stop selling to US chipmakers... that'd get some attention.
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It will. In a few 100 years. Maybe.
Translation: (Score:2)
"Avoid OrangeWare!"
We are now a fucking pariah. The Iraq war also made us a pariah, but not in the commercial sense. Donnie just had to be the strongly top-most pariah ever seen in USA history, believe me!
Our Constitution strongly needs to shore up checks & balances on the Prez. Amendments could pass if GOP is embarrassed enough after Don's reign to try to patch relations with the world & voters; then Congress could get the 2/3 votes needed. Fairly unlikely, but not unrealistic.
Re: Go for it. (Score:4, Insightful)
Lol, when some ruzzkies try to justify bombing Ukraine, they say "hey, Ukraine, you said you wanted to get rid of Soviet inheritance, now we're doing it for you", confusing on purpose the "Soviet inheritance" of the NKVD, Golodomor, totalitarian oppression and the persecution of the 50s and the zastoy era to mean the things Ukrainians built there themselves.
Just like them, you yap about "returning" shit to the us without considering even for a moment that the android is to a considerable extent Linux, a "product" of Finland, that most of the hardware is manufactured in Asia on machinery made in Holland, etc. and that your attempt to show the supposed untenability of the EP actually shows how dumb your government is.
Not very smart, your maga lot, but so very Soviet.
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Sounds great, mate.
If Europe wants to release a decent Linux phone free from the colonial oppression of US tech giants then sign me up and ship to Australia. :)
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I don't use anything from Microsoft, Facebook, Instagram or Apple. No Amazon, Netflix, Paypal or eBay accounts. I do have an Android phone, alas, but I'm not really dependent on Google for anything. I have a few offline games and other than that, it's just texting and calls. My next phone will be an open-source one.
As for email and calendar, I am [1]de-Googled [skoll.ca]. Basically, all the big American tech firms could disappear tomorrow and my personal computing environment wouldn't notice. (There'd be worldwid
[1] https://dianne.skoll.ca/writings/de-googling-my-life/
Cloud Sovereignty (Score:2)
There is a big concern that American companies [1]cannot protect your data [nextcloud.com] in the cloud from the American government. Tech Sovereignty is all about being in total control of your technology and data.
[1] https://nextcloud.com/blog/big-techs-sovereign-cloud-promises-just-collapsed-in-their-own-words/
Not to mention... (Score:2)
that the most prominent and outspoken u.s. tech ceo has endorsed the overthrow of said parliament.
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Most US tech CEOs have strong antipathy to anything like the EU. Musk, Thiel, Bezos, Ellison, Zuckerberg... they all hate the idea of voters and government actually having a say in anything that doesn't align with their financial interests.
Duh (Score:5, Insightful)
The US government has made its position clear. It's absolute folly for non-US organizations to rely on US tech products or services.
Re: Duh (Score:2)
I see some people saying it'll calm down after trumps out of office they don't seem to realise once the effort has been put into moving off US tech it's unlikely they'll ever come back. Not only the loss of EU customers it's creating competitors funded by government.
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yep even Biden threatened countries that looked to limit foreign tech. While Trump might be more incompetent and clueless in his push, both sides are guilty of abusing their access to world trade and economies.
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Is that before Miller and Rubio invade Greenland?
The damage to the USA's international reputation is humongous - you guys are now a rogue nation.
Saying sorry under President Jasmine would be a start.
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The problem is that it is not actually the crazy one that is the problem. All he did was make the actual problem obvious. Without him, the problem stays and cannot easily be ignored again.
Re: Duh (Score:2)
Agreed. Before this the attempts to move away were purely financial, sometimes a bit of political. Now it's security reasons, a lack of trust. A quick read up seems a lot of the push back was familiarity with the systems. I don't see why they cannot be skinned to remove these frictions.
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Indeed. But many people struggle to move away from something they think they know.