Amazon Threatens 'Drastic Action' After Saks Bankruptcy (cnbc.com)
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- News link: https://slashdot.org/story/26/01/15/176246/amazon-threatens-drastic-action-after-saks-bankruptcy
- Source link: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/15/amazon-says-saks-investment-is-worthless-after-bankruptcy.html
> When Saks acquired Neiman Marcus for $2.7 billion in December 2024, Amazon invested $475 million into the venture on the grounds the retailer would start selling its products on Amazon's website and the tech company would offer technology and logistics expertise.
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> "That equity investment is now presumptively worthless," Amazon's attorneys wrote in a Wednesday filing, hours after Saks filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. "Saks continuously failed to meet its budgets, burned through hundreds of millions of dollars in less than a year, and ran up additional hundreds of millions of dollars in unpaid invoices owed to its retail partners."
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> As part of the deal, Saks launched a branded "Saks at Amazon" storefront on the e-commerce company's website featuring a range of luxury fashion and beauty items. It also agreed to pay a referral fee for Saks-branded goods sold on the platform, guaranteeing at least $900 million in payments to Amazon over eight years.
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/15/amazon-says-saks-investment-is-worthless-after-bankruptcy.html
Oh NO! (Score:5, Funny)
A 2.5 trillion dollar company is losing 0.02% of it's value because of a bad investment. Somebody DO SOMETHING.
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Amazon's presence has been an existential threat to other retailers, both online and with brick-and-mortar stores. Many of them have gone bankrupt.
Saks thought they could still make it work, and acquired Neiman Marcus, ironically with a little help from Amazon. And now Saks has discovered they can't make it work after all.
It's interesting to speculate whether Amazon is a major contributor to the failure here. And their complaints about it sound like a very tiny violin.
Amazon knew it was coming (Score:4, Informative)
Only a fool (and Amazon exec's are not fools) did not see the bankruptcy coming in recent times (the WSJ has had articles about Saks Globals situation for a while now). Once the bankruptcy was filed, they, like a lot of other unsecured creditors, now need to make their case to the judge as to what they might actually get (they all want it all back, of course, which seems unlikely, but you have to ask).
Is this a real bankruptcy? (Score:1)
Is this a real bankruptcy (company out of business, assets sold off to pay the creditors some percentage of what they owe) or one of the relatively common fake bankruptcies where they file paperwork to say "we're bankrupt", the court stamps it approval and all of the creditors get nothing or very little, then the company just carries on doing whatever it was doing before?
Re:Is this a real bankruptcy? (Score:4, Informative)
It's Chapter 11, which is (I suppose) not a "real" bankruptcy, in that the company's debt obligations are restructured, and it gets to stay in business.
Perhaps a "real" bankruptcy would be Chapter 8, where everything gets liquidated to pay creditors and the lights get turned off.
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> Perhaps a "real" bankruptcy would be Chapter 8, where everything gets liquidated to pay creditors and the lights get turned off.
Chapter 7 is liquidation (there is no actual Chapter 8).
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You're right. Sorry for the misinformation.
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No such thing as Chapter 8. You're describing Chapter 7
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Yes, already addressed by CommunityMember above. My bad.
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My bad too. I preopen a lot of Slashdot tabs so I don't see if someone else may have made the same reply 20minutes before I get to the tab :-)
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No biggie. That has happened to me many times too.
Amazon can't even get Whole Foods right (Score:5, Interesting)
To this day, Amazon has not been able to integrate Whole Foods into the Amazon family. Their internal systems are still Whole Foods, not Amazon. That was 7.5 years ago. Here's how bad things are.
I do a search for the closest Whole Foods to where I live. I select the link to the store site. My local store shows somewhere in another state. I have to manually select my closest store and Make It My Store even though I selected the link to my closest store.
After doing all of the above, I search for a product while I'm at work. It shows available. I go home, a few miles from my work, and perform the exact same steps. The product shows out of stock. Not just on one day, but over multiple days this scenario persists.
On top of all that, the product I'm looking for is constantly out of stock (once I've verified things are working correctly).
I'm not sure what "technology and logistics expertise" Amazon was offering Saks, but if they can't get their own shit together on their own store, Saks owes them nothing.
Re: Amazon can't even get Whole Foods right (Score:2)
The culprit for your "wrong store" problem might be 'ZIP code search', vs 'geocoded address search'.
The largest ZIP code in the US is bigger than Maryland, and 'center of nearest ZIP code' can be a blunt instrument.
Hard to say if that kind of failure is poor shop site design, bad database design, or a fallback from refusing to provide your location (maybe a long time ago and remembered/persisted).
Could easily be something else, of course. Amazon certainly is one of the most mature shippers re: GIS. Whole Fo
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The culprit for your "wrong store" problem might be 'ZIP code search', vs 'geocoded address search'.
It shouldn't matter. If I select my closest store the least that should be done is select the same city as the store, not several states away from me.
This same scenario happens with Lowes. For some inexplicable reason, it chooses a different state as my default until I change to the store which is literally, in the truest sense of the word, five miles from me.
Businesses need to stop thinking.
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> Businesses need to stop thinking. Only do what the potential customer tells them.
This. When I choose a store, that is my store. If I choose a different store, that is my new store. If you can't figure out how to permanently store which store I chose, you shouldn't be building websites.
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> They want you to sign up and sign in.
I *am* signed in. The Lowe's website STILL does this. Also, it annoying logs me out every few weeks, but that flaw seems independent of losing my store selection, which happens every two or three *days*.
No, this isn't somebody doing this for some dark pattern reason. This is just incompetence, because of at least one of the following:
A grossly inadequate feedback path from end users to the team coupled with inadequate internal testing
Grossly inadequate telemetry to detect user-hostile behavior
Incompeten
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The WF flagship store in Austin is a shitshow. They don't even have fricking PITA BREAD. Anywhere. They only carry "SKUs that perform" and optimize algorithmically rather than using any sort of common sense. And their employees inconsistently have terrible, unprofessional attitudes... I can only guess that Amazon/WF treats them like shit and selectively treats others like princes/ses, or their hiring, training, and company culture suck. As such, I do as little shopping there as possible and go to the very n
Reverse Midas touch (Score:2)
Only exceeded by the likes of Google and Microsoft. But Amazon is catching up.
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But still a long way to catch up to Meta, let alone AOL-Times-Warner...
Duh (Score:2)
What a stupid investment, esp. from a company that strives to disrupt retail.
What is lost? (Score:2)
I took a peek at the Sax store on Amazon. Lots of clothes that were as ugly as they were expensive. I guess I don't understand fashion.
Business Shenanigans (Score:2)
it seems to me as if Amazon has probably done this plenty of times before.
does anyone else think that Amazon is just pissed off that Saks wouldnâ(TM)t spend the money back on Amazon again? Itâ(TM)s the same circular scheme going on in the tech industry, and Amazon was trying to start it with Saks.
Private equity gonna private equity (Score:2)
I guess Amazon is envious they didn't think of ruining other companies fast enough while evading debt first.
Amazon can speak up on money issues (Score:5, Insightful)
But Bezos is silent on the death of democracy, despite owning a newspaper that claims otherwise.
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>> But Bezos is silent on the death of democracy, despite owning a newspaper that claims otherwise.
> The WaPo motto "Democracy Dies in Darkness" does not actually specify whether Bezos (and WaPo) is against darkness when profit is involved.
Read my sig.
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Damn good point. I was just biased in my reading.
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That newspaper announced sometime last year that they'd always be in favor of free markets and capitalism. Maybe they wanted to avoid being blacklisted by Trump, but whatever the reason, you can't hold them to what they were during the Biden years if they've explicitly announced a departure from that
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Free markets are what the name suggests - free! Regulations are the thing that Teddy Roosevelt type Republicans used to support. Not sure there are any now
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I support regulation, markets require and generate them, but that doesn't mean all of the regulations we have are good or should be kept.
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> Republicans and billionaires oppose free markets. Free markets require regulation.
"Free regulated markets" is an oxymoron. Republicans and billionaires love free markets. They oppose regulated ones. Or at least they want regulations that favor their side.
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The power of the government has grown too large when one is forced to practice sycophancy and kiss the ring of the reigning potentate. No matter which political camp you occupy.
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biden didnt ask for ring kissing
this is shit conservatives say to justify their own bad decisions. is that what you're doing friend or are you really gonna stick to the both sides thing despite all evidence to the contrary.
may as well be an antivaxxer too if you want to maintain that level of cognitive dissonance
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No, b'cos that paper was already where he wanted it to be. As well as most other media outlets
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pure weapons grade copium
wapo and NYT and all the other "liberal" media was running negative stories on biden all day long, they couldnt stop talking about his so called senility at every turn
also lest we forget the 2016 wapo column "donald the dove, hillary the hawk" or almost everything maggie haberman wrote, they have and continue to sanwash the admin whenever given the oppurtunity
the idea these outlets are in the bag for democrats is actually republican propaganda and you all slurp it up like trumps ran
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No, he just told everyone they had to enforce DEI policies that got me fired.
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You got fired for being a demonstrable asshole. No DEI required.
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Oh, the WaPo is a total fucking mess now. It was pretty decent before Bozos bought and ruined it, kind of like Nazi Musk and Twitter.
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> But Bezos is silent on the death of democracy, despite owning a newspaper that claims otherwise.
Because there is no "death of democracy". I've heard this hysterical horseshit all my long life. Everytime a Republican wins the White House, it means democracy died. Funny that I heard it for Reagan, both Bushes, and now Trump, and yet we keep having elections and Democrats win the White House sometimes too. "Democracy Died" just means that you threw a tantrum because your candidate didn't win.
It's always same stupid fucking thing: if we don't stop them this time, it's over! Democracy will die! This is the
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Democracies gradually erode before they suddenly collapse. Others in the past who noted the erosion were justified to be alarmed.
Right now, things seem different. I fear there is a "gathering storm" -- to borrow the words of Winston Churchill regarding the prelude to World War II. Trump is openly threatening a NATO nation, and by extension, the Western alliance.
I suspect you and I are old enough to recognize the potential historic parallels that are unfolding now.
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My hope is to be in Hawaii on a farm with established agriculture and a steady, independent water supply before WWIII strikes. I fear I won't make it.
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Reagan and both Bushes took pickaxes to the foundation of Democracy. Trump got the steamshovel. He literally knocked down a wing of the White House so he and his cronies can have nicer parties. He literally sent a mob into the Capitol. Are you congenitally blind or willfully so?
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> Because there is no "death of democracy". I've heard this hysterical horseshit all my long life. Everytime a Republican wins the White House, it means democracy died. Funny that I heard it for Reagan, both Bushes, and now Trump, and yet we keep having elections and Democrats win the White House sometimes too. "Democracy Died" just means that you threw a tantrum because your candidate didn't win.
> It's always same stupid fucking thing: if we don't stop them this time, it's over! Democracy will die! This is the most important election Evarrrr!!! .
> The world keeps spinning. Elections keep happening. You win sometimes and you lose sometimes. You people have become the boy that cried wolf, and no one gives a shit anymore. No one outside of your hysterical sewing circles buys it.
[1]https://www.theguardian.com/us... [theguardian.com]
The FBI raided the home of a Washington Post reporter early on Wednesday in what the newspaper called a “highly unusual and aggressive” move by law enforcement, and press freedom groups condemned as a “tremendous intrusion” by the Trump administration.
Agents descended on the Virginia home of Hannah Natanson as part of an investigation into a government contractor accused of illegally retaining classified government materials.
Wasn't that the exact sam
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/14/fbi-raid-washington-post-hannah-natanson
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I think you agree that Trump actually did have classified government documents, despite his repeated claims that he had returned them all. Whereas we don't know yet whether this reporter had access to anything at all that was classified. We can't tell right now, because [1]the DOJ has sealed the records in the case. [cnn.com] So, stay tuned?
[1] https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/15/media/fbi-hannah-natanson-washington-post-doj-search
Re: Amazon can speak up on money issues (Score:2)
âoeDemocracy is dead because the guy I dislike won the election and is doing exactly what he said he was going to do.â
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> But Bezos is silent on the death of democracy, despite owning a newspaper that claims otherwise.
He donated to and supports the darkness, 'cause it makes him way more $$$ elsewhere.
[1]FBI executes search warrant at Washington Post reporter’s home [washingtonpost.com] [non-paywalled article below]
> The FBI executed a search warrant Wednesday morning at a Washington Post reporter’s home as part of an investigation into a government contractor accused of illegally retaining classified government materials.
There's no indication that the Administration tried other, more usual, avenues, like a subpoena, prior to getting the search warrant.
Some people think this action is just a pretext to harass the Washington Post reporter, Hannah Natanson, and gather information about the numerous current and former federal workers talking t
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/01/14/washington-post-reporter-search/