Dumbphone Owners Have Lost Their Minds (wired.com)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/26/01/19/1631233/dumbphone-owners-have-lost-their-minds
- Source link: https://www.wired.com/story/dumbphone-owners-have-literally-lost-their-minds/
"Interference with my phone is like giving me some brain damage," Clark told Wired. He expressed concern about the dumbphone movement, calling it "generally a retrograde step" and warning that as smartphone enmeshment becomes the societal norm, those who opt out risk becoming "effectively disabled within that society." Clark described this as "the creation of a disempowered class."
98% of Americans between 18 and 29 own a smartphone, dropping only to 97% for those aged 30 to 49. Even committed dumbphone users struggle. One user profiled in the piece still carries an "emergency iPhone" for work requirements and admits long-distance friendships have become "nearly impossible to maintain."
[1] https://www.wired.com/story/dumbphone-owners-have-literally-lost-their-minds/
It is the opposite (Score:2)
Relying on an easy and available substitute cripples your mind and makes you dumber.
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It could be in between, freeing your resources up for other mental tasks. Although that seems more likely to require a sweet spot of moderation.
It's pretty funny (Score:3)
This creates a situation where you could use radio interference or DDOS 30 points of IQ out of the population instantly.
What is this? (Score:2)
1% drop in a 19 year age range and you write an entire opinion article about it with an obvious slant towards smart phones?
Why do people care what type of phone others have? Tracking? Missing out on that ad revenue or information gathering?
Slashdot needs a "stupid news" section or "pointless news" section.
Shit post.
what the hell? (Score:3)
"Interference with my phone is like giving me some brain damage," Clark told Wired. He expressed concern about the dumbphone movement, calling it "generally a retrograde step" and warning that as smartphone enmeshment becomes the societal norm, those who opt out risk becoming "effectively disabled within that society." Clark described this as "the creation of a disempowered class."
Well, if I wondered what the stupidest thing I'd read on the internet today was going to be, I'm pretty sure now.
Some nobody "philosopher" pulls some gestalt-mind-theory out of his ass about smartphones making us part of a meta-consciousness (mainly because he apparently has connection-anxiety) is ridiculous.
Haidt, et al, are doing really important, interesting, compelling work showing that for all the utility smartphones provide, devices like this are doing literal cognitive and emotional damage to young people. A vast array of negative social markers from loneliness, depression, anxiety, and suicide all SURGING coincidental with widespread access to smart phones.
Certainly young people are more vulnerable, but to suggest older people aren't being harmed in similar (but likely less deformative) ways would be unlikely.
Smart phones are FANTASTICALLY USEFUL. No question. But I can speak for myself that a good chunk the broad breadth of knowledge I used to have in my mind I now have to look up (that could be senility, too). Who even knows their kids phone numbers anymore?
To insist that people who want to get off the smartphone ecosystem are somehow impaired or dysfunctional itself flies in the face of a growing body of research the other way 'round.
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My thoughts exactly. Interference with his iPhone is giving him brain damage because he's never learned (or has forgotten) how to deal with the world without it.
It's not just that he can't do the things the phone explicitly made possible, eg. talking to people halfway around the world in effectively real time. He probably can't navigate without his Google Maps, can't put numbers together in his head, can't cook up a simple meal from memory of how to do it. These are things people did just fine before we had
This is correct (Score:2)
I remember back in 2005 (and before that as well) about 2 years before the iPhone launched .. people were getting +5 Insightful for posts that said we need to have a separate device for everything and smartphones are a dumb idea without utilizing any brain cells thinking that tech would get better/improve. And this was SLASHDOT .. supposedly tech people,. The same fools who today argue against full-self driving cars, AI, robotics, and satellite broadband services.
Reference .. against smartphones:
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[1] https://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=163341&cid=13644435
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I think it's hard to argue against those posts after seeing what smartphones actually brought us.
"Nearly possible to maintain"...? (Score:3)
> admits long-distance friendships have become "nearly impossible to maintain."
I guess nobody owns those "computer" things anymore...?
Yes, but. (Score:2)
What Clark seems oddly sanguine about is the fact that a smartphone isn't just yours. It has a variety of masters, some you've invited in deliberately and voluntarily, some which were only ever a bargain you felt forced to take; some which are baked in from the factory and effectively unremovable without nontrivial expertise.
The most obvious ones are screaming for your attention and demanding engagement from whatever notifications area your OS of choice (all of 2) provides. The slightly less obvious ones
What drivel (Score:2)
I really don't know where to begin to respond to this nonsensical article. But somehow, I managed to live about 75% of my life without a smart phone (and indeed, probably 60% without a mobile phone) and my cognitive abilities are OK.
There is one kernel of truth in the article, though... it's getting harder and harder not to have a smart phone. For example, if you want to see a concert, a lot of venues require you to have the Ticketmaster app for those annoying mobile tickets with the moving blue bar. Th
Except smart phone owners have lost their minds (Score:1)
This is an interesting perspective considering how many people are taking "wellness breaks" away from these devices, and mental health issues have come up due to the obsession with using these devices.
What's next, saying I'm antisocial for maintaining personal relationships outside of "social media" and calling it harmful to myself because I'm not a doomscroller?
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It's a mixed blessing. On the one hand, I am happy to have a couple of apps that I regularly use at my fingertips: Home Assistant, banking apps, parking apps, apps for ordering a cab (Uber), email and calendar: these objectively make my life better, easier, while not impinging on my attention all the time. On the other hand, when I carry a smart phone, I do find myself checking news and other things whenever I have some downtime, even though I am not that active on social media. It truly is something of